Cold Bore Coke Can at 100 yards.

[entropy]

someguy2800, when are we going to whack pop cans? I'll meet you on the cross roads of 63 & 53 at the Dinner Bell in Trego Wisconsin. Me & the Misses have had many a breakfast there. Prior to selling off the retirement property we did spend a little time there. Imagine how the Mainards felt when a North woods Boundary Waters Boy popped a couple more coke cans then they where able? Looking forward to seeing your honest progress on the 100 yard coke can line.
(ps if you ain't zeroing to your cold bore shot, that first can with one shot might be more of a challenge than you could expect to solve. JMHO.)

Trego's about 80 miles from me, M118LR. Are you originally a Minnesotan?

 

[HB]

Going to the range tomorrow. It will be a paper target with a tracing of a can on it. Gun shoots 2” high at 100 so I’ll like just trim the top rim off!

In all reality that would be great shooting. I’ll bring the AR as well, and post pics.

I have found that clays and cans on a berm don’t tell the full story. Many times you can hit way low but still send the can into space

HB

 

[Walkalong]

Many times you can hit way low but still send the can into space

Isn't that how you are supposed to do it?

 

[HB]

Isn't that how you are supposed to do it?

A tin can, muddy bank, and 3030 is ideal

 

[rpenmanparker]

Many hunters will go to the range, fire a few rounds supported to check zero, and pronounce themselves "good" for the season. Many others don't even do that. From looking at some of the groups on targets left downrange (we all do it- be honest), there's a whole lot of hunters that would be pushing it to put a good shot on a deer even at 100 yards supported. There's much more to hunting than just marksmanship, but marksmanship is an essential part of being a successful hunter. I shoot enough that I know if I fail to successfully recover a deer I shot at, it WON'T be due to me not having practiced in the basics- it will be due to some other factor - that is still most likely my fault.

I have observed that. Many hunters really don’t enjoy shooting a gun. A few zeroing shots at the range and a couple to get their buck (or not) and that’s the season. A box of ammo could last for years.

 

[HB]

Here are the targets as promised. Left the AR at home. First round had 2 close and one flyer.

Round 2 had 3 great shots and 1 wild flyer.

Recoil management and follow through were abhorrent.

The paper with 3 dots was fired from the bench with the same loads out of a Zastava Mauser I bedded and handload for. Honestly a lot of luck was involved. I still wouldn’t hesitate to take an offhand shot at a deer at 100 yards.

Who’s next?

HB

 

[redneck2]

When I worked at the LGS, we had some guys going on an elk hunt. Night before leaving they both came in and bought .300 Win Mags. Got the cheapest Barska scopes

They wanted to make sure we bore sighted them so they’d be ready for the hunt

 

[M118LR]

Trego's about 80 miles from me, M118LR. Are you originally a Minnesotan?

Not Originally, but It took a few of my teenage years to qualify as a "Coureur de Bois" in the Boundary Waters jumping off from Ely.
When I was knee-high I spent my summers in the Tri-state Cape Girardeau-Cairo-Paducah area. Ventured into the Wis-Mich-small soft drink area (Minnie Soda) when I became independently mobile. The "I was born under a wandering star" song seems to fit me well. LOL

 

[HB]

If nothing else this may become a frequent challenge for me. I had 2 guys shooting custom 700s next to me, benched. Felt good to stand up and shoot on my hind legs like a man.

 

[rpenmanparker]

If nothing else this may become a frequent challenge for me. I had 2 guys shooting custom 700s next to me, benched. Felt good to stand up and shoot on my hind legs like a man.

...or a woman!

 

[M118LR]

The nut behind the butt is solely based on trigger finger skill, how many legs you have to stand upon is of no concern. Projectiles on target don't care about the sex of the shooter. JMHO. But as a Father of three Daughters, go Girl go! LOL

 

[Wisco]

At first I was thinking "can't be that hard!"

I used my pre-64 Model 70 with peep sight and brass bead front. I took a few dry fire practices. That small bead just about covers a soda can at 100. I took a crack at one of four soda cans sitting on a board. I just nicked it off...I barely hit the side of the can. Missed the next 3 cans, one barely, two others by inches, all in different directions...high, left, right.

My regular practice for hunting is hitting a 6-8 inch circle from 50-150 in a few positions...kneeling, standing, sitting, rested on something makeshift. Going from 6 inches down to 3 is a real challenge for me...especially shooting standing with a rifle I consider heavy compared to the 22s I shoot most often.

 

[M118LR]

Didn't I state that this is not as easy as it sounded at first? If you really want to be embarrassed? Try that 200 yard 10 inch paper plate standing unsupported stuff. Told Y'all that 15-20 proven successful hunters didn't hit a single can with 4 shots each. They ain't bad shoots, this just ain't poster board or internet rhetoric. It ain't much harder than taking your opening day rifle out to the range and setting up a couple (four to be exact) of coke cans, (Yup, trace a few coke cans onto paper targets if that's all the range allows) and then mowing them down while standing up. Just how difficult can that be???????? LOL LOL
DO IT, like they say on the NIKE Commercials.

Varminterror and I may have to prove just how easy this can be someday at a prearranged spot.

 

[someguy2800]

This is far far more difficult than the paper plate at 200 challenge. This is smaller than the 10 ring on an NRA reduced high power target used in the slowfire standing stage, so you are understating the level of difficulty for the average shooting to go out and do this with a hunting rifle. It can be done but this is very challenging task for non competitive shooters that do not practice this discipline.

I have never shot a deer standing unsupported at over 50 yards and probably never will but I do enjoy a challenge. This doesn't make someone any less of a hunter if you can't do this, you just have to know and work around your limitations.

 

[Varminterror]

I’m with @someguy2800 - nothing about 2moa offhand sounded easy, and reiterating it doesn’t make it any easier. As I said above, your “games,” which you haven’t deigned to play yourself, went from a 5moa game to a 2moa game.

From my HUNTING gear, this 2moa coke can game isn’t easy, but I’d expect 3 of 4 hits, just as likely to have my cold bore be one of the 3. On a good day, 4 out of 4. But when I HUNT, I shoot supported on at least a monopod shooting stick, and typically do so kneeling. For coyote calling, I’m usually seated on a bipod. The offhand unsupported game is just that - it’s a fun game - but it’s not one I’d play on live game. A deer’s heart is roughly twice the size of our pop can here. When I hunt prairie dogs or crows, I’m ALWAYS on a bipod or front rest.

It shouldn’t be so surprising to see offhand shooting be an “old world skill.” Nobody has to shoot offhand outside of competition which requires it.

 

[dieselchief]

ahem, someguy and m118lr > on sat in harris mn there is a 22rimfire off hand silhouette shoot. 37, 50 75 100.
.....where county a crosses 53/63 in spooner there is a gun club with a range. minong has a 400 yard range....
pm me for any details for a day of 22 enjoyment....dc

 

[rpenmanparker]

The common paper substitute for coke cans as targets is the 3X5 index card. Only 1/4 inch larger in both height and width, and it doesn’t fly away when you hit it.

 

[HB]

Honestly it shouldn’t be that hard. My wobble was about the size of the paper plate, all comes down to trigger discipline.

That being said I am 26 in decent shape and shot 3 position air rifle and small bore through high school. We used to hit a dot the size of a period at 10 meters 93% of the time with the top shooters hitting 97% plus

 

[Kingcreek]

Its been years since I shot highpower Service Rifle. There was a time I would have scoffed at that challenge. Now I'm going to have to try it!
(I'll use one of my actual hunting rifles. Probably the Tikka T3 .308)

 

[jmorris]

I have found that clays and cans on a berm don’t tell the full story. Many times you can hit way low but still send the can into space

I prefer to fill them with water, makes more dramatic hits. Even with air rifles.



Never thought about it until now but the more you shoot them the colder the bore gets...

 

[Bushpilot]

When I'm in the field hunting and the game is far enough away that my ability to make the shot shooting offhand is questionable I am almost always able to quickly improvise a better shooting position then shooting purely offhand. Whether that is leaning against a tree, using a sling or dropping into either a sitting or knelling position, the vast majority of the time I can find a better way to make the shot then shooting offhand....... While I'm all for shooting practice and being sure of clean kills on game, I think being able to improvise a shooting position is just as important, maybe more so, than how well you can shoot offhand....

 

[Kingcreek]

I have made standing unsupported shots on game. It's rare that a better position can't be improvised but it can happen.
One example was a pronghorn that suddenly appeared where I wasn't expecting him and since he was looking at me like I had 2 seconds before he went zero to sixty and I was standing in open sage where he didn't expect me, I shot 1 shot at 110 yards with a .243 and a scope dialed down to 3x. Outcome was what I wanted even if not his.

 

[Poper]

I shoot rimfire silhouette and it is a very humbling game that takes a lot of practice to be good at. I don't know how many times I've invited guys to shoot that go in thinking "I'll show these guys how its done" and then find how difficult it is to hit those silhouettes. Most don't return, bruised their ego a bit too much. You have 4 banks of 10 silhouettes and you can only shoot one round per silhouette. If you miss you move to the next silhouette and shoot at it, shoot one out of sequence it doesn't count. No spray and pray until something falls. By the way, I don't practice enough so I don't clear 40 silhouettes, not even close.

Our smallbore silhouette matches are 3 banks of 4 animals for a 60 round match. Last match I missed shooting my class by 1 animal. I scored 21 of 60. The javalina being my poorest shooting, of all things!

 

[Garandimal]

"What then is a good field marksman? In my opinion, a man who can hit a tea cup at 100 meters with his first
shot, from a field position, in a 5 second interval is a good shot. Try this test on yourself, but do not call for
witnesses. People who talk about good shots are usually terrible liars."

- LtCol Jeff Cooper - Commentaries, Volume Ten, 2002 -



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GR

 

[illinoisburt]

Been preaching field shooting for a long time. Benches are great for sighting in, but I always have trouble finding one when hunting or dealing with vermin. My standard has been shotgun clays and the occasional milk jug or water/soda bottle filled with water. (As a kid cans and glass bottles had to recycle to get deposit so they were a non-targets.)

Anyway I absolutely agree that a dozen clays on a berm at 120 yards is a lot more fun and challenging than teeny groups on a sheet of paper. You will find out how much good balance and ergonomics mean fairly quickly. Bulky rifles with huge glass are at a disadvantage to a handy iron sighted or low power scoped carbine that points naturally - even if its one of those "inaccurate" 2+ moa guns.