CMP Garands
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It just so happens that I am sitting here waiting on the CMP page to load so I can get my trigger back together.
I recently got a Service Grade, Greek, H&R, M1 from the CMP.
To me, it is very satisfying to get one of these rifles, tear it completely down, clean everything, lubricate, replace the springs, and restore the rifle to it's former glory.
I have a USGI Springfield M1 order pending, I should have it the first of next week.
Within a few days they should be getting my order for another 1903.
Next payday, I am going to order a rack grade Dane.
Yes, they come right to your door.
I recently got a Service Grade, Greek, H&R, M1 from the CMP.
To me, it is very satisfying to get one of these rifles, tear it completely down, clean everything, lubricate, replace the springs, and restore the rifle to it's former glory.
I have a USGI Springfield M1 order pending, I should have it the first of next week.
Within a few days they should be getting my order for another 1903.
Next payday, I am going to order a rack grade Dane.
Yes, they come right to your door.
--- "BTW, what's the best CMP club to join to qualify? "
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I can't say what the best club is to join, but the Garand Collectors Association is a good club which is easy to join. You print and mail in a form, along with $25. The CMP hooks directly up with them to verify you are a member when you place an order. I gave it a couple of weeks after mailing my GCA application, then mailed my CMP application.
You also get journals with Garand information four times a year.
www.garandcollector.org
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I can't say what the best club is to join, but the Garand Collectors Association is a good club which is easy to join. You print and mail in a form, along with $25. The CMP hooks directly up with them to verify you are a member when you place an order. I gave it a couple of weeks after mailing my GCA application, then mailed my CMP application.
You also get journals with Garand information four times a year.
www.garandcollector.org
pauli
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i was most pleasantly suprised to find that vcdl is affiliated with teh cmp - and they count for the club requirement.
not very useful for a delaware resident, but hey
not very useful for a delaware resident, but hey
Malone LaVeigh
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Is the Greek in .308 or .30-06?
The Greeks are out I guess, they are advertised on their board and I bought one. I don't keep up with this stuff, I just decided to start buying them and the Greeks were listed on the website. I got it in exactly two weeks.
It is a .30-06 (it's a real M1 ).
It looks OK. That is it. The reciever was made in 1955. I ordered an H&R and every part that I have identified has been H&R. Personally, I wouldn't want it if it was pristine. I have a new Springfield Armory M1: I wanted a few of the ones that had been there and done that.
The parkerizing is well faded with shiny spots on the edges. The stock has been well beaten up. But it shoots fine.
It is a .30-06 (it's a real M1
). It looks OK. That is it. The reciever was made in 1955. I ordered an H&R and every part that I have identified has been H&R. Personally, I wouldn't want it if it was pristine. I have a new Springfield Armory M1: I wanted a few of the ones that had been there and done that.
The parkerizing is well faded with shiny spots on the edges. The stock has been well beaten up. But it shoots fine.
George S.
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The best bet for a Garand from the CMP is a Service Grade SA or maybe a SG Greek with a high serial number. Of course you can always visit the North Store in Camp Perry OH and select your own. They have staff there to help you with your selection and you can wander among the racks "shopping" for one. Just have all of the necessary docs with you. You can join the GCA while you are there and they take VISA!! It's best to have the forms filled out but you can get them there and complete them.
Check out the CMP Forums for some good discussions about the different M1's available. The SA 1903's and 1903A3's are going to be gone after awhile, so if you want a bolt-action rifle, think about one of those too.
The Greeks seem to get a wide variety of views about their condition. Some seem to be in excellent condition and others are barely parts guns. A lot of the Greeks have wood that is pretty muched trashed but a Boyd's stock and grip set will fix that. There are some "woodless" SA Danes there that might be a good value but you have to get all of the metal components for the stock.
Don't forget to get some ammo from the CMP. It's USGI M2 Ball from Lake City Arsenal and only $230 delivered for 980 rounds (no clips).
Check out the CMP Forums for some good discussions about the different M1's available. The SA 1903's and 1903A3's are going to be gone after awhile, so if you want a bolt-action rifle, think about one of those too.
The Greeks seem to get a wide variety of views about their condition. Some seem to be in excellent condition and others are barely parts guns. A lot of the Greeks have wood that is pretty muched trashed but a Boyd's stock and grip set will fix that. There are some "woodless" SA Danes there that might be a good value but you have to get all of the metal components for the stock.
Don't forget to get some ammo from the CMP. It's USGI M2 Ball from Lake City Arsenal and only $230 delivered for 980 rounds (no clips).
"Some seem to be in excellent condition and others are barely parts guns. "
I know what you are saying, but to be clear to others, they are all parts guns. They have been used, repaired, rebuilt etc. numerous times. This whole "parts gun" thing doesn't mean much, if anything on a military surplus rifle. The rifles were designed to be repairable in the field, and they were. When one of these rifles had a problem in the field, the armor didn't worry about whether the replacement parts were from the same manufacturer that built the reciever: he got the rifle running again.
I know what you are saying, but to be clear to others, they are all parts guns. They have been used, repaired, rebuilt etc. numerous times. This whole "parts gun" thing doesn't mean much, if anything on a military surplus rifle. The rifles were designed to be repairable in the field, and they were. When one of these rifles had a problem in the field, the armor didn't worry about whether the replacement parts were from the same manufacturer that built the reciever: he got the rifle running again.
I had a little change in plans. I thought of my Nephews (3 y.o. twins) and decided that I'd buy them M1's as well. Since I'm looking at a large order, I'm thinking of taking the 8 hour drive up to OH and hand selecting several rifles. I think I'll buy 2 or 3 for myself, and 1 each for my nephews. The limit is 8 a year, right? Also, is there anything I should do prior to going there, or is it OK to show up with the paperwork and buy on the spot?
Sleeping Dog
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If you got the paperwork together, and the club membership evidence (Garand Collectors Assn will send the info to CMP), and you got the marksmanship requirement satisfied, there's not much more to do:
Take way more money than you think you need. In addition to guns, you'll undoubtedly want mass quantities of ammo. And a CMP hat and t-shirt. Well, one for you and one for each of the nephews.
Buying at the store, you have to pay 7% Ohio sales tax, but you don't have to pay shipping charges, unless something happens to the NICS check.
Bon voyage.
Take way more money than you think you need. In addition to guns, you'll undoubtedly want mass quantities of ammo. And a CMP hat and t-shirt. Well, one for you and one for each of the nephews.
Buying at the store, you have to pay 7% Ohio sales tax, but you don't have to pay shipping charges, unless something happens to the NICS check.
Bon voyage.
mustanger98
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I got a 2.3million serial# SG SA Danish M1 while they still had them. Dec'44 reciever, Jan'51 SA barrel, WRA bolt, most other parts are SA- a few marked PB or BMB- while the wood had the FKF sticker which means it's Danish. I'm quite satisfied. If I get another, it'll probably be either a RG Dane or a RG Greek. Most reports I've read said the RG Greeks are well worth the $295.
7% tax!?!?!?! That hurts! I live in a 0% sales tax state, so I'm not used to that stuff.
If I buy 4 or 5 rifles, shipping will be the same as tax if I drive there... Is being able to hand-pick worth the 16 hours of driving/gas/potential speeding tickets/etc?
If I buy 4 or 5 rifles, shipping will be the same as tax if I drive there... Is being able to hand-pick worth the 16 hours of driving/gas/potential speeding tickets/etc?
Swampy
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PAC762 wrote:
If you intend to buy "on the cheap" and get the Rack Grades, I'd say.... Possibly to Probably Yes.....
If, on the other hand, you are going "Cadillac" and buying the USGI Service Grades... you can be assured of a good rifle with usable wood and maximum stated wear on both ends of the barrel without having to make the drive.
I've ordered numerous M1's from the CMP, sight unseen, all have been (with one exception) USGI or Dane Service Grade, and all have been up to or better than my expectations.
Just my 2 bits,
Swampy
Garands forever
If you intend to buy "on the cheap" and get the Rack Grades, I'd say.... Possibly to Probably Yes.....
If, on the other hand, you are going "Cadillac" and buying the USGI Service Grades... you can be assured of a good rifle with usable wood and maximum stated wear on both ends of the barrel without having to make the drive.
I've ordered numerous M1's from the CMP, sight unseen, all have been (with one exception) USGI or Dane Service Grade, and all have been up to or better than my expectations.
Just my 2 bits,
Swampy
Garands forever
Fed-Ex just left after dropping off my USGI Springfield.
This rifle looks 100x better than the Greek. The stock only has one ding in it. I have only had it about five minutes, so I haven't had a chance to check it out throughly. The bolt is HRA.
This makes me want to buy more.
This rifle looks 100x better than the Greek. The stock only has one ding in it. I have only had it about five minutes, so I haven't had a chance to check it out throughly. The bolt is HRA.
This makes me want to buy more.
IBEWBULL
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http://nagr.org/M1garand.aspx?pid=th7
I hope I am putting this issue in the proper forum.
This is about Obama keeping M1s and carbines out of the USA and possibily destroying them.
I hope I am putting this issue in the proper forum.
This is about Obama keeping M1s and carbines out of the USA and possibily destroying them.
bigfatdave
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The one that gets you a range to use also.
FlyinBryan
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hopefully by now the op has received his m1.
Tim the student
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Uh, yeah. That was quite a thread bump.
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