Coming soon..."Worlds smallest 45 auto"

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nwilliams said:
Personally I can think of many other guns in that same price range that I would much rather have. I'll pass.
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I agree. I guess if $ was no object I would love one. Interesting design, but it doesn't do that much more. One more round and a slightly longer barrel is cool, but honestly in a pocket gun scenario is the slightly longer barrel going to make much difference in a 3 yard shot? Is one more round that big of a deal when you are using a low round gun anyway?
 
It's not for everyone. If you are well heeled and like to have the best of everything and the newest, then this would fall into that category. They make limited edition cars left and right, and guns. This is not that expensive when you look at 1500 dollar Kimbers and 5 thousand Wilsons. It's Rolex vs Timex, once again.
He only needs a few folks to buy his limited production pistols. I would love one. Considering a S&W pro series is $1000 dollars, then a hand made pistol I definatelly worth more if it does what it says.
 
With all the people whining about the price, now I know why Colt doesn't make any new revolvers.
 
I don't see a problem with the pricing. Boberg's guns are good quality. He has engineered a pistol design to maximize the ballistic performance of a cartridge in the smallest format possible with todays technology and materials. I don't own one but have shot several and have been pleased with the results. His pistols are a much better value than some others that people rave about.Now if he would just make one in 50GI or 460Rowland I might get excited.:D
 
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With all the people whining about the price, now I know why Colt doesn't make any new revolvers.
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Whining? I don’t understand how someone’s dislike over something equals whining. By that logic you’re whining over someone else’s whining….

I need a gun that will dependably make a loud bang when I pull the trigger and then reload itself reliably. I need a gun that will put the hole reasonably close to where I have the sights aligned.

Does the Boberg do that? In all likelihood, it will. Does a Glock do that? Yes. Does a Springfield XDS do that? Yes. Will the Boberg do those things better, and will it do them ~$500 worth better? Probably not. That’s Colt’s problem- people didn’t think their product was worth the extra money, especially when the quality fell. That, however, is a subject for a different thread.

Will Boberg sell them? Yes! Everyone is different and what blows my kilt up might not even sway yours- and vs versa. But if I don’t believe the product value is in line with the price point (and not just for guns) then I will pass. Right now that’s how I see this product.
 
If someone would sell a magazine for the G36 with one less round in it and a flush baseplate I'd be all over it. (Yes I know there's a story or two about someone who engineered a fix by modifying existing mags). For me that giant rubber pad coming off the bottom of the gun makes it too big for pocket carry for me. The XDs is just a bit too big as well.

While I wouldn't pay $1,000+ for this one, that's only because my current financial situation doesn't really justify me spending $1,000 on anything. If I didn't live with a woman and her two kids and all my money didn't go to paying bills? Heck yeah I'd buy one.
 
Direct blowback?! Are they insane? This has been tried many, many times. Any time anyone tries to make a direct blowback pistol for anything larger than 9x18 Mak, it results in frame or slide cracking. Springs simply aren't strong enough to handle it, especially with such a short slide stroke, without it being so stiff that your average person wouldn't be able to rack it. Boberg can engineer all they want, but they cannot change the laws of physics. There is a century of precedent saying this won't work. Without a locking breech, full-power handguns will mechanically fail.
 
WardenWolf,

Direct blowback? The 9mm version uses a rotating barrel locking mechanism. I don't know how this action compares to the Berreta/Stoeger rotating barrel lock up.

I'm no Boberg expert but I don't think their pistols, in production or planned/possible, use a blowback action.

Dan
 
There comes a point of diminishing returns in everything. It's not the price, it's the usefulness of a weapon that small when needed in a hurry. Plus enough rounds to make a fight of it with more than 1 bad guy. Guess I am old fashioned, my PM9 is as small as I want to go, with 2 or 3 spare mags in my pocket or on my belt. Or my XDS with the ability to mount a light and use an extended mag if need be.
That may be good for a back up gun, but too much money considering I can get a new Colt and a shield for near that.
 
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Having personally seen the 9mm version pull cases out of the mag leaving the bullet behind, I'd really like know know how they overcome this with 45ACP. Heavy object at rest and all that... :scrutiny:
 
Okay, so I can now state that they are guilty of false advertising. It is not the smallest semi auto .45 auto. I just measured my AMT .45 Backup. It's shorter in length, shorter in height and thinner.

Yes, it does hold only 5 +1, but they didn't say it was the smallest holding 6 + 1, they said it was the smallest, and it ain't.

I'll stick with my Backup, until someone does come up with something "smaller".

Just did a Google search and found these specs for the AMT.

http://whichgun.com/pistols/view/amt-45-acp-backup

Definitely smaller in all dimensions.
 
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Do some research... it's an overcomplicated design that results in a high price point and unreliable operation. I'll stick with something that is half the price, but reliable even if it's bigger. Perhaps an XDs.
 
I don't have any experience with Boberg, and will probably never spend that kind of money on one, but I sure would love to see one in person. I think that they are a really neat design. It's nice to see true innovation once in awhile.
 
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