Countries with similar gun laws to the US?
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Mohawk
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I think Afghanistan has the most liberal gun laws in the world. Basicly there are no laws. Anyone can have any gun they can get their hands on. I don't think there are any laws concerning confiscation either. If you can take it away from someone else, it's your's to keep.
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Nothing special to you--but to me, here in the States, it's pretty weird...and sad.
I mean, really. Need a license to watch TV. That's just silly.
all European countries will require registration to comply with the EU directive that takes effective in 2010.
to my knowledge handguns and SLRs are available throughout Europe (except Great Britain) but all countries require registration with the exception of the Swiss 2nd hand market.
I WISH we had an organisation like the NRA in the US, IANSA will continue pushing anti-gun legislation across Europe.
interestingly the Czech Republic and Lithuania allow CCW among civilians.
Here in Luxembourg we can buy whatever we want so long as it's not full automatic.
Regards,
Paul
to my knowledge handguns and SLRs are available throughout Europe (except Great Britain) but all countries require registration with the exception of the Swiss 2nd hand market.
I WISH we had an organisation like the NRA in the US, IANSA will continue pushing anti-gun legislation across Europe.
interestingly the Czech Republic and Lithuania allow CCW among civilians.
Here in Luxembourg we can buy whatever we want so long as it's not full automatic.
Regards,
Paul
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Cool.. So, they have any good deals on condos in Kabul? I heard Kabul Hilton is really a nice place to stay. The rooms don't have phones, but an AK47 is always available at request, for small fee of course. I guess I don't have to worry about finding a shooting range, since you can pretty much just shoot at anyone or anywhere.
Isn't Luxembourg wone of those European tax havens? are you part of EU? Did yo usay you are free to buy any type of gun you want in Luxembourg? Really a beautiful country, hope to see it one day. I suppose CCW isn't happening over there, right? If you don't have the immigrant problem that UK has, perhaps its not as big of a deal.
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Lykoris said:
G.A.Pster said:
Why bother starting a thread with a question if you don't read the answers?
Last I understood, Luxembourg was considered "civilized".
ByAnyMeans
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I was in Luxemburg when I was visiting my brother who was serving in Germany. It's a beautiful country and great friendly people. I forget the details but I have a picture of a plaque that still hangs in this Luxemburg town detailing and thanking
American soldiers that liberated them during WWII.
American soldiers that liberated them during WWII.
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Aside from Mexico which obviously honors their Constitution
I have yet to see or hear of a country that can't have their gun privileges removed with a simple vote or stroke of a pen.
I guess I will stay here and fight for what has been the last great hope for over 200 yrs.
I have yet to see or hear of a country that can't have their gun privileges removed with a simple vote or stroke of a pen.I guess I will stay here and fight for what has been the last great hope for over 200 yrs.
CoRoMo
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The laws in Texas are similar to the laws in the USA.
gun addict
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seriuosly? I mean, seriuosly? Has no one on here mentioned FINLAND yet?
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The RKBA provision in the Mexican Constitution is practically meaningless. It basically says that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed unless the government feels like it.
mordechaianiliewicz
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Switzerland. Yemen. Bolivia. Not TOO bad. America has some weirdness to our laws, but overall maybe only Switzerland comes close to the firearms freedom we enjoy. And, just like here, there are authoritarians who are trying to screw with their RKBA.
to answer your questions
a 'tax haven' isn't a term I like to use - we have banking secrecy and favourable(Brit spelling) tax rates like so many other countries.
Luxembourg is one of the founding members of what has now become the E.U.
yes, we are free to buy whatever we want here in Luxembourg, Uzi, MP5, .50cal rifles, .50AE Deagle etc. I even laughed when I saw this recently in a local armory, a kit to transform a glock into a 'carbine'
http://armurerie.lu/Produits/produits_details.asp?ID=1489
Although what I find very funny is if you type Luxembourg and handgun into google you will find numerous references(certain NRA literature) that states everything is banned and civilians are not allowed to possess firearms - nothing could be further from the truth and whilst everything is registered we can buy anything so long as it's not full auto with no limit on the number of firearms you buy, it's the same liberty in terms of choice as the Swiss 'currently' enjoy. I'm looking to get a HK417 and have it converted to semi-auto.
CCW isn't happening over here (most unfortunate) - in many ways I firmly believe the U.S. has the right idea regarding CCW. Evidently like other European countries there are certain circumstances were you can carry
- if your life is in immediate danger and you possess conclusive evidence that demonstrates this threat, in practice however no amount of evidence is sufficient to convince the minister of justice to sign off on a CCW permit
- if you are a licensed bodyguard but only when on assignment you are entitled to carry.
interestingly enough though all members of the government's prosecution service (lawyers, members of the court, judges etc.) are given the option of CCW automatically and many avail of this possibility.
immigrant problem, not on the scale of the UK given the language complexity and the severity of the authorities here, essentially zero tolerance. That being said an estimated 10,000 illegal immigrants from eastern europe are said to come to Luxembourg every year. Most work on the black market but a significant minority are career criminals. There is a notable trend since I came to live/work here in 2002 of increased violence. Thankfully we have the right to use a firearm in self-defense of our property/family - unsurprisingly the burglary rate is (in my opinion as a result of this deterrent) rather low (firearm will be licensed under target shooting/hunting - no license issued on the basis of self-defense).
byanymeans
yes, there is also an American cemetery dedicated to U.S. soldiers just outside the city, a 5min drive (Luxembourg government pays for its upkeep and it's always in perfect condition) that fell while liberating Luxembourg from Nazi Germany and many plaques throughout the city to honour(again Brit spelling) their sacrifice, also statues/street names. It is at times incredible to think that only 64 years ago Europe was ravaged by its 2nd world war with such a horrendous loss of life.
The Swiss face a referendum quite soon and part of it is a universal license system so even their current 2nd hand market will end up being licensed if the anti-gun brigade win - they are also looking to ban pump action/semi-auto shotguns alongside a host of other meaningless measures.
I'd strongly advocate you all to continue fighting for your 2nd amendment rights because in being complacent you'll end up losing the continuous battle against the likes of IANSA.
What I find most discouraging in Europe is people don't give a dam and are totally complacent, they seem to ignore the ongoing anti-firearms legislation that is coming up every year. The largest organisation(Brit spelling again) is FACE, it represents 7m hunters across the E.U but no organisation represents 'all' forms of shooting with a population base of 380m I'm surprised an NRA equivalent in Europe doesn't exist. It's disheartening to say the least when you observe the apathy among fellow shooters.
All the best,
Paul
a 'tax haven' isn't a term I like to use - we have banking secrecy and favourable(Brit spelling) tax rates like so many other countries.
Luxembourg is one of the founding members of what has now become the E.U.
yes, we are free to buy whatever we want here in Luxembourg, Uzi, MP5, .50cal rifles, .50AE Deagle etc. I even laughed when I saw this recently in a local armory, a kit to transform a glock into a 'carbine'
http://armurerie.lu/Produits/produits_details.asp?ID=1489
Although what I find very funny is if you type Luxembourg and handgun into google you will find numerous references(certain NRA literature) that states everything is banned and civilians are not allowed to possess firearms - nothing could be further from the truth and whilst everything is registered we can buy anything so long as it's not full auto with no limit on the number of firearms you buy, it's the same liberty in terms of choice as the Swiss 'currently' enjoy. I'm looking to get a HK417 and have it converted to semi-auto.
CCW isn't happening over here (most unfortunate) - in many ways I firmly believe the U.S. has the right idea regarding CCW. Evidently like other European countries there are certain circumstances were you can carry
- if your life is in immediate danger and you possess conclusive evidence that demonstrates this threat, in practice however no amount of evidence is sufficient to convince the minister of justice to sign off on a CCW permit
- if you are a licensed bodyguard but only when on assignment you are entitled to carry.
interestingly enough though all members of the government's prosecution service (lawyers, members of the court, judges etc.) are given the option of CCW automatically and many avail of this possibility.
immigrant problem, not on the scale of the UK given the language complexity and the severity of the authorities here, essentially zero tolerance. That being said an estimated 10,000 illegal immigrants from eastern europe are said to come to Luxembourg every year. Most work on the black market but a significant minority are career criminals. There is a notable trend since I came to live/work here in 2002 of increased violence. Thankfully we have the right to use a firearm in self-defense of our property/family - unsurprisingly the burglary rate is (in my opinion as a result of this deterrent) rather low (firearm will be licensed under target shooting/hunting - no license issued on the basis of self-defense).
byanymeans
yes, there is also an American cemetery dedicated to U.S. soldiers just outside the city, a 5min drive (Luxembourg government pays for its upkeep and it's always in perfect condition) that fell while liberating Luxembourg from Nazi Germany and many plaques throughout the city to honour(again Brit spelling) their sacrifice, also statues/street names. It is at times incredible to think that only 64 years ago Europe was ravaged by its 2nd world war with such a horrendous loss of life.
The Swiss face a referendum quite soon and part of it is a universal license system so even their current 2nd hand market will end up being licensed if the anti-gun brigade win - they are also looking to ban pump action/semi-auto shotguns alongside a host of other meaningless measures.
I'd strongly advocate you all to continue fighting for your 2nd amendment rights because in being complacent you'll end up losing the continuous battle against the likes of IANSA.
What I find most discouraging in Europe is people don't give a dam and are totally complacent, they seem to ignore the ongoing anti-firearms legislation that is coming up every year. The largest organisation(Brit spelling again) is FACE, it represents 7m hunters across the E.U but no organisation represents 'all' forms of shooting with a population base of 380m I'm surprised an NRA equivalent in Europe doesn't exist. It's disheartening to say the least when you observe the apathy among fellow shooters.
All the best,
Paul
Shung
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just work alike over here... It's a kind of "privilege" of certain people...
not exactly. Our referendum is about getting our issued rifles back to the arsenal, instad of home, where they are now. Our 2nd hand market is already screwed. from 2009, we have to get a permit from the police, even when buying a 2nd hand gun from someone. This was to comply with the Schengen treaty and community we are now IN... :banghead:
they "only" want to ban pump actions, the "so called" very dangerous guns. (nobody was killed by a shotgun for a long time... but nevermind..) They have NO idea about semi-auto shotguns, or side by side 12 gauges, and they don't wanna ban those.. What scarces the **** out of them, is the PUMP.. no kidding.. That nasty pump really looks scary !
They also want to forbid "full auto" guns.. no matter if they are ALREADY FORBIDDEN by our actual law.. Only collectors can get them through an exceptional authorisation and permit. Again, nobody was ever killed for a long time with a legal full-auto gun.. Actually I couldnt find even one im my research. Nevermind, they want to get rid of those..
But we won't keep our mouths shut. We will politically fight, and hopefully WIN !
Hi Shung,
I've read quite a lot about it and hope it is defeated. I know the 'main' argument is the removal of the service rifle from homes due to the suicide risk...but what I think is completely underhanded is that there is a host of other measures they wish to bring in also.
They seem to be selling it to the Swiss public on the basis of 'removal of the service rifle' and the Swiss press is reporting it as such - nothing I read recently talks about the other measures unless a member of the public goes to the likes of the protell site.
I also found the report given out by the socialist party extremely worrying for Swiss firearms rights...it's roughly a 34 page document detailing everything they mean line by line of the proposed new legislation. If you haven't read it I will put up the link. It reads as if someone from the gssa group was contracted out to write it up.
fusil à pompe I understood to mean semi-auto also after reading the PS report.
Many said in 2007 when the cartridges for the service rifle were taken away from homes that the disarmament of Switzerland had begun, now two years later with the proposal of removing the service rifle I've only just understood what those commentators meant at the time.
I have always admired Switzerland as a true beacon of democracy and not a country dominated by two powerful political parties like so many European countries. A lot of power is given to cantons within the swiss federal system.
I sincerely hope it is defeated. The anti-gun lobbyists will not stop there, sig55X variants will be next on the list for civilian use after their service has finished and no doubt anything that remotely resembles a 'black' firearm.
All the best,
Paul
I've read quite a lot about it and hope it is defeated. I know the 'main' argument is the removal of the service rifle from homes due to the suicide risk...but what I think is completely underhanded is that there is a host of other measures they wish to bring in also.
They seem to be selling it to the Swiss public on the basis of 'removal of the service rifle' and the Swiss press is reporting it as such - nothing I read recently talks about the other measures unless a member of the public goes to the likes of the protell site.
I also found the report given out by the socialist party extremely worrying for Swiss firearms rights...it's roughly a 34 page document detailing everything they mean line by line of the proposed new legislation. If you haven't read it I will put up the link. It reads as if someone from the gssa group was contracted out to write it up.
fusil à pompe I understood to mean semi-auto also after reading the PS report.
Many said in 2007 when the cartridges for the service rifle were taken away from homes that the disarmament of Switzerland had begun, now two years later with the proposal of removing the service rifle I've only just understood what those commentators meant at the time.
I have always admired Switzerland as a true beacon of democracy and not a country dominated by two powerful political parties like so many European countries. A lot of power is given to cantons within the swiss federal system.
I sincerely hope it is defeated. The anti-gun lobbyists will not stop there, sig55X variants will be next on the list for civilian use after their service has finished and no doubt anything that remotely resembles a 'black' firearm.
All the best,
Paul
Yes, I do agree that it is all part of a slippery slope. First they take away the ammo. Now they want the guns! All under the pretext of safety.
Like they say, " they will not take away your hunting rifle. they will call it a sniper rifle first". "they will not take away your sporting handguns. they will call it a high capacity lethal handgun".
I wish more of the guys here could join Pro-Tell. I have done so as an act of solidarity with the Swiss and also to stop these antis
Like they say, " they will not take away your hunting rifle. they will call it a sniper rifle first". "they will not take away your sporting handguns. they will call it a high capacity lethal handgun".
I wish more of the guys here could join Pro-Tell. I have done so as an act of solidarity with the Swiss and also to stop these antis
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