Concerning the rule about constructive tactics

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If you want good discussions, you can always go to the schools and their forums on the sites. Some have good forums on the sites. I think Firearms Training Associates has a forum. You might want to just click around a bit and find whatever you are looking for.

And did you ever wonder WHY you think you have to go to the schools and their forums, or the invitation-only, or the alum-only boards to have "good discussions?"

Do you think it could have anything to do with, say, things like a someone telling a certain nationally known instructor he didn't know what he was talking about when it came to running an AR-15?

Do you wonder why it is that many of us here lament the absence or nonparticipation of those same instructors who are now running their own forums exclusively instead of participating here any more- and why it was they left here?

Look- THR is an open board, S&T is an open forum. Anyone with an Internet connection can come here and read. Anyone who is a member can post. You don't have to be a graduate of XYZ Shooting School, you don't have to have an invitation from a Famous Instructor or be vetted by anyone to post here. This place is the equivalent of a one-room schoolhouse, with everything from kindergarten to graduate school running at the same time in the same place.

You want "good discussions" here? THEN START SOME. And participate in some, help make good discussions out of the ones that get off to a less than promising start. Moderators aren't the people who make this place run- MEMBERS are. It's in your court if you want "good discussions" here. Leave the done-to-death dead-horse topics alone. Leave the never-be-settled-in-a-million-years agument topics alone. Leave the movie script fantasy scenario topics alone. Take a look at the archives, read the stickies, stick to the rules, and have the kind of discussions you're looking for.

S&T caters mostly to the armed citizen. Not LEOs. Not the military. There are plenty of other places for the professionals to talk shop. We want to do our best to help plain ordinary citizens negotiate the minefields of going legally armed in public and conducting themselves properly. We have to be as inclusive as possible, because everyone has to start somewhere- no one is hatched knowing everything there is to know about CCW, the law of self defense, etc. And this is an open board, not invitation-only.

But there is no reason we can't be civil, can't try to help members who have legitimate questions or concerns, can't do our best to educate at every level that is appropriate to the individual member. There is no reason we can't have "good discussions" right here without having to go elsewhere to do it.

The staff here does their best to keep discussions on track, useful, focused, informative, and based in the real world. That isn't always possible, for various reasons. There aren't many of us on staff here. We have lives in the real world to keep up with, and moderating here is a volunteer job- and I can tell you, sometimes it seems pretty damn thankless.

"Good discussions" you say. OK- go to it!

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Believe me, I know what it's like to run a message board. I run another one dealing with another hobby of mine.

In any event, not all private school or alum forums are good just as not all the private instruction schools are good. However, some of the well-respected schools will put out quality info just as they put out quality instruction. I've seen some horrible schools and I will never take anything they say as useful.

But... if I know the instructor and I respect him and I have learned from him, you bet I will take his word more seriously than some random poster who is claiming something that is different. I won't dismiss outright but I will compare it with my paradigm.

The OP asked about all the various posts and what he can take from it and it seems the consensus is that you can take most of it with a grain of salt because everyone can be a mall ninja online and claim to have graduated from every single military SpecOp school and killed 100 men with his off-hand pinkie.

That's all most of us were saying. Be aware of your sources and read a lot and take the common themes you get and distill it down to the essence. In the end, you will find it pretty much boils down to the same general concept.

Self-defense tactics is not rocket science. It just takes patience and an open mind which will give you options in combat. People lose fights because they don't know what other options are out there.

If you don't know that you can slap someone's ear to disrupt their equilibrium, not to mention damaging their eardrum, well... then you will never do it intentionally in a fight. Same with eye gouges or fish hooks.

That's all I am saying. Nothing against this forum or any open forums but like you said, anyone can get on and say anything they want so don't take anything as gospel and do some diligent homework if this is something you really want to research.
 
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