Fred Fuller
Moderator Emeritus
If you want good discussions, you can always go to the schools and their forums on the sites. Some have good forums on the sites. I think Firearms Training Associates has a forum. You might want to just click around a bit and find whatever you are looking for.
And did you ever wonder WHY you think you have to go to the schools and their forums, or the invitation-only, or the alum-only boards to have "good discussions?"
Do you think it could have anything to do with, say, things like a someone telling a certain nationally known instructor he didn't know what he was talking about when it came to running an AR-15?
Do you wonder why it is that many of us here lament the absence or nonparticipation of those same instructors who are now running their own forums exclusively instead of participating here any more- and why it was they left here?
Look- THR is an open board, S&T is an open forum. Anyone with an Internet connection can come here and read. Anyone who is a member can post. You don't have to be a graduate of XYZ Shooting School, you don't have to have an invitation from a Famous Instructor or be vetted by anyone to post here. This place is the equivalent of a one-room schoolhouse, with everything from kindergarten to graduate school running at the same time in the same place.
You want "good discussions" here? THEN START SOME. And participate in some, help make good discussions out of the ones that get off to a less than promising start. Moderators aren't the people who make this place run- MEMBERS are. It's in your court if you want "good discussions" here. Leave the done-to-death dead-horse topics alone. Leave the never-be-settled-in-a-million-years agument topics alone. Leave the movie script fantasy scenario topics alone. Take a look at the archives, read the stickies, stick to the rules, and have the kind of discussions you're looking for.
S&T caters mostly to the armed citizen. Not LEOs. Not the military. There are plenty of other places for the professionals to talk shop. We want to do our best to help plain ordinary citizens negotiate the minefields of going legally armed in public and conducting themselves properly. We have to be as inclusive as possible, because everyone has to start somewhere- no one is hatched knowing everything there is to know about CCW, the law of self defense, etc. And this is an open board, not invitation-only.
But there is no reason we can't be civil, can't try to help members who have legitimate questions or concerns, can't do our best to educate at every level that is appropriate to the individual member. There is no reason we can't have "good discussions" right here without having to go elsewhere to do it.
The staff here does their best to keep discussions on track, useful, focused, informative, and based in the real world. That isn't always possible, for various reasons. There aren't many of us on staff here. We have lives in the real world to keep up with, and moderating here is a volunteer job- and I can tell you, sometimes it seems pretty damn thankless.
"Good discussions" you say. OK- go to it!
lpl
And did you ever wonder WHY you think you have to go to the schools and their forums, or the invitation-only, or the alum-only boards to have "good discussions?"
Do you think it could have anything to do with, say, things like a someone telling a certain nationally known instructor he didn't know what he was talking about when it came to running an AR-15?
Do you wonder why it is that many of us here lament the absence or nonparticipation of those same instructors who are now running their own forums exclusively instead of participating here any more- and why it was they left here?
Look- THR is an open board, S&T is an open forum. Anyone with an Internet connection can come here and read. Anyone who is a member can post. You don't have to be a graduate of XYZ Shooting School, you don't have to have an invitation from a Famous Instructor or be vetted by anyone to post here. This place is the equivalent of a one-room schoolhouse, with everything from kindergarten to graduate school running at the same time in the same place.
You want "good discussions" here? THEN START SOME. And participate in some, help make good discussions out of the ones that get off to a less than promising start. Moderators aren't the people who make this place run- MEMBERS are. It's in your court if you want "good discussions" here. Leave the done-to-death dead-horse topics alone. Leave the never-be-settled-in-a-million-years agument topics alone. Leave the movie script fantasy scenario topics alone. Take a look at the archives, read the stickies, stick to the rules, and have the kind of discussions you're looking for.
S&T caters mostly to the armed citizen. Not LEOs. Not the military. There are plenty of other places for the professionals to talk shop. We want to do our best to help plain ordinary citizens negotiate the minefields of going legally armed in public and conducting themselves properly. We have to be as inclusive as possible, because everyone has to start somewhere- no one is hatched knowing everything there is to know about CCW, the law of self defense, etc. And this is an open board, not invitation-only.
But there is no reason we can't be civil, can't try to help members who have legitimate questions or concerns, can't do our best to educate at every level that is appropriate to the individual member. There is no reason we can't have "good discussions" right here without having to go elsewhere to do it.
The staff here does their best to keep discussions on track, useful, focused, informative, and based in the real world. That isn't always possible, for various reasons. There aren't many of us on staff here. We have lives in the real world to keep up with, and moderating here is a volunteer job- and I can tell you, sometimes it seems pretty damn thankless.
"Good discussions" you say. OK- go to it!
lpl