I'm kinda curious as to what defines a clone(I know that it is more or less self-explanatory , but I hope you'll see my point/issue):
AR15's are made by quite a few companies. I have one from Bushmaster & one from Oly. Now I believe that pretty much all of the AR companies, from Armalite to DPMS, RRA, to Oly, simply make clones. Ok, simple enough. But then what is a non-clone? Would a new Colt AR15 be a "real" AR15 & not a clone?
It just seems to me that the clone issue is less defined as regarding AR15's, as I don't recall ever hearing a [insert any AR15 company here] AR being refered to as a clone specifically unlike HK.
As Colt AR15's, though usually commanding a slightly higher priced, generally do not appear much more desirable than a similar Bushmaster, whereas a real HK53 is far more desired than a Vector clone.
Ditto with AK47's. Anything not made @ Izhmash(ok I'm sure I butchered that name ) is a clone. So it is more or less impossible to buy a real semi-auto AK47, correct?
I'm really not trying to sound like a moron or gun newb in the above paragraphs but more setting up the question for the following:
Lastly, and of most interest is the HK line of rifles, the 9x series, the sp89 & hk53. All of the aformentioned are now rather $, relativly speaking.
Yet the clone option is far more limited than it is for AR's. Of the top of my head I can think of only Special Weapons(iffy quality), Ohio Rapid Fire($$$), and Vector. Is this just b/c the hk weapons have not been on the market for nearly as long a timeframe? Will we see more HK clone companies, as right now there appears to be only 3 choices, with only 1 of them being universally approved of/liked(Vector)?
My biggest question is why does a HK clone seem far less desirable than say a AR or HK clone? Is the HK clone quality just that much worse than the AR quality?
For me it just seems easier to buy another AR "clone" than buy something from Vector, when I could have a real HK if I saved up a little more. Thus the question arrises, are HK clones less desirable simply b/c there is still a sufficient quantity of genuine HK's that are not yet priced out of the reach of most shooters?
I'm mostly interested in the HK clone issue...I think I described my point & question sufficiently.
AR15's are made by quite a few companies. I have one from Bushmaster & one from Oly. Now I believe that pretty much all of the AR companies, from Armalite to DPMS, RRA, to Oly, simply make clones. Ok, simple enough. But then what is a non-clone? Would a new Colt AR15 be a "real" AR15 & not a clone?
It just seems to me that the clone issue is less defined as regarding AR15's, as I don't recall ever hearing a [insert any AR15 company here] AR being refered to as a clone specifically unlike HK.
As Colt AR15's, though usually commanding a slightly higher priced, generally do not appear much more desirable than a similar Bushmaster, whereas a real HK53 is far more desired than a Vector clone.
Ditto with AK47's. Anything not made @ Izhmash(ok I'm sure I butchered that name ) is a clone. So it is more or less impossible to buy a real semi-auto AK47, correct?
I'm really not trying to sound like a moron or gun newb in the above paragraphs but more setting up the question for the following:
Lastly, and of most interest is the HK line of rifles, the 9x series, the sp89 & hk53. All of the aformentioned are now rather $, relativly speaking.
Yet the clone option is far more limited than it is for AR's. Of the top of my head I can think of only Special Weapons(iffy quality), Ohio Rapid Fire($$$), and Vector. Is this just b/c the hk weapons have not been on the market for nearly as long a timeframe? Will we see more HK clone companies, as right now there appears to be only 3 choices, with only 1 of them being universally approved of/liked(Vector)?
My biggest question is why does a HK clone seem far less desirable than say a AR or HK clone? Is the HK clone quality just that much worse than the AR quality?
For me it just seems easier to buy another AR "clone" than buy something from Vector, when I could have a real HK if I saved up a little more. Thus the question arrises, are HK clones less desirable simply b/c there is still a sufficient quantity of genuine HK's that are not yet priced out of the reach of most shooters?
I'm mostly interested in the HK clone issue...I think I described my point & question sufficiently.