CO: Mountain lions in state's sights

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Keefover-Ring said she believes hunting mountain lions could increase the number of human attacks when young cats unfamiliar with how to behave around people take over the territory of a hunted cat.
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Mountain lions in state's sights
By Jeremy P. Meyer
Denver Post Staff Writer
http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_4870297


Colorado wildlife commissioners are seeking ways to cut the risk of mountain-lion attacks on the Front Range, including asking county officials to allow big- game hunting on open-space lands.

Commissioners are concerned open-space properties have become refuges for mountain lions they say are increasingly viewing humans as prey.

"When they really understand the lion population and the prey base up there, it's a statistical slam dunk that something bad is about to happen," Wildlife Commissioner Rick Enstrom said.

"It's not going to be on my neck," Enstrom said.

State officials say 3,000 to 8,000 mountain lions roam Colorado.

Among the management solutions that commissioners may ask counties to consider are limited hunting of mountain lions or their prey and permitting hunting dogs to chase away the big cats, Enstrom said.

Wildlife officials will meet with county officials today to explain the state's concern and outline a proposed research project that will try to determine the best ways to manage the cats.

Next month, wildlife commissioners will meet with Front Range lawmakers to explain their concerns, Enstrom said.

Colorado has a hunting season for mountain lions from November to March, permitting the harvesting of about 600 cats a year.

Two people in Colorado have died from mountain-lion attacks over the past 15 years - an 18-year-old man jogging in Idaho Springs in 1991 and a 10-year-old boy hiking with his family in Rocky Mountain National Park in 1997, according to the Colorado Division of Wildlife.

A 3-year-old boy who disappeared in 1999 in the Comanche Peak Wilderness area and whose body was found in 2003 also is suspected to have been killed by a mountain lion.

Last Easter, a boy survived an attack west of Boulder while he was walking with his father, which raised public awareness, said Tyler Baskfield, Division of Wildlife spokesman.

Wendy Keefover-Ring of Boulder-based Sinapu, a wildlife organization, said the fears of mountain-lion attacks are overblown.

"Chances of getting attacked by a mountain lion are about the same as getting struck by lightning and winning the lottery on the same day," she said.

Keefover-Ring said she believes hunting mountain lions could increase the number of human attacks when young cats unfamiliar with how to behave around people take over the territory of a hunted cat.

Ron Stewart, Boulder County director of parks and open space, said only three incidents have occurred with humans and mountain lions in the past few years.

"Our land basically hasn't been allowed for hunting in the past, except for management reasons," Stewart said. "The state would have to make a pretty compelling argument for any consideration to alter that."

Staff writer Jeremy P. Meyer may be reached at 303-954-1367 or [email protected].
 
Hmm, they hunt them all the time back home (Vancouver Island, BC, Canada), attacks aren't up... and the population density of Cougars is one of the highest in North America...

Her statement doesn't pass the stink test...
 
I believe we still hunt them in Washington too without ill-effect. In fact IIRC attacks increased proportionally with additional restrictions on cougar hunting.
 
Denver is a California beach head. There are more moonbats there then in the rest of the forntrange. I once got into an arguement over Prairie Dogs being an endangered species. The enviro-weenie argued passionately that they were endangered because there are currently only about 2% of their population three hundred years ago.

I responded that it the same for mosquitoes; there are still billions of them and they aren't endangered.

Then she emotionally stated, "But Prairie Dogs are a Keystone Species"! To which I replied, "What's that"? She said Prairie Dogs were essential to the ecosystem because so many preditors eat them.

The shaft through the heart: my response, "Oh, like me! I get it."

The look of disgust and fear on her face was priceless!
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There are more and more sightings closer and closer to the Glorious People's Republic of Boulder. With any luck, maybe they will chow down on some of the spandex clad tree hugging terrorists disguised as environmentalists, or some "Open Space" Nazis.
 
"Chances of getting attacked by a mountain lion are about the same as getting struck by lightning and winning the lottery on the same day," she said.
Obviously this is an absolutely false statement unless someone can show that someone, somewhere, has won a lottery and been struck by lightning in the same day. Even the same life.
People do both in fairly respectable numbers, but odds against one are so great that one particular person's likelyhood of either are long. Still somebody always "wins".
Liberal mush heads always rely on emotion rather than reason or facts.
Even if lions killed 1000 people a year, YOUR odds would still be low.
 
For three quarters of the 20th century there were no recorded instances of mountain lions attacking people in California. California banned mountain lion hunting in 1971. There have been almost a dozen attacks and several fatalities since.

I don't know if it's perfectly fair to lay the blame for those attacks on the ban. There are too many other factors at work for us to draw such a simplistic conclusion. It does, however, seem indicate that Wendy Keefover-Ring is a goofball.
 
Kinda funny, the state pays wildlife biologists lots of money every year to study wild animals and apply their years of knowledge in an effort to decide how best to deal with the species that coexist with humans. Then we have some whining ninny from an animal rights group who has no real knowledge regarding wildlife management and species interactions with humans and the changing environment demanding a say in how to deal with mountain lions.

Whats next.... will she want to do brain surgery on some poor kid with a tumor because her "deeply held opinions" qualify her in that arena also?
Why do we pay wildlife biologists to study these situations and then let special interest morons try and short circuit the findings of science. I say she needs to put up or shut up. Show me your credentials that qualify you to make the blanket statement that hunting big cats will increase the chances of them attacking people. Otherwise butt the h*** out. Older cats don't teach younger cats how to interact with people, how cats react to us is instinct, not learned. When they overcome this instinctual fear is when we need to worry and not before.
 
"Chances of getting attacked by a mountain lion are about the same as getting struck by lightning and winning the lottery on the same day," she said.

I guess we're all bound to win the lottery on Vancouver Island...

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Posted on the Pacific Trail Vancouver Island....
 
darn

heck of a thing when you have a choice of which critter kills and eats ya. import a few wolves for the hat trick.
 
Colorado wildlife commissioners are seeking ways to cut the risk of mountain-lion attacks on the Front Range, including asking county officials to allow big- game hunting on open-space lands.

THIS IS NOT the D.O.W. bending over for some beurocrat or 'asking permission' to do their jobs, in essence it's a zoning issue. "Open Space" is a specific KIND of real estate managed by the local park service or housing development, NOT National Forest, State Lands, Wilderness Area, School Board, Right of Way, BLM or other "PUBLC" lands. OPEN SPACE is not 'public land' in a traditional sense.

OPEN SPACE can be anything from a manicured playground to a pristine wetland on the border of a golf course.

The "idea' of 'open space' is to have SOME wildlife (migratory and local birds, racoons foxes, deer, natural plants etc.) near developed land (people) and it's a compromise from bulldozing what was there to put in a parking lot.

This 'legislation' won't open goose hunting on the back 9 of our local golf courses and is MOST LIKELY in the interest of 'open space' in and around Boulder and Larimer county, and may take into account certain areas SW of Denver. This is targeted legislation at specific problem areas.

This is NOT a DENVER issue, the state house is IN Denver.
 
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