Concealed means concealed

[Neverwinter]

How can they stand on their own? Ethics presuppose people interacting. One need not be a "strict deontological ethicist" to take note of what people actually do, and how they feel about it.

Ethics can tell you which values are in conflict in in a given situation--how do they tell you which of values you should choose as governing, and which as subordinate? That takes value judgment, and that's the job of individuals--or groups of them.

You said "My sense is that a higher percentage of those carrying illegally would ignore it than lawful carriers; if that's true, does that tell us something about the "rightness" of ignoring the sign?"
The merits of those who partake in the activity do not affect the merits of an activity, and making the assumption otherwise is fallacious. If the proportion of thieves is higher than the proportion of legitimate purchasers when it comes to people who do not stop for the doorman at retail stores, it doesn't have any bearing on the ethics of stopping for the doorman.

 

[gym]

Newsmax reports hundreds of references to attacks that were to be carried out in small groups of heavilly armed men, "commando style". In major malls, and the NYC subway system, That last one was mentioned severaltimes. So why don't we all just do what we think is right for us. My step son works in those tunnels, for the TA, so please stop bantering about things that other people should do, it''s starting to sound like an Obama press conference. Carry where you feel necessary, try to obey the law, as long as you feel comfortable and that's it.

 

[Loosedhorse]

the proportion of thieves is higher than the proportion of legitimate purchasers when it comes to people who do not stop for the doorman at retail stores, it doesn't have any bearing on the ethics of stopping for the doorman.

Interesting. Perhaps the high percentage of thieves engaging in thievery also has no bearing on the ethics of thievery--yet it would seem to mean something.

try to obey the law

Try? Only gamble what you can afford to lose. That about covers all the angles, I guess.

 

[buzzg]

Simple answer, I don't go to such stores/businesses and like some others here I seek out my CCW friends and inform them of the store/business policy. Eventually, those business people will get the idea. Or not.

 

[TexasRifleman]

Started off friendly enough but this one's gotten a bit too angry.