Cold steel and the lott O hog.

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Got my first spear kill on a pair of hogs this week. These two were running with a herd of five hogs my dog bayed the first one in a mesquite. I came and speared him with my cold steel asengi. Initial impressions were such.

The hog was far more aggresive than I figured he would be once I got close. I guess the old thing about never corner a wild animal is true.

As I closed in on him he started screaming and growling popping his jaws and trying to charge. My dog would bite him each time turning him until I was able to kill him with a broadside spear strike to the heart.

The spear went through this small boar with shocking ease!!It felt like a hot knife into butter, it cut ribs shoulder blade and all but it felt like no resistance, in fact I shoved the spear all the way through him and darn near stuck my dog! I didn't expect it to slice so smoothly and easily.

At the strike the blood gushed out the bleeder vane and up the handle of the spear and that hog went from fighting and alive to stone cold dead in about 5 seconds. It absolutley shocked me how fast a spear stroke to the heart will kill a hog! Of course that is one serious sharp, wide cutting surface.

About ten minutes later my jadgterrier "Kubi" bayed up another small boar about 300 yards up the hill and I gave the spear to my buddy Tim who killed him on the second spear stroke. On the first one he hit the hog as it rushed him on a frontal angle sticking him in the neck between the shoulder blade and the ribs. He was soon after able to stick him in the heart with simular results to what I reported above.





The next day Tim used his new custom model 70 .458Lott to dispatch this big ole sow. Needless to say he was happy with his new rifle. It is a Model 70 stainless action, a stainless 21 inch barrel AO sights and a lightening fast smooth action and trigger it is shooting MOA and less at 100yds with Ashley's sights. A very sweet rig and one with improvements on the one I had built several years ago for my Kilombero swamp buffalo gun.

 
Bwana

Are you the mythical "Great white Hunter" often spoke of but rarley seen.

Ever try the elusive snipe hunt - armed only with a tactical burlap bag?

Few have measured up to this daunting task.. HA...i lay the guantlet before thee... :banghead:

12-34hom.
 
Are you the mythical "Great white Hunter" often spoke of but rarley seen.

Sorry 12-34 but you're message is coming in broken and unreadable. Please try again.

H&H
 
How easy did it pull out? Since Tim hit it twice, was it fast for him to pull it out and strinke again? It looks like it would be.

Another sweet story!
 
I've heard it said "Everyone has one book in'em".....except H&H who has, I figure, half a dozen and counting.

Another absolutley amazing read H&H!

"It absolutley shocked me how fast a spear stroke to the heart will kill a hog!"
For some reason the idea of "pig gigging" came to mind when I read that and completely cracked me up. I'm still laughing.

Best,

S-
 
HH,

You need a pitbull to catch for you... The you can use a knife and not have to lug that thing around. :D

I bet that does put the hurt to one in a hurry, the dang thing looks big enough to sever the lungs and heart in half.

We had a kid along one night and his grandpa had sent along a Bowie knife for him. He stuck the hog way to high behind the shoulder and the guy legging the hog told him, "Lower" so he just leaned on the Bowie(whose blade was jutting out the other side of a 180lb sow ) and he sliced straight through and out the bottom. She went, "Urhhh" and was dead, course you could also gut her via the hole there, lungs and hear out one side and the guts out of the other, sorta like cracking an egg. :D
 
How easy did it pull out? Since Tim hit it twice, was it fast for him to pull it out and strinke again? It looks like it would be.

Jeeper,

That Cold Steel asengi cuts from both ends front and back. Tim had absoloutly no problem pulling the spear out nor did I. That darn thing is scary sharp and shaped with only one intent in mind.

My buddy Ashley sent me two spears from Cold Steel. One is the asengi pictured the other is a boar spear. Those things have been sitting in the corner of my bed room for the last couple of months. Whispering "take me hunting...take me hunting". I just couldn't stand it anymore and had to give em a try!... :)
 
You need a pitbull to catch for you... The you can use a knife and not have to lug that thing around.

St. Gunner,

I wouldn't mind having a pit but I'm afraid he'd kill my cute, little, sweet, terrier. ;) besides I like watching my little lap dog bay and hold up a hog 20 times his size. I really like watching him grab an ear and play pit. He loves to do that! He's so small and fast them hog just can't turn inside him to get a lick. Not yet anyway I figure our day is coming..


Oh and hey nothing says get back you SNAG, PETA, Disney watching, fuzzy legged, wanna be tree hugging, poodle smoocher like a pair of Wranglers and a 7 foot Cold Steel asengi. I kind of like the look. :D
 
HH,

I hunt a female catahoula and male pits. The other thing I do is I don't turn my pits out until I am watching the hog. Its saved me a ton of staples and stitches over the years. I also run a cut vest and collar on the bulldogs. You right, you time is coming, it is for every dog that messes with hogs. My catahoula gyp worked some pretty nasty boars and didn't get hurt a lick, she got on a 140lb dressed weight with 1.5" teeth and he tore into her pretty good.

If you get a decent bloodline of pits pretty much the first thing they see and catch is what they are locked onto from then on out. Or so went the man who sold me some out of his game bloodlines. The only thing with them is if something jumps on them in the box, they will fight back and they don't like to quit. I keep mine seperated in the dog box, mainly because I don't ever want to have a problem. I leave one in with the female catahoula and then have a smaller seperation I keep the other pit in. I hunt two just because we do this so much it keeps em from being beat around as much. If I was hunting maybe every two weeks, i'd probably own just one.
 
Humans made a living for thousands of years taking critters the size of mammoths with wooden shafts tipped with chipped flint blades.

Take a side of beef and hang it up.

Shoot it once from 100 yards with the rifle caliber of your choice.

Then, walk up to the side of beef, and stab it right next to the bullet hole with a spear or sword or even big bowie knife.

Then, compare the amount of tissue damage done by the bullet and the blade.

Blade wins just about every time.

hillbilly
 
How do you train for spear use?

patentnonsense,

I'd like to be able to tell you some macho story about how I work out every day running across broken glass with bare feet and a 250Lb pack on my back.
Fighting off armed ninjas with my bare hands and a paper straw. But the truth goes more like this;

I have to give all the credit to my dog. because he is the true brave member of this party. All I did was a little sprinting a bit of a two step a duck a dodge and a stab with a really long sharp object. The dog did all the real work and all the dangerous work for sure.

I don't throw the spear I use it as a jabbing weapon. And i haven't really trained with it at all.

Now I do know of a man who is a true spear expert both throwing and jabbing and that is Mr Lynn Thompson the proprietor of Cold Steel knives who made these spears. Mr Thompson can throw a spear like a Samburu warrior and make it count at ranges you'd think impossible. Mr. Thompson has also killed at least two full grown trophy class Cape buffalo bulls with his spear. Talk about somebody you don't want to mess with!!! :uhoh:

Humans made a living for thousands of years taking critters the size of mammoths with wooden shafts tipped with chipped flint blades.

Hillbilly,

I just found this picture in my attic. This was my great, great, great, great ETC grandpappy Vigoor Torensten Allyn, after a succesfull spear hunt for giant tree sloths in the upper Mojongonjug province of Macho Grande. I guess this stuff just runs in the blood ;)


 
hillybilly wrote:

Humans made a living for thousands of years taking critters the size of mammoths with wooden shafts tipped with chipped flint blades.

And sometimes the occassional greasy spot. :D :D :D
Our ancestors must have been the athletic ones eh!

H&H
I wonder if they speared or "barked" giant tree sloths.....? :)

S-
 
Me see picture of H&HHunter ancestor.

Oog. Oog. Oog.

Me know good recipe for Giant Ground Sloth L'Orange.

Oog. Oog. Ugh. Oog.

hillbilly
 
H&H, here's to you and your big brass ones....

If I'm ever in your neck of the woods I'd like to buy you a beer and hear some more of your stories.
 
I just found this picture in my attic. This was my great, great, great, great ETC grandpappy Vigoor Torensten Allyn, after a succesfull spear hunt for giant tree sloths in the upper Mojongonjug province of Macho Grande. I guess this stuff just runs in the blood

Somehow the white athletic socks are just not screaming "mighty warrior" to me. :neener:

brad cook
 
Somehow the white athletic socks are just not screaming "mighty warrior" to me

Dig me,

I think if you look closer you'll see those aren't cloth socks at all. I believe they are bone boots made from a cave bear's pelvis bone obviously killed by the mighty warrior/hunter at great danger to himself his tribe and the checker at Wal-Mart. :D
 
Killing a cape buff with a spear = wow!

I'd pay money to see that.... :what:

I read an account of person who hunted and killed jaguars with a spear in the jungles of South America, i don't remember his name but it made an interesting read.

12-34hom.
 
H&H-
I've stuck one with a spear too. Your dead on about the results, just that quick. The one I stuck was down below me in a Bar pit. When I got to the dogs them and the hog were about 4 or 5 feet below where my feet were. The hog was backed up under some Galberry bushes and the dogs couldn't catch him. I could see his back and sides, so I just stuck it between his shoulder blades. Came out the bottom of his chest.Lots of blood, one squeal, and he jumped in the water and tried to swim. He didn't go three feet before he did the Titanic. I'll agree that him dying that fast was amazing. :what:
 
BTW I was just reading a Teddy Roosevelt book of hunting tales, and he commented (after hunting javelina) that spear hunting would have been more fun.
 
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