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Contender caliber selection

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by NYmonster?, Dec 9, 2007.

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  1. NYmonster?

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    Looking to buy a contenter for tree stand hunting next season, I use to have a savage striker .308. Had a red dot on it did'nt like it, and sold it. Wish I did'nt. What caliber contender would be optimum for deer up to 150 yards. Where I live it's shotgun only. I don't know to much about rifle calibers and would'nt be reloading myself . I would just be buying loads off the shelf . One person recommended 35 rem, and another guy recommended 30/30 or 45long. Thanks for the help.
     
  2. Javelin

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    Hands down the .308 is best hunting round for North America (Unless you have alot of money for many specialized calibers and expensive bullets, and reload).

    Its ballisic coefficient is basically the same as the 30-06 for all practical purposes.
     
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    Inside of 150 yards, 35 Remington is hard to beat. It's got more thump than a 308 and works better in shorter barrels.

    ETA - I'm actually really partial to intermediate chamberings, and would make mine 6.8SPC. But that's just me, and I also handload.
     
  4. Kimber1911_06238

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    if where you live is shotgun hunting only do you want a contender barrel for target shooting?
     
  5. NYmonster?

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    You can hunt with a handgun, but not a rifle. Also to add to my questions what lenght barrel would work the best. I would be adding a 2x scope ,also a bipod
     
  6. john1911

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    Check the regs regarding cartridge legality where you live. Here in IL, we are basically limited to "handgun" cartridges (i.e. .44 mag, .41 mag, .357 mag etc.).
     
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    there are some members here who have posted pics of deer shot with a .30-30 contender barrel. I know that worked well for them.
     
  8. mighty2

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    ? 460

    What about the 460 with a 15" barrel?
     
  9. TheShootist1894

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    Here In Ohio. . .

    We are held to only shotgun, ML, or pistols

    The pistols may be in any centerfire cartrige >.380 Dia, and a minimum barrel length of 5" is required, that being said all cartriges MUST be straight walled, with no length contraints, therefore my buddy always looking for more recoil, and loopholes in Hunting Regs. . .
    He set up an Encore in 45-70 with a TC custom Shop 12" barrel with 1.5" Muzzle Tamer, actually not bad to shoot. . .

    This is just one option. . .
     
  10. wdlsguy

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    A 15" Encore in .243, 7mm-08 or .308 should do the trick. ;)
     
  11. Okiecruffler

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    Out to 150yrds, Don't dismiss the 44mag, especially out of a 14" barrel. My choice would be a 30 or 357 herrett, or a 30-30AI, but you'd have to reload of pay someone bukoo bucks to reload for you.
     
  12. KI.W.

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    Not so bad; .357 Rem Maximum. I have 14" barreled with G2 mechanism.
     
  13. redneck2

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    Here in Indiana we have the same deal. Pistols in any caliber .357 mag or greater. I use a .357 Herrett with a 2.5x8 Weaver scope. As noted, the Herrett is handload only. The .35 Rem is very close, available over the counter, and is extremely popular here. For your needs it perhaps your best choice. That's what I'd get.

    After lots and lots of looking, I got the Weaver scope for the Contender. My rifles have Burris, Leupold, or B&L's. Got the suggestion from a guy that owns a gun shop and shoots Contenders in lots of competitions (IMSHA). The Weaver has the best eye relief, excellent clarity, and is one of the lower priced ones out.
     
  14. KI.W.

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    Mr Redneck2, how much stronger .357 Herret/.35 Rem

    are than my .357 Rem Max. My ordinary loads T/C G2 14" barreled: 158 Hornady HPXTP N-110 21gr Rem case oal 1,9" 2114 fps and oal 2" 2040 fps. :confused:
     
  15. irishvet

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    I took my first buck with a TC in 35 Rem., 14" hunter barrel and a 4x scope. I was in a tree (not a stand) and took him at about 100 yards. It was a great gun. Just practice with you gloves on!! I didn't and hit the buck in the neck, but he dropped DRT!!:what: Have fun.
     
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    You don't see a big difference between the 357 max and the herrett until you start pushing the heavier bullets. Even then the deer probably won't notice. I just started to shoot the max out of a custom 10 inch barrel and it's quite impressive.
    Another thing to think about in the 35rem is misfires. T/C has had a problem at times with chambers out of spec which causes misfires unless the case is sized to the chamber. Definately a hard hitter.
    A couple of other choices if you're looking for a thumper are the 375 win and the 444 marlin, my personal favorite, but not for the meek.
     
  17. KI.W.

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    I am thinking break open guns like T/C Contender and G2, likes rimmed cases. But I have .223 Rem and 9mm Luger with no problems.
     
  18. critter

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    I have an older Contender super 14" in 30-30 Win. I have found it VERY effective for whitetail. It will shoot a 100 yard group under 5/8" when I can. I use reloads with 125gr Nosler BT's over a good charge of IMR 4198. (I'm not running burn-blast-n-blind loads here.)

    I have killed deer from 5 yards to 175 yards. PLENTY of penetration, plenty of damage to the target and good, clean kills. Most were dead when they hit the tracks they were standing in.

    I hunt from a stand and am careful about shot placement with it and I am not a quick shooter with it.

    Not saying this is the best for you as the other calibers will work fine too. However, this one has worked well for me.

    Good luck-handgun hunting is a real blast!
     
  19. redneck2

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    Accuracy of the Contender seems to rival a very good bolt rifle. Operator error tends to be the biggest question, at least in my case. I got a LOT of different bullet weights at a blow out sale for $3 a box. Bought something like 18 boxes, every one they had. Some were 110 grain, and they even shoot extremely well.

    The Maximum is just a little shorter than the Herrett. In the real world, I suppose the difference is very little. Remember that a 10% increase in powder typically gives a 2 1/2% increase in velocity.

    The Herrett is a .30-30 necked up to .35 and shortened .200. It's been a long time since I chrono'd mine, but IIRC I was getting about 2,200 with a 160 grain. I'd have to check my records to make sure. These were about middle of the recommended load range.

    In any event, there are a number of rounds that will work. There is no one right answer, but a number that will work fine. Right before deer season my local shop gets 25-30 boxes of .35 Rem, and we can't hunt with rifles here. They're all for Contenders. You could find .30-30 anywhere.

    I know some guys don't want to reload, but you might consider starting. I'd get a nice simple single stage for rifle. You can pay for your entire set-up with the first 2 boxes (40 rounds) of ammo you'd buy retail. We go through that easily in one sitting. As you can see, a lot of the guys here reload.
     
  20. ratgunner

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    My vote goes for the 7-30 Waters.
     
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    Guess I'll break the trend here. Given the distances you want to hunt, I would opt for the Encore in 7-08 Rem. JMHO. I have owned and fired several T/Cs, both Encore and Contender, and like both. Yes, the 7-30 Waters is good, but the 7-08 is better. In my 7-08, I used 120 grains handloads. Accuracy was exceptional. T/C does have a 1" guarantee for handloads at 100 yards, so if you're not grouping well, something is wrong, and it likely is not the pistol. Use quick-release rings and have a 2.5-7 scope and a nice reddot and your set.

    Doc2005
     
  22. redneck2

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    He wants over the counter factory loads. Again, any of the .35 Rem, .30-30, or 7-08 would work fine. Once you get a 150 grain bullet moving at 2,000 fps, the deer won't care what the case looked like.
     
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    I would go with the Encore and a 15" .243 barrel.

    2nd choice would be a 25/06 barrel.

    :cool:
     
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    I have the same and get the same results on paper. Though I do not hunt, I would not hesitate to use this model and caliber should I decide to. The accuracy is incredible with every factory load I've tried.
     
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    Is this specific to the Contender or does/did it affect Encore barrels as well? Any links?
     
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