Concealed Carry Permit

[cz75bdneos22]

Reapply and see what happens. Two years is a long time.

If you're declined again, I would fight. Having anxiety is not a mental health illness that should screw your right to own a gun.

well, i will have to disagree...feel free to PM for further discourse on why it could/did prevent you from a CHL...BTW, i am interested in your particular case's details as i may be in the same situ due to brain surgery i had in November...see you soon.

 

[cz75bdneos22]

That might be why he's on anti-anxiety medication.


At any rate the lessons learned here are:
1) Never volunteer any information.
2) Never see a mental health professional voluntarily.

Sir, thanks for sharing your opinion, but it does nobody any good to suggest not "seeing" a mental health professional..(voluntary or involuntary). for the sake of information, i say this...take it for what it's worth to you. a person who most often "needs" the intervention of a MHP, due to his/her particular mental illnesses often debilitating symptoms will not volunteer to seek treatment. Usually, the deterioration to a person's ability to function in performing activities of daily living will be so compromised as to require that person's involuntary admission to a Psychiatric treatment facility for the protection of Self/Other's. It is no joke...seeking "help" is a choice very few people make willingly...for a variety of reasons..YMMV again, if i may be of some help, i am always available thru PM. Peace.

 

[bogie]

Just curious, but what are you taking?

 

[El Tejon]

Raven, maybe, depends on the agency that you are applying to here. It's goofy because of our two step process (local, then the state po-po); some locals care, some do not (as long as voluntary).

I'm only called when there is a problem (obviously). In all cases I have handled it is a law-abiding guy (but, e.g., treated for depression as a kid or after a divorce) who puts down more info than he needs because he does not want to be seen as hiding anything ("Hey, I'm a good guy, why wouldn't the police want me to carry?") and it blows up in his face.

I tell them to get an eval and clean bill of health and then reapply (I usually call and write the po-po to tell them what is going to be done). No problems with reapplication so far.

 

[RavenVT100]

Sir, thanks for sharing your opinion, but it does nobody any good to suggest not "seeing" a mental health professional..(voluntary or involuntary).

Uh, yes it does...especially when the trouble of having seen one is going to cause you more problems than the initial reason you went.

 

[Zundfolge]

Sir, thanks for sharing your opinion, but it does nobody any good to suggest not "seeing" a mental health professional..(voluntary or involuntary)...

Okay, you're entitled to your opinion as well, but let me throw a little background in here.

I went to college and studied for many years with the intention of becoming a Mental Health Professional until I came to the realization that modern psychology is frankly as "scientific" as leaches, phrenology and witch burning.

The vast majority of all Mental Health "Professionals" fall into one of two categories:
1) Legal drug pushers.
2) Priests in the church of New Age Agnostic Relativism.

The few that are legitimate are dealing with people with real mental illness (ie: real crazy people like Schizophrenics) not just well fed, bored Americans who are "depressed" because they aren't millionares by the time they are 30, or have made up illnesses like "sexual addiction". Too often we make up illnesses so to cover for deficiencies in character so the bad person can feel good about themselves because they are just a victim of some disease. ie: "No, I'm not an immoral and unethical person, I just suffer from a disease and have no control over my immorality!" or some other such nonsense.

The pseudo science of Psychology is more and more being used by our government to give government officials an excuse to take control of the minutia of our lives (and force our children onto destructive mind altering drugs), so I cannot in good conscience recommend the services of these people.

One is likely to get more good out of discussing their problems with a member of the clergy, a friend or a bartender.

Apologies to any of you out there who do therapy for a living, but I'm not any more inclined to join your cult as I would be to become a Scientologist.



Sorry for the mini rant ... it wasn't my intention to derail this discussion.

 

[cz75bdneos22]

Uh, yes it does...especially when the trouble of having seen one is going to cause you more problems than the initial reason you went.

PM if you'd like...I'd be interested in what your toughts are in this matter.

 

[cxm]

Obviously

Obviously you are not in Texas...

my CCW references were all asked if I had ever even SEEN a phychiatric professional for ANY reason.


they all said no.

 

[cz75bdneos22]

Okay, you're entitled to your opinion as well, but let me throw a little background in here.

I went to college and studied for many years with the intention of becoming a Mental Health Professional until I came to the realization that modern psychology is frankly as "scientific" as leaches, phrenology and witch burning.

The vast majority of all Mental Health "Professionals" fall into one of two categories:
1) Legal drug pushers.
2) Priests in the church of New Age Agnostic Relativism.

The few that are legitimate are dealing with people with real mental illness (ie: real crazy people like Schizophrenics) not just well fed, bored Americans who are "depressed" because they aren't millionares by the time they are 30, or have made up illnesses like "sexual addiction". Too often we make up illnesses so to cover for deficiencies in character so the bad person can feel good about themselves because they are just a victim of some disease. ie: "No, I'm not an immoral and unethical person, I just suffer from a disease and have no control over my immorality!" or some other such nonsense.

The pseudo science of Psychology is more and more being used by our government to give government officials an excuse to take control of the minutia of our lives (and force our children onto destructive mind altering drugs), so I cannot in good conscience recommend the services of these people.

One is likely to get more good out of discussing their problems with a member of the clergy, a friend or a bartender.

Apologies to any of you out there who do therapy for a living, but I'm not any more inclined to join your cult as I would be to become a Scientologist.



Sorry for the mini rant ... it wasn't my intention to derail this discussion.

This subject is of interest to me as both a practitioner and the fact that i am currently undergoing treatment myself..PM if you'd like to share your views a little more specifically with me...