Concealed Carry Revolvers

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Jim NE said:
There was a thread a while back complaining that SP101's might shoot a bit low, generally speaking. Don't know if this is generally true, but it's true of mine. It was suggested that this might be because they are sighted for .357 and most people use .38's most of the time. Mine, however, also shot low with the above mentioned .357's. Just something to consider.
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The front sight is easily swapped out. You can find plenty of replacements online if you need to change POI (or nite sights, or gold bead, or whatnot).
 
Count me in on the SP, also. I bought on in .357 right after they came out and haven't found anything I like better in the past 15+ years.
 
The front sight is easily swapped out. You can find plenty of replacements online if you need to change POI (or nite sights, or gold bead, or whatnot).
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Awesome! I don't like filing anything on a gun. Thanks for the info, sidheshooter.

One other thing to note: Very early versions of the Sp101 would only chamber .357 rounds that had shorter (lighter) bullets. 125gr. maybe? Can't remember, exactly. Anything made after the first year or two of production will chamber anything. I believe there is a warning stamped on those particular guns somewhere.
 
I carry a 3" Ruger SP101 IWB in spring, winter, and fall. It carries easily with a jacket or fleece on. In summer I carry a S&W 642 airweight in my front pocket. I forget it's there sometimes. 15 oz unloaded.
 
Huntolive said:
Just got permit, and want your recs. on good cc revolvers.
Want something that will knock down both a large man, and modest sized bear fast. Also live/hunt in snake infested area, but that is secondary consideration.
Have revolvers in 44Mag and 45LC already, but will consider other calibers.
What do you think of ultralight models by either Taurus, or Ruger (LRC or LCR)?
I am willing to cary something decent sized, if that is what it takes, but wouldnt' mind a good match of compact, lightweigth power.
Not looking to spend more than $600.

Thanks! Your advice may help save a life (and clean up some riff raff ;-)
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I would not associate either of those as being able to stop a large man or Bear. Stay with your .44 and look at the Charter Arms Bulldog.;)

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Leaning towards Ruger sp101 3" or LCR 357 but...

Thanks for great explanations!
Leaning towards sp101 3" or LCR 357, but am curious about 44 sp, as I will also have a 44Mag/44sp SBH for hunting and some ammo would be compatible. What are pros/cons of 44sp for cc?
What is the kick like on that 44sp sw 642, or sw mdl 624/24, or charter arms bulldog?

Should I just go small? And get a 38?
Remember, I do need real stoping power.

I know alot of people hate it, but does anyone like the Judge for my purposes? Which are: combo self defense trail and street gun, w/ potential for cc.
 
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beag_nut said:
"Look into a Charter arms Bulldog .44sp or Pug .357 great carry guns and pack power. "

Sorry, but the Pug, if you get the modern compensated barrel, isn't any good with shot capsules for snakes, if that's what the intent is.
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I have a 4yr old 4" barrel and shoot the shot capsules all the time, what are you calling compensated barrel? To my knowledge charter has no compensated barrels.
 
Many of you have recommended sp 101. What is sp? Brand? Where do I find one? How much$
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Already answered in post 15.
It's made by Ruger.
They can usually be found new for around $450-475ish.
 
yeah I live in a state where you can fist pump more than you can carry concealed. Sucks for me I guess... but I'm part of the 2% here who do hunt!
 
When you say bear... do u mean Grizzly bear? If you do, then I would carry nothing less than a 44 magnum. To stop a man, a 357 will do the job with no problem what so ever. Top one is a Ruger LCR-22. The bottom one is a Ruger LCR 357. Both great revolvers.



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357 or 44 sp?

Thanks for advice everybody!

Ok, so I am looking for a rugged powerful trail and street cc revolver that can drop both a large man or a pissed off black bear. Might also like to be able to take an occassional deer with it within 50 yards, but would NOT be a primary hunting gun. For that I will have SBH or SRH 7.5" Ruger w/ scope.

I am pretty sold on either 357 or 44sp.
Looking at Ruger sp101 in 3 or 4" barrel; also 357 LCR.
And Charter Arms 44 bulldog, and S+W 296 or 642.

Better ideas???

Charter Arms 44 is cheap! How much $ for S+W 44?
How bad is kicK w/ these small 44sp's? Accuracy? Range?

Your pick?
 
I wouldn't want to explain why I carried a revolver big enough for bear in a self defense situation.

I carry the SP101 in .357 for my EDC.

My woods revolver is my .44 magnum in Ruger Super Redhawk.

I do have my SP101 even in the woods as a back up gun since I usually pocket carry it anyway. I just keep it where it always is. Because a bear gun by definition involves significant penetration, that by itself makes it a poor self defense option. You really can't consider self defense and bear defense in the same gun unless you wish to compromise both purposes. I think you are better off maximizing both purposes with two separate guns.

On the other hand, some consider a 10 mm and a .357 adequate for self defense and for bears. Not my choice, but many do go with that combination. For Idaho and the rare chance of coming across a grizzly, I wanted more than a .357. The .44 magnum isn't the absolute best defense for bears, but it is decidedly better than the .357 or 10 mm and I can handle a .44 fairly well.

The .454 Casull made my hand numb for 5 minutes after I tried it out in Ruger Super Redhawk. After I thought about it a couple of days, I decided against the .454 and went with the .44 magnum which you can load up to essentially .454 range. For bear, you want the biggest gun you can reliably handle.
 
So, is there a 44Mag that can also be a reasonable CC and and not rip your hand off?
I also remain curious about 44 SP ... which would be more controlable, and probably, much lighter and the CA Bulldog is pretty cheap.

Seems like if black are the only bears I am worried about, sp101 357 would be fine, and a better cc.
My wife will only let me get so many guns...

Could I (with training) reasonably take a deer with a 3 or 4" sp101 357 at 50 yards or less?
Or should I forget about that and go small with the 357 LCR Ruger?

Anybody like the 3" Judge for my purposes? One guy recommended the SW Governor , which is the same thing.
 
If you want to shoot a deer with it, get the 4" SP101. If carry is more your concern, get the 3".
 
Ok, so I am looking for a rugged powerful trail and street cc revolver that can drop both a large man or a pissed off black bear. Might also like to be able to take an occassional deer with it within 50 yards, but would NOT be a primary hunting gun. For that I will have SBH or SRH 7.5" Ruger w/ scope.
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Ruger GP100 with a 4" barrel would do everything you require.

It's not ideal for concealed carry, but I don't think anything small and light-weight is going to give you the power you're looking for.

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If I go with the sp101 357, how much extra advantage would the 4" give me in accurage/power/range over the 3"(if I want to have reasonable potential to ocassionally take a deer with it) ?

I can only get 1 more gun, and am balancing pro cc factor -vs- power and huntability.

Also want to hear more about 44sp for cc and trail gun.
 
If I go with the sp101 357, how much extra advantage would the 4" give me in accurage/power/range over the 3"(if I want to have reasonable potential to Ocassionally take a deer with it) ?

I can only get 1 more gun, and am balancing pro cc factor -vs- power and huntability.

Also want to hear more about 44sp for cc and trail gun.
 
S&W Airweight and the Ruger LCR would bet the revolvers that I personally would consider if I were to carry a wheel gun.

edit....didn't realize that the original poster wanted to take down a small bear.....the two pistols I listed above would probably not get the job done.
 
Also want to hear more about 44sp for cc and trail gun.
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If you are seriously thinking about a .44spl, you are either going to have to stick to the tame loads that an L frame sized gun will tolerate, or bump up to an N frame sized gun. N frame will be tougher to conceal, but will handle hot .44spl.
You may be able to hunt deer with some of the very hot .44spl loads from Buffalo Bore, but even then it's iffy.
You cannot load any of those hot loads into L frame sized guns, so if you want the Charter Arms, accept that it will be for carry and not for hunting.
If hunting with a .44 is that important to you, get an N frame and accept that it will be difficult to carry.
I think you may be trying to get one gun to do too many things.
 
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