CNN P Morgan talking gun control again tonight

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I give you the drone story...

the 1.6B bullet story is grossly misleading though.... they ordered and additional 200K bullets (which is not a lot by any means... heck I personally shoot 2K a year or more) and "apparently" that totals to 1.6B bullets already secured. the only sources for the 1.6B number are forums and conspiracy sites...

I'm not going into the 9-11 truther stuff... but Alex lost it. sorry. he was highly annoying and didn't do us a favor...
 
Interesting, because when I heard Mr Jones speak, it reminded me of many posts I have read on firearms forums and Facebook lately. Take a close look at yourself before you judge him
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Are you familiar with Alex Jones outside of this interview? If you are, you KNOW he's a prime example of the "deranged conspiracy theorist". Having somewhat similiar views on one topic hardly makes one a mirror image of this lunatic moron, and I certainly don't want him being the spokesperson for ANY cause I find important, let alone this one. If he is "our" face in this battle, we're doomed, and rightfully so for allowing such a person to take the forefront. If AJ was right, govt troops would have already stormed my home, taken my guns, beaten me, probably raped my wife, and locked us up in an indefinite detention camp "just because they CAN, you know".
 
Piers Morgan knew exactly what he was doing. He KNEW the whole time that he was going to go into the 9-11 conspiracy thing. He just sat there, playing the "rational" role instead of his usual whining, ranting persona, while Mr. Jones when off.

Mr. Jones made some good points, such as the violent crime statistics, etc, and wouldn't let Morgan get a word in edgewise. That was of course, planned. Then Piers changed the whole story around into the one thing he knew would discredit everything that Mr. Jones said, even if it was true: conspiracy stuff. What?! Really?! What does that have to do with the current topic? Nothing, that's what.

Ever hear of the phrase "to make a lie believable, put a little bit of truth in it?", well, Piers Morgan did the opposite: "to make the truth sound ridiculous, put a little bit of "discredit" in it." That was his play from the start. He'll never debate anyone on equal terms, because he KNOWS his facts are bs, and all he has are his little "factoids" (which was dead on, btw). When he did argue with someone who had some facts, Larry Pratt, he had no defense, so he just called him "stupid" on the air. Even then, Larry Pratt didn't rise to the bait. He just asked how Morgan could be so morally obtuse, that he would have people be defenseless. Morgan looked like he didn't even know what that meant.

Piers cannot talk about the 2nd Amendment with any real knowledge, nor can he talk about firearms with any real knowledge, because he has no knowledge of those topics. He doesn't really care to learn about those things, either. He's a court jester, playing for entertainment points. All he did was set Mr. Jones up as the defacto "spokesman" for firearms owners, and then discredit him. It was planned from the start.
 
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Alex Jones, did last night what he is becoming more and more known for, being brought in (and paid to be there) to provide an example of the "crazy right winger" for scripted "news" shows.

I've had to put up with people that eat, sleep and breathe the "Gospel of Alex" since his late night shortwave radio days, the man is a charlatan.
 
I haven't read all the posts here, nor do I watch this show, nor do I know this Jones character... With all my ignorance on the subject on the table, I still wonder, "Don't you all think Piers' crew chose Jones to make us all look like over zealous idiots?" There are more well spoken people on our side, but they could have blown Piers' weak comments completely off the map. How would that help his case? No, they get someone like this, and get him to lose his cool to make all of us look like we do the same. I do worse in a pinch, so I don't play the part of a standup guy knowing my place. But, Jones got the nod, makes us look bad, and makes Piers a hero (to some). That was no accident. Jones has some good data, and a strong backbone we need. He just needs to let someone else do the debates.
 
As others have said, Piers Morgan is very intelligent. He knew what he was doing. He normally talks over and gets loud at others who do not share his opinion. He sat back and played the "sane good guy" act. We need to remember that the anti gun crowd views most of us as "Alex Jones or Ted Nugent" types. We need to mind our P&Q's, this type of hype can hurt us... My local news reported this morning about Alex Jones "goes ballistic" on CNN's Piers Morgan show..... Emotions are what drives us, but need not be what guides us. I honestly wish a true interview would take place....
 
Yes, he made good points, but his delivery was disturbing. I wish I never watched it.
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I would agree with that.. he did not keep his composure very well at all. Passion is one thing freaking out is another IMO.

I still think Piers Morgan needs to be deported though! :D
 
No, I am not knocking either one. I just said they get emotional and. Say things that we have to be mindful of.. Nothing at all wrong with Uncle Ted or Alex Jones... To each their own... I just don't want to be classified as a nut, because of people letting their emotions get the best of them. I love hearing Ted talk about rights, he is very intelligent, he just sometimes says thing that aren't as positive when he gets emotional..
 
Alex Jones should be condemned for his behavior. In times like these we need a more sane and articulate spokesperson for our right to bear arms, not some out of control gun nut. He was doing very well at the outset but when he got emotional he went foulmouth and got out of control. Thats a no no in the public eye. All our cards are falling down as sane and responsible gun owners. The fact CNN is watched worldwide, that was so stupid .
 
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All I can say is "wow."

Just... Wow.

I'd never heard of Alex Jones before now.

But right now I'd like nothing more than to smack both him and Morgan in the face. :)

Idiots.
 
I don't know why anyone here is surprised by that shows content. There is little chance that they would actually book anyone that presented a convincing, well thought out and practical view of gun ownership that didn't come off as kooks. Not gonna happen on that show.
 
Hunterad said:
I'm embarrassed to call myself a gun owner when I have Alex Jones representing me. That dude needs some medication.
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Judging by your username, you should probably have your guns taken away. You would likely hunt your children into the grave. Find a gun buy back program in your area ASAP; do it for your children. :rolleyes:


Jorg said:
Alex Jones sure as hell doesn't represent me. In 7 minutes, Alex Jones has done his best to undo all the hard work that this forum has done to portray the positive face of gun ownership.

I am ashamed to be lumped in with this guy.
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This forum hasn't done any hard work. It's just a forum of posts. If any work was done, it's by the users themselves who called their representatives and donated to pro second amendment groups, not the moderators or administrators here.
 
Justin said:
*Justin removes his official THR Moderator Hat, hangs it on a coat peg across the room, walks over to the couch, and sits down. He then sighs and warily eyes that hat before delivering the following.*
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What a pompous intro. I'm not impressed.


Alex Jones is a cretin. He is a lunatic who sees a conspiracy behind ever bush and a terrorist behind every dumpster. He is an idiot. A foil. The sort of person who I deeply and dearly wish was on the other side in the gun control debate because every time he opens his CostCo-sized maw and spouts something, it is bound to be a grenade thrown into his own camp.
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I'm not sure what your point is, as you launch your personal attacks. You don't think there are any conspiracies in the world, is that it?


Regardless of your feelings about the mainstream media and their role as lapdog to the powers that be, Alex Jones is still a thoroughly reprehensible, completely unhinged sociopath who's willing to make loud and obnoxious sounds "in the name of freedom" in order to build the ranks of his core audience.
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And after they come for AJ, they will come for your family members that spoke up. Eventually, after you've burned all your bridges, they will come for you, and your guns.


You should all goddamned well know better than to trust him as a primary source.
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Stop telling other people how they should think. You're not the master of reality. In fact, it seems quite apparent, your reality is putting your head in the sand, and crowning yourself the authority on everything.

*Justin stands up, walks across the room, takes his official THR Moderator Hat off of the coat peg and puts it back on.*
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If you're going to begin with a pompous intro, might as well end with a pompous outro, right?


As for Piers Morgan, of course the man is frightened to the point of soiling himself when confronted with the image of a gun. After all, he's frightened to the point of soiling himself when confronted with Jeremy Clarkson.
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Finally, we agree on something.
 
Sorry, he is well prepared to stage his anti gun campaign. I will not rate intelligence or the lack of to pro or anti gun. We just cannot classify the ignorant as anti gunners, or intelligence with pro gunners, people have the right to choose for themselves. The fact is that would stereotype them they way they do us(redneck gun nuts who are violent) I don't want to stoop to their level. I should have said he is very smart in the ways of making others look ignorant while spewing facts that only supports his side. He will not even consider his view is wrong or not for everyone. That is where I believe he is ignorant.
 
I liked it, piers talks down to everyone it was nice to see someone talk over him. Maybe it was pro wrestling, maybe it wasn't.
 
Justin said:
Just because CNN is a biased source and Piers Morgan is an idiot is no vindication of Alex Jones. That there are people who actually try to make this argument is utterly incomprehensible to me. People like David Icke and Alex Jones do us far more harm than good, and you should know better.
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I didn't try to defend Jones. I think Jones is a smart guy who's got a slick gig making himself a ton of money preying on the gullible - some of those folks I said don't have an original thought in their heads.

Morgan is also preying on the gullible, many in my own family.

So I'll ask again, how many people watching could see through be BS to discern reality? Damned few. Too damned few.

And both of them got what they wanted, a circus, plus the producers sold toothpaste ads.
 
he did not keep his composure very well at all.
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That IS composure for controversial radio hosts. They are, by nature, loud and abrasive.

I doubt most liberals believe Alex represents us any more than we think Peirs represents them. Both are on the fringe, and both are entertainers. They are not to be taken seriously.
 
I hate Piers. I don't think Jones made us look very good but what can we do? His points were pretty good though.
 
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