Ok I posted this on another forum and go 0 answers.. I have a stoeger uplander side by side and was wondering if it is safe to put it in my safe with 2 shells loaded. I have heard that it can damage some internals. I heard that you should unload it and pull both triggers to release tension... is there any validity to this??
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OK, springs wear out from repeated cycling, not from constant compression. That being said, I keep my doubles (all used for HD) with chambers empty and the hammers down. I rubber band 2 shells to the barrels just ahead of the forearm so I am ready to break and load the gun RFN. Each has a butt cuff with 6 extra rounds in it. I cannot imagine a HD scenario that will require more firepower to prevent an entry, or to terminate one already made. 2 of my coach guns are Stoegers, a SXS and an O/U, 2 others are a repro hammer gun, and a Stevens 311R. All are stashed concealed near likely points of entry.
If you want to keep yours loaded and on safe it will not hurt the gun. I keep mine the way I do because I keep all long guns "cruiser ready", that is mag loaded, chamber empty and I want to keep everything uniform so I know that I have to chamber a round in ALL my weapons. Never have to think about it that way.
If you want to keep yours loaded and on safe it will not hurt the gun. I keep mine the way I do because I keep all long guns "cruiser ready", that is mag loaded, chamber empty and I want to keep everything uniform so I know that I have to chamber a round in ALL my weapons. Never have to think about it that way.
I operate under the premise that the type of mainspring in the shotgun has a bearing. Coil springs, I believe, are less prone to "taking a set" than leaf springs. I formerly had a Turkish-made SxS which had leaf springs. I believe the Stoeger uses modern coil springs, as does the Baikal/Spartan. I don't know about the CZs. I would be less concerned about the springs being under constant tension with coil springs.
I would add that I believe also that most shotgun safeties only block the trigger and do not block the firing pins and/or hammer. If I were to keep a Stoeger loaded (and cocked), I would keep the gun broken open slightly and not depend entirely on the safety. Just MO.
I would add that I believe also that most shotgun safeties only block the trigger and do not block the firing pins and/or hammer. If I were to keep a Stoeger loaded (and cocked), I would keep the gun broken open slightly and not depend entirely on the safety. Just MO.
oneounceload
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Why would you want it loaded INSIDE your safe? Will you always remember that particular gun is loaded? The only guns that are loaded in my house are NOT in the safe
rcmodel
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SO, unless you store it loaded in the safe with the muzzles down?
Both barrels are probably going to be pointed at your face when you grab it out of the safe in the middle of the night!
I would leave it empty with the shells setting right beside it ready to load.
Loaded double guns setting around make me very nervous!
The sliding safety only blocks the triggers.
It doesn't make it drop safe if it falls over.
rc
Both barrels are probably going to be pointed at your face when you grab it out of the safe in the middle of the night!
I would leave it empty with the shells setting right beside it ready to load.
Loaded double guns setting around make me very nervous!
The sliding safety only blocks the triggers.
It doesn't make it drop safe if it falls over.
rc
highorder
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That doesn't sound like a good plan, but that's another thread.
highorder
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It seems to me that a safe should be locked when unattended. Home but asleep sounds like unattended to me. Consider a home invasion or burglary scenario; you may not have time to get to the safe to close it or access its contents. In another scenario, I'd simply rather be pressured to open my safe as opposed to it being open.
Just my opinion.
Just my opinion.
I assume every gun in my safe ... and everywhere else is loaded until proven otherwise with a visual/physical check.
My coach gun stays loaded in a concealment case in my bedroom. The safety is on but my wife has been trained to grab it as if it is loaded, i.e. with good trigger discipline, in the event of a scenarior where it is urgently needed. I, of course, do the same.
rcmodel
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I think I'd devise a spacer under the rear end of the light to match the lens diameter, or a spacer for the whole light main body so it is closer to bore-sighted where the barrels are pointed.
Looks like it is pointing way down hill from the barrels in the photo.
I'd bore sight the light so it shoots where the main light beam points.
rc
Looks like it is pointing way down hill from the barrels in the photo.
I'd bore sight the light so it shoots where the main light beam points.
rc
oneounceload
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Leave the gun in the safe UNLOADED. At night, take it out, load it, and place it wherever with the rest of the safe locked. In the morning, unload and put back in the safe.
Personally, a loaded coach guns with little kids around is not necessarily the best option, especially if those kids have a tendency to come running into the room in the middle of the night for whatever reason, (like a thunder storm).
Personally, a loaded coach guns with little kids around is not necessarily the best option, especially if those kids have a tendency to come running into the room in the middle of the night for whatever reason, (like a thunder storm).
oneounceload
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As do I, but since I am the ONLY one who goes into my safe, I KNOW NONE of those guns are loaded, not even the mags are loaded and out of the gun. The guns for HD/SD are in another place
I'm also the only one who goes into (or has the combination to) my safe. However, I'm with the OP. I have loaded guns in my safe. No, I don't have to look down their barrels to remove them.
My gun safe is in what you could consider a panic room. If my family and I are retreating to that room, we will most likely need (more) loaded weapons in short order. I know that sounds paranoid, but we've had a couple break-in situations in our neighborhood that made me go there.
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I have mine in a metal gun cabinet next to my bed, loaded but broken open, barrel facing down. I can take it out, easily see that it's loaded, close the action and flip the safety off and it's ready to go. I put my key in the gun cabinet when I go to bed for quick access, and take the key out when I leave in the morning, since it's attached to my car and house keys. It's not completely burglar proof (it might be enough to prevent a quick smash and grab type burglar), but will keep little kids and snooping cleaning ladies out when I'm not around.
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