Converting Martini?

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andym79

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38-55
40-70
405w
44-40
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444
45lc
450m

of the two the 30-40 or 40-70 being the most suitable based on rim size, thickness and length. The 40-70 would be interesting and close to my desired 40-65. Brass might be a pain to get though!

All of the suggested cartridges for the 303 martini conversion have similar rims, what needs to be modified apart from a new barrel to accomodate different rim sizes?
 
If that 450m is supposed to mean .450 Marlin, I believe it is belted rather than rimmed.

If I'm understanding that you have a Martini in .303 British, I wouldn't convert it to any of these. .303 hangs out right around that area of .308 Win performance which is a very versatile round and relatively common. You didn't list any reasons for doing this or what you hope to achieve, but most of the rounds listed seem far less useful to me.
 
Reid Coffield wrote a series of articles on converting a Martini in Shotgun News awhile back. You can get the series through the Shotgun News Gunsmithing Projects compilation book which also has a bunch of other projects as well.

One thing, make sure that your Martini is not a Nepalese copy before conversion because the Gahendra copy might have dubious metallurgy.
 
A .444 Marlin isn't rimmed either.
If you have a Martini in .303 British in decent condition, it's far to valuable to alter. However, in Australia, maybe especially in Australia, finding a barrel for a Martini will not be easy. Certainly not cheap.
 
Do you have any purpose in mind or are you just changing it for the heck of it? I think .303 sounds like the most versatile chambering from your list unless you've got some specific use you are adapting it to.
 
Are there any restrictions or whatever on 'military' chamberings in Oz, or are you free to choose the best option available? On a related note, is your list the most common chamberings available to you, or just personal preference? I understand certain things (specific bullets, brass, barrels, and dies) are very hard to come by down under, and I assume others are plentiful.

If you want a black powder thumper, I'd say a 45-XX or even 50-XX would be pretty cool. Sort of a buffalo gun, basically.

For more of a hunting/target gun, I'd suggest picking whichever of the identical WWII 30-cal centerfires is most common and rolling with it (7.62x54r, 8mm Mauser, 7mm Mauser, 30-06, 308, 7.5x55, 7.5x54, 7.35x51, 7.7x58, and I think like six or seven others, all with essentially identical performance/ballistics as far as you & your rifle are concerned). Obviously some prudence is required when choosing options for a smokeless conversion, but the Martini-Henry is at least one of the stronger black powder actions (I'm guessing only the true falling block Sharps & Farquharsons are stronger, and they're overkill for practically everything survivable by a human shooter)

What cartridge ruled the ranches in Australia back in wilder times? That might be a practical and historical option. Me, here in the States? I'd do 45-70 or 50-90, but those have special nostalgia that I can only assume is present in different chamberings over on the far side of the Earth :)

For barrels, you'd be much, much best served by going with a new blank and having a machinist contour, thread, and ream it for you. I'm not sure what sort of options you have, but again, that will have to factor in. In the US, we're blessed with Green Mountain, who somewhat recently began selling unfinished rifled blanks in multitude calibers to individual purchasers (as opposed to manufacturers) and has made projects like yours much more affordable.

TCB
 
If it is a .303--threads of the receiver may--I stress may be compatible with SMLE barrels. Reid Coffield's Shotgun News project was mating a Martini receiver and buttstock with a smle (No. 1, Mk. 3) barrel which should be available in Australia. I just checked the article and yes, both barrels shanks are threated with 14 "V" thread per inch and major diameter of right at 1 inch.

He also mentions these conversions were done in Canada and fairly often in Australia post WWII until the early 1950's. His article is title "Enfield? Martini? or Both?" Pt. 1 and Pt. 2. His articles give some helpful project tips on the Martini whether or not you do his particle project.
 
I'm a little confused as well. A .303Brit chambered Martini-Enfield sounds like a lovely gun just as it is. Or is the barrel badly corroded or shot out?

Seeing that you're keen on the 40-65 I'm guessing that you like shooting classic style guns. If that's the case and if the present barrel is hooped for some reason then is there anyone in Aus' that can bore out, re-rifle and chamber the present barrel?

If the present barrel is OK have you thought about playing around with cast bullets with paper patching? That opens up a whole other option of cheap home casting instead of having to buy those fancy dandy copper jacketed things.... :D
 
Andy!?

Help us understand why?! Is there something wrong with said .303? Do you have specific plans or purposes for said rifle? Is there something the .303 is falling short on?
 
Nothing is wrong with the 303 cartridge, just the barrel is in poor shape! I figured if it needs a rebarrel why not into something more interesting!
 
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