788Ham
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Thanks Drail, I've got some acetone, never dawned on me to use that. Appreciate your help!!
Cold Blue: What Am I Doing Wrong?
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I am one of those guy's that get to fix what has been DIY'd
Most of the products mentioned above in my experience are stop gap at best.
IMHO
If it truly needs work.
There are people that have the skills, like I have that can make it look like it did when that box was first opened.
I can go on about what I have seen in trying to undo the affects of cold blue's. Many will argue and deny them.
From what I see, IMHO they are not worth your time!
But then again I fix other peoples mistakes!
Most of the products mentioned above in my experience are stop gap at best.
IMHO
If it truly needs work.
There are people that have the skills, like I have that can make it look like it did when that box was first opened.
I can go on about what I have seen in trying to undo the affects of cold blue's. Many will argue and deny them.
From what I see, IMHO they are not worth your time!
But then again I fix other peoples mistakes!
788Ham
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I received a small bottle of the Oxpho-Blue, got a can of acetone and tried this Oxpho product on the barrel of my .32 Beretta, was totally disappointed in it! I tried the recipe evan price used {his methods}, sorry evan, even after 2 applications it didn't do what was needed. I tried the 0000 steel wool and the oil process after heating and applications, left the barrel splotchy at best. The Oxpho "might" have darkened the barrel "some", I don't have any equipment to verify such, so........ I got out the Cold Blue cream, made 2 applications with that, this time around, I had the barrel darkened to look like its supposed to look, like new and with a beautiful luster! Possibly the steel used in Beretta's barrels is different than some who've used the Oxpho on their firearms with good success, I didn't and won't use this gunk again. YMMV
orionengnr
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Well, I have not tried everything, but I've tried a few things...
In my limited experience, the Blue Wonder stuff seems to work as well as most. It is not truly "blue"...more black, but is a fairly rich and uniform black.
I have not done any large parts yet (I have a Springfield M1918 16 gauge sxs that will really prove the concept when I work up the nerve to try it
) but I have done some individual parts and they look really good so far...much better than the Birchwood Casey stuff I tried last time.
Note that I have not tried the Oxpho Blue yet.
In my limited experience, the Blue Wonder stuff seems to work as well as most. It is not truly "blue"...more black, but is a fairly rich and uniform black.
I have not done any large parts yet (I have a Springfield M1918 16 gauge sxs that will really prove the concept when I work up the nerve to try it
) but I have done some individual parts and they look really good so far...much better than the Birchwood Casey stuff I tried last time.Note that I have not tried the Oxpho Blue yet.
langenc
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I did not read all posts. Most shooters dont like cold blue.
Get the OXPHO as mentioned but get the PASTE-about the consistance of hand lotion.
It will do a good job with 3 or 4 coats. Somewhere on line there are instructions to use a 'shoe polishing stroke' with the OXPHO PASTE. That makes it better.
Get the OXPHO as mentioned but get the PASTE-about the consistance of hand lotion.
It will do a good job with 3 or 4 coats. Somewhere on line there are instructions to use a 'shoe polishing stroke' with the OXPHO PASTE. That makes it better.
does rubbing alcohol actually degrease? In my experience it just sort disolves it, spreads it around if you don't use an absorbent cloth, and then dries again with streaks...
how about carbeurator cleaner? That would be my first choice assuming it doesn't ruin any plastic components of the gun.
how about carbeurator cleaner? That would be my first choice assuming it doesn't ruin any plastic components of the gun.
jcwit
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Once again, use Oxpho blue, no need to degrease, read the lable and follow Brownells instructions, after all they are the gunsmiths supply house, and know whereof they speak. If you have trouble call their techs.
LukeTheDrifter
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I use B.C. Super Blue, not Perma Blue. Use brake cleaner (spray outside so you don't fry your brain) followed by a rubbing with extremely strong alcohol to degrease the surface. I use patches or cut-up t-shirts to apply the alcohol and the blue. Right after the alcohol evaporates, saturate a big patch with the bluing liquid. Smoothly rub that patch on the area needing touch-up. I keep a big bowl of real hot, dish-soapy water right beside me as I apply the blue. Dunk the metal into that bowl and just move it through the water. Dry it off with a towel. Do this a couple of times, if you need to, but don't forget the soapy water at the end. Once everything looks about right, you need to clean and oil your gun. Use RemOil for the surface of the entire gun. Use a patch to polish and blend the newly blued area with the rest of the gun. The RemOil will help on a couple of levels: It will bring everything to a nice polish, and it will protect from rusting very well.
Mark III pistols have a LOT of oil in the metal when they come from the factory. That's why I recommend the brake cleaner, then alcohol. I've never needed to use heat, as long as I'm very deliberate in how I do my part. I've tried all sorts of stuff, but this is the best combo I've used.
Mark III pistols have a LOT of oil in the metal when they come from the factory. That's why I recommend the brake cleaner, then alcohol. I've never needed to use heat, as long as I'm very deliberate in how I do my part. I've tried all sorts of stuff, but this is the best combo I've used.
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firm believer in oxpho blue. it gave me a nice matte black finish over my 870 after i media blasted the whole thing. i applied with cotton ball swabs probably 3-4 times wiping off the excess with a paper towel between coats and oiled it well afterwards. it wears but has held up quite well i gotta say. occasionally i wipe the excess oil off with a rag and kinda give it the shoe shine treatment with the oxpho on a rag and the finish is starting to get somewhat of a luster. one day im gonna attempt to give it one of those finely polished blue finishes, but i feel that is part of the whole ownership aspect of firearms, the maintenance and upkeep that is...
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