Contractor Shooting Package Another AAR

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From another shooter:

You guys were right - work was weird. I kept on missing the weight of my rifle while I was walking in the BX, and wondering why nobody was armed during the morning brief. If I hadn't had those two days to do my paradigm shift, today could have been ugly.

Erica - excellent pictures - very impressive. Please keep them coming.

Abreviated AAR - more to follow, but here's my first few thoughts.

Fundamentals I Learned.

Live as a Team, Die as a Team - Working as a Team, Communicating as a Team, Thinking as a Team, all driven home over the course. We are only as strong as the weakest member. If you want to be on a PSD, you have to be a team player and carry your share of the load.

When its least expected, you're elected. If you've got a team in a fight without a plan, someone needs to step up and get a plan going. It doesn't have to be absoloutly right, but it has to be implemented absoloutly right now.

Army/Marine Core appreciation week - some people live this life, running around in full gear every day, all day. Tougher than it looks.

Combat is Chaos. The best way to regain control is with rapid, overwhelming fire on the enemy coupled with a clear plan and good communication. Un**** the situation by killing the dudes who started it and anybody who wants some - in plain speak.

Good communication is nearly impossible under stress - people will default to Grunt Speak - "Move" "Shoot" "Smoke" "Contact Left". Be proficient with grunt speak.

If you get into a fight - that is the culmination of years of conscious and unconscious preparation. Everything you did up to then, from how you cleaned your gun to what you thought of on the bus last week, to what your physical conditioning is, is a piece of the puzzle. How did you prepare?

Things I Learned not to do.

I am not allowed to have accelerants on the range, lest I be tazed.

We are not allowed to tape accelerants to flares.

The above two will make Yeager unhappy, and nobody wants that.

Buy AR's. They work great until they get pretty dirty. Then they become Jam-Tastic.


Tactics: Almost everything was new to me, excluding what I learned from fighting rifle. The Box vs The Diamond was new and valuable in particular. Bailing out of a vehicle was an eye opener with all that gear on as well. Team communication was again a huge learning experience - I'm used to a much quieter environment to communicate in.

Gear:

I learned a lot about gear, but in the end, it boils down to this...

I need an AK (Thanks Jay, Gomez, Nomad 2nd for all your advice). My AR worked, after I got tips from 3 seperate people (Nomad 2nd again, Hanley, and Templar I think) on cleaning it and keeping it running. The AK's in the class ran a lot better.

Overall, gear is nice and easy to talk about, but I'd rather have one person with the right mindset backing me up than some dude with all sorts of wizz-bang gear but the wrong mindset.

To all the guys (and Erica) who made HRCC-Shooting such a good experience for me, thank you. I'll be in touch.

- the Magic Man


ICBMs, the FINAL word in stopping power.
 
Got to agree with the ICBM's...

I am envious... and those of you heading out. Please be safe...
 
Hmmm instead of buying an AK, why not get one of the new piston uppers for the AR-15, word on the street is that they make the AR-15 much much more reliable. I'm buying my AR-15 in the next month and it's going to be one of the DS Arms Piston upper based AR-15s.
 
Or you can go for the AR-180B, the AK of AR's. Stupidly reliable with any kind of ammo you can feed it.

Nomad/Magic Man/Anyone else out there: From looking at the pictures I saw several folks wearing either Safariland 6004 thigh rig holsters, or the Blackhawk Serpa thigh rigs. A rather hot debate at work has centered around the reliability of those to holsters, with a story of an AD/ND occuring the Serpa. Did anyone have any issues with those models in the all the munk and dust?

Odds of me getting that grubby at work are rather low, but the one time I do and need my weapon I don't want any worries.

Thanks,

-Jenrick
 
Try sprinting 800 yards with one of those - that'll tell you all you need to know.
 
All I can say is I wouldn't go Serpa...

And several of the guys with them are switching.


6004 is the best I know of.
 
thanks for the aar, why not the serpa's and what type of thigh rig do you suggest in the place? i have a serpa paddel and it has worked out great so far. tell me the scoop please!
 
Trigger finger... also not as sturdy... moves around more than the 6004.

I have 3 6004's

Get one with a light.

Military discount is ~50%
(I got 2 for $140 delivered)
 
Trigger finger... also not as sturdy... moves around more than the 6004.

I have 3 6004's

Get one with a light.

Military discount is ~50%
(I got 2 for $140 delivered)
who makes the 6004's and where did you get that type of discount thanks!
ok i see safariland, butstill the discount info please!
 
AndyC: Done that. Did the obstalce course after that. Still prefer it over a straight belt mount. Though if I can find a good belt drop holster (like the SAS used in the Iranian embassy takedown, but for a Glock) I'd probably go for that.

possum: There have been reports that the serpa can start to lock up when grit gets into the release mechanism, from the outside of the holster. There have been stories rolling around (including one verfied account), that the extra pressure needed to get the release to activate when it gets gummed up, caused an AD/ND when the weapon was drawn. Argueably this is a case of failing to keep the finger off the trigger, but considering if you have to mash the release right over the trigger guard and yank I can see where you might get your finger in their unintentionally.

Nomad: Bout what I expected. Had also heard that particulate matter can get into the SLS system on the 6004. Heard from fairly reliable sources that the SEALS used the older 3004's becuase it was next to impossible to gum up with even powder beach sand in wave action. Was curious if the mud pit it looked like you guys were working in had given any problems. Thanks.


-Jenrick
 
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