Cleaning the tumbling media

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I've got a question, I used to just throw out the dirty tumbling media, and refresh with new, I know I've read here that used laundry sheets will clean the media. My question is how much of the sheet do you put in the vibrator type of tumbler? Also do you cut it up into pieces or use a whole sheet?
 
Strips of paper towel wet with mineral spirits cleans the media even better than drier sheets IME. Run it right in with your brass for a couple loads. Cleans the bowl sides too.
 
I use a fresh sheet every tumble session, this helps to reduce dust.

At some point in time media will often get heavily contaminated with lube, not so bad with Dillon case lube, the spray on stuff, but it still accumulates. BTW, I've endured a bit of criticism for cleaning it, verses just replacing it, but if it's not ground down to tiny little pieces I clean it, then reuse it. I put it in tube socks, wash it in a 5 gal bucket of hot soapy water, rinse it in plain hot water, then hang it from a tree for a day or two to dry completely.

I know I'm gonna get some criticism for this, I always do.

GS
 
Thanks folks for answering my questions, I just this morning started using a full sheet in my tumbler, btw I cut it up into about 12-16 pieces, and it looks like the media is quite a bit cleaner. I don't believe I'll go thru the washing cycle though, but thanks any how.
 
I know I'm gonna get some criticism for this, I always do.
Ain't that the truth.

Before I learned how simple it is to clean corn cob media, I had experimented with different additives. I had even cut up some old leather into strips and put those in my tumbler. I made a post about this experiment, and mostly I received interest and kudos. Talk about cleaning media, and it's like a cultural taboo. Some folks take personal offense to the very idea.
 
I wonder just how much lead dust gets washed out of it. I wear a dust mask and try to stand upwind of the tumbler when I transfer the brass into the sifter. I wasn't always that careful and ended up having an elevated blood level of lead. I used to use my media for a long time, adding media boost to squeeze every last moment of its life. Since then I just pitch it when it stops cleaning well. For the cost of one box of bullets one can get a supply of new media. I buy lizard litter at the pet shop as it is much cheaper than actual reloading media. It cleans my brass fine and I no longer am concerned about getting a brilliant shine on my brass.

I do use dryer sheet strips because it decreases the dust.

just my .02
 
I was under the impression that it is the sharp edges on the cleaning media, that makes it work. Once your media gets dirty, and you clean it with dryer sheets or whatever method, does it still clean and polish your brass?

I'm new to reloading, so not trying to cause a squabble, just trying to learn some of your experiences, and gain some knowledge.
 
I was under the impression that it is the sharp edges on the cleaning media, that makes it work. Once your media gets dirty, and you clean it with dryer sheets or whatever method, does it still clean and polish your brass?

YES
 
Your correct, once the sharp edges are gone the cleaning process is slowed down. Corncob is mainly a polisher since it's soft. Walnut Hulls will clean faster but will not put a polish on the brass. The reason I do a 50/50 mix.

Media is cheap it does not break the bank to replace it once the cleaning process is extended to a point of not doing the job in a reasonable time. But then again if you using pet media your using left over scrap.
 
I wonder just how much lead dust gets washed out of it. I wear a dust mask and try to stand upwind of the tumbler when I transfer the brass into the sifter. I wasn't always that careful and ended up having an elevated blood level of lead. I used to use my media for a long time, adding media boost to squeeze every last moment of its life. Since then I just pitch it when it stops cleaning well. For the cost of one box of bullets one can get a supply of new media. I buy lizard litter at the pet shop as it is much cheaper than actual reloading media. It cleans my brass fine and I no longer am concerned about getting a brilliant shine on my brass.

I do use dryer sheet strips because it decreases the dust.
I am not sure how much lead dust remains embedded in the media vs washed away. But consider, for a second, a dirty rag. It can be contaminated with all sorts of stuff. After you wash it, it is still stained. But w/e is embedded in the rag is largely going to stay there, forever. I don't throw out a shop rag because it's dark. I throw it out when it's finally too stiff and hard to work, anymore. I would rather handle a dark and dirty rag that has just been washed than a new-looking rag that has been used to wipe up lead oxide dust only once.

I was under the impression that it is the sharp edges on the cleaning media, that makes it work.
If you use plain corncob, then the sharp edges certainly help to knock off the carbon deposits. The entire surface of the corn cob actually does the polishing. And the surface does get clogged over time. Washing doesn't remove all the debris. So if you do not use additives in your media, washing won't restore 100% of the cleaning power.

If you use additives to speed things up, the actual surface of the corn cob media isn't as important. Mineral spirits removes the carbon. And polishing compound shines up the cases. Once you clean the media of excessive dust that is clogging up the polish, it works pretty close to new, again. Dryer sheets work fairly well to trap dust (no matter how clean your brass, you will continually accumulate brass dust in your media, along with a little carbon and dirt and powder residue). A quick rinse of the media with water, followed by drying in the sun, works wonders. When you drain off the water, you drain away most of the dust, and you don't need to worry about airborne particles. You don't need to touch or eat or roll around in the dirty media/water naked, unless you really want to. I just use a plastic bag and a few cups or water (usually taken from the bucket of dirty and slightly soapy water I have recently cleaned my brass in*) to clean a tumbler full. Add media, add water, mash the bag for 20 seconds, and squeeze out the excess dirty water. Dump into a tray to dry in the sun. Other folks may wash more throroughly. I rather spend 5 minutes to remove 90% of the dust, than 30-40 minutes to remove 99%. To me, that's the difference of taking 30 minutes to make the media work for another 10-20 loads, vs 5 minutes to make it work for another 9-18 loads.

*Warning. Do not use acidic water to wash media (Lemishine or citric acid, for instance), unless you take extra precautions to not come into contact with the dirty water. Water with a high enough acidity can dissolve lead oxide, and you can more easily absorb it unintentially through your skin. Of course if you are washing cases with lemishine or citric acid, you should hopefully already be aware of this potential hazard when you handle your wash water.
 
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For the OP, the used dryer sheets do not clean the media it only collects the dust given off from the "fines" generated from the media grinding . Sort of like sawdust when sanding.
 
I've washed out walnut media. I got a big plastic container, put a 2X4 under one end and dump in a 1/2 gal of bleach and 1/4 jug of liquid tide. Add water from garden hose with just enough flow to cause the media to move around but not float it out of the lower end. all the black gunk flows over the end. When clean I have a 5 gal bucket with screen wire in the bottom and let it drain for a couple days then move it to the basement to finish dry.
 
Wet tumbling sounds like it's more labor intensive. I predict that many of the folks doing wet tumbling will go back to dry tumbling. I bet wet tumbling will turn out to be something of a passing fad, to some degree. Just like home pc'ing of pistol bullets. That's just where I would put my own chips down, so no need to get upset over my opinion.

There will always be a subset that just needs their brass to be like new. There were some folks using ultrasonic cleaners to clean tiny batches of brass at a time before wet tumbling. And to them, wet tumblers and SS pins are probably a huge improvement.
 
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Wet tumbling sounds like it's more labor intensive. I predict that many of the folks doing wet tumbling will go back to dry tumbling. I bet wet tumbling will turn out to be something of a passing fad, to some degree. Just like home pc'ing of pistol bullets. That's just where I would put my own chips down, so no need to get upset over my opinion.

There will always be a subset that just needs their brass to be like new. There were some folks using ultrasonic cleaners to clean tiny batches of brass at a time before wet tumbling. And to them, wet tumblers and SS pins are probably a huge improvement.
I seem to be one of those who gets caught up in some of the passing fads and gets stuck:) I still powder coat all of my bullets. It takes a lot of time and is probably not necessary for lower pressure round like .38 or .45acp but I like the way they look and I love that they don't gum up my dies etc.

As far as wet tumbling, I just bought the Frankford Arsenal rotary tumbler. I would say that it is a bit more labor involved but it is a double edged sword. I can easily run 3 or 4 times as much brass per load than I could in my dry tumbler and it takes about 1 to 1 1/2 hours to get it looking new so, in that aspect, it is much faster and cleans better. On the other hand, it takes me a lot longer to separate the pins etc. If you are one of those who needs your brass to be like new, it is the only way to go.

As for me, I just can't see going back to dry tumbling. As with any other aspect of the hobby, you do what brings you joy and fun.
 
Why bother ?
That's a really good question. Why not figure out your cost for media, time and effort to clean, and then do a cost:benefit analysis? If you sit down and calculate it all that out, I wonder what you might find?
 
That's a really good question. Why not figure out your cost for media, time and effort to clean, and then do a cost:benefit analysis? If you sit down and calculate it all that out, I wonder what you might find?

Already have and its a waste of time money & resources, even when my time is free.

Guess I'll start washing & pressing my paper money.

But if it sends a thrill up your leg doing it, go for it.
 
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