Conservative Cir. Judges Against RTKBA

[M_Jagger]

The was no right to keep and bear arms in the Maryland Constitution of 1776. However, it did say that "a well-regulated militia is the proper and natural defense of a free government."

 

[legaleagle_45]

The people of Vermont didn't think much an individual right to keep and bear arms when they established the Vermont Constitution of 1784. The didn't even mention it in their Bill of Rights.

Errr, you linked New Hampshire, not Vermont.

1777 Vermont:

That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State -- and as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; and that the military should be kept under strict subordination to and governed by the civil power.

Vermont was governed as an independent republic and operated under the 1777 Constitution until 1792 when it formally became the 14th state. It was recognized as such, sending ambassadors to France and to the United States, coining its own money and running its own postal system. Vermont was composed of an area of disputed land grants of the colonies of both New Hampshire and New York...

So regardless of how you spin it, you are in error.

Totally irrelevant point, however. In point of fact, of all the suggested additions to the Bill of Rights, the right to keep and bear arms had more supporters from the various states than any other single provision of what became the Bill of Rights..

And just as a parting shot... the people of New Hampshire did not think much about the prohibition on the establishment of religion.. from your link:

VI. As morality and piety, rightly grounded on evangelical principles, will give the best and greatest security to government, and will lay in the hearts of men the strongest obligations to due subjection; and as the knowledge of these, is most likely to be propagated through a society by the institution of the public worship of the DEITY, and of public instruction in morality and religion; therefore, to promote those important purposes, the people of this state have a right to impower, and do hereby fully impower the legislature to authorize from time to time, the several towns, parishes, bodies corporate, or religious societies within this state, to make adequate provision at their own expence, for the support and maintenance of public protestant teachers of piety, religion and morality:

 

[legaleagle_45]

Who won the election?

Not the person I chose, but I still exercised my individual right to choose.

 

[legaleagle_45]

The was no right to keep and bear arms in the Maryland Constitution of 1776.

Irrelevant.

In the North Carolina Constitution of 1776, the "right to bear arms" was a collective right and it was only for the defense of the state, not of the individual.

Irrelevant, even if true.

 

[Poor East Texan]

Who won the election?

I absolutely REFUSE to except any blame! I didn't vote for him!

Here on the first day of the first year of our lord and savior the Obama! NOT!

 

[Jeff White]

180 posts on individual v. collective rights is enough. In case you guys haven't heard there was a USSC decision in June that established an individual right to keep and bear arms, separate from membership in a militia. So why are we wasting bandwidth going back and forth on decided law?