Ciener 1911 Conv. or Ruger 22/45?

[Boiler_G]

Ok, I want a .22 for some cheap fun and practice. I am considering the Ciener 1911 .22 conversion for my Colt 1991A1, but at $199 (MSRP) why not spend an extra $25-$50 and get a Ruger 22/45?

Having the exact same operation and feel of my Colt using the Ciener conversion would be nice, but another gun specifically made for the .22 has its pros too.

If I am not shooting Bullseye with it, is the Ciener accuracy good enough?

Really, the only thing holding me back is the non-locking back slide after the last round and questions about the actual drop in, no fitting required capability of the Ciener conversion.

Are there any other conversions within this price range that I should consider (Marvel seems way to expensive for what I want to do (plink) ?

How much does the Kimber conversion go for?

Thanks. (sorry if this toppic has been beat to death, I couldn't get to many hits on the search).

 

[444]

The Ciener conversion offers excellent accuracy IF you are shooting Bullseye with it.

I personally would go for the new gun. My Ceiner conversion is very picky about what ammo it wants to run with. Mine will not work with the cheap Wal-Mart bulk ammo which is all I normally buy. I never understood why companies sell .22 ammo in boxes of 50 and 100 instead of 500+ but that is an issue for another thread. Anyway, mine does not run well with any ammo I have tried other than CCI mini-mags. I also don't like the company after dealing with them on the phone. My term for him would not be permitted on this board.

 

[Bob Brown]

My recommendation would be for the Ruger. A little trigger work is all it needs to be an excellent shooter...even for BE competition. I won the PacFlt match using one and Jim Clark won the National Championship at Camp Perry using an old Mk I.
I've only had 2 of those Cieners cross my bench and I'm just not all that impressed with them.
As for the Kimber convesion...pricey, like the Marvel. I have yet to see one but one of my friends has one on order (been 2 months now).
BTW, if you do get a Ruger, I recommend you don't go for the Volquartsen trigger kit. Just get a 'smith to do a trigger job on it using the existing parts. A Clark or Volquartsen trigger would be a desirable accessory because they each have an easily adjusable overtravel stop built-in, but the stock trigger also has one, though it's inconvenient to adjust...to say the least!

Bob

 

[10-Ring]

Of the 2, I like the accuracy & feel of the Ceiner (especially on a well tuned 1911 frame ) more and like the reliability of the Ruger more. I shoo the Ruger more often.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

I'd go for a MARVEL conversion kit rather than the Ciener. Its much more accurate, and while costing maybe $100 more, folks with them say its worth it. (Marvel warrants their units to shoot something obscenely small at 50 yards, like 1/2". Check out Shotgun News or Gun List for their ad. Guys use them in Bullseye as their match guns.)

If you're into the combat-type sports (IPSC, IDPA), the conversion kit gives you the same trigger pull, the same first shot, and you can practice reloads with your match gun -- cheaply.

 

[JoeHatley]

I've got both. They are both fun an accurate. If I had to choose just one, it would be the Ruger.

Why... 'cause a fella just can not have too many guns!!

Joe

 

[Al Thompson]

I've been down this road twice. Once yaers ago with a Colt kit and a couple of years back got a Ciener in trade. Frankly, I much prefer the 2nd pistol. Cost isn't much difference and I never liked changing slides to shoot .22. YMMV

 

[dbracin]

Has anyone tried the Ceiner Compact version?

 

[444]

Mine is for an Officer's Model.

 

[JohnKSa]

Go for the second gun.

The conversion kit is a $200 add on to a gun that probably already cost you $700+.

So, in the name of "cheap" practice, you're putting wear and tear on a gun that ran you over $900.

You could be putting wear and tear on a gun that cost you just over $200 instead...

 

[Greybeard]

Mucho agreement with what 444 sez about Ceiner guy on phone. His 22 conversion kit for my Glock 17 is a BEAUTIFUL peice of engineering and machine work to be such a piece of junk in terms of reliability. :banghead:

 

[Stevie-Ray]

You could spend the real big bucks and get the new Kimber.