CPL/CCW from MI to AZ, Permanent Relocation.

[silent_killer]

Is there a way to "transfer" my CPL from Michigan and acquire a CCW in Arizona. Or do I have to take the course and reapply for a new license once Im there?

I have researched this on the net, but I have not been able to find Solid information.

Thanks!

 

[Old Fuff]

If your Michigan license/permit is current, Arizona authorities will recognize it, but it really doesn't matter.

Because in Arizona nonresidents as well as residents can carry concealed weapons with no license or permits being required.

You are required to inform an officer if you have concealed weapons on or about your person, or in the driver area of a car, if for whatever reason you are stopped. You also cannot carry on or in private property if guns are prohibited, and it is clearly posted.

Oh, and welcome to the Sunshine State.

 

[Trebor]

Do NOT carry in Arizona on your Michigan CPL if you are actually moving to Arizona.

A Michigan CPL is only valid for Michigan residents. Once you have moved to Arizona, and are now longer just visiting or setting things up for the move, your Michigan CPL is no longer valid under Michigan law.

 

[Old Fuff]

What! I thought Florida was The Sunshine State! It's right on my license plate!

Oh darn!!! It was late and I should have gone to bed....

Oh well, Florida isn't to bad either...

 

[silent_killer]

Do NOT carry in Arizona on your Michigan CPL if you are actually moving to Arizona.

A Michigan CPL is only valid for Michigan residents. Once you have moved to Arizona, and are now longer just visiting or setting things up for the move, your Michigan CPL is no longer valid under Michigan law.

Correct! This I know. I want to get an AZ permit for a few reasons. I know that res and non res can carry with or without permits. I would like to actually have the permit because it allows a few more carry perks.

I'm just looking for info regarding possibly transferring my permit for an AZ one.

Thanks for the input fellas.

 

[Old Fuff]

Do NOT carry in Arizona on your Michigan CPL if you are actually moving to Arizona.

I presume that the O.P. will have a valid Michigan driver's license until he get a new Arizona one - which he must do within 6 months if he plans to stay. He must also re-register his car. Within this time period if he was carrying and presented a Michigan Drivers License to a police officer (or whoever) along with a Michigan CPL, both would be recognized as valid unless there was some reason not to.

But even so, none of that really matters - because in Arizona both residents and non-residents can carry concealed weapons with no permit or license what so ever. There are of course some limits and restrictions.

Producing a Michigan license isn't necessary, but it doesn't hurt to show that you're one of the good guys.

Incidentally, I haven't checked - but I believe that Michigan recognizes Arizona CWL's.

To add: You cannot transfer a Michigan license to obtain an Arizona one. You will have to go through the whole procedure (classroom instruction, written test, shooting qualification, background check, etc.) but if you did this in Michigan, Arizona shouldn't be too difficult. Also you can apply for and obtain an Arizona license before you have resident status.

 

[armoredman]

If you can provide proof of training as delineated in ARS 13-3112 http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/13/03112.htm&Title=13&DocType=ARS

6. Has ever demonstrated competence with a firearm as prescribed by subsection N of this section and provides adequate documentation that the person has satisfactorily completed a training program or demonstrated competence with a firearm in any state or political subdivision in the United States. For the purposes of this paragraph, "adequate documentation" means:...
...(d) An original or a copy of a concealed weapon, firearm or handgun permit or a license as prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 6 of this section...
N. An applicant shall demonstrate competence with a firearm through any of the following:...
6. A valid current or expired concealed weapon, firearm or handgun permit or license that is issued by another state or a political subdivision of another state and that has a training or testing requirement for initial issuance.

In short, if you had to attend training for your current permit then you should be good to go here, fill out the paperwork, money order for $65, two legible fingerprint cards, (all paperwork supplied by DPS upon request), and send it in.
I would encourage attending a training class to get used to the different laws, but it may not be necessary under our current law.
Welcome to Free AZ!

 

[silent_killer]

To add: You cannot transfer a Michigan license to obtain an Arizona one. You will have to go through the whole procedure (classroom instruction, written test, shooting qualification, background check, etc.) but if you did this in Michigan, Arizona shouldn't be too difficult. Also you can apply for and obtain an Arizona license before you have resident status.

Well this is a little inaccurate. I contacted the azdps.gov CCW branch regarding the issue, and I received this response not long ago:

"Yes, a copy of your Michigan permit does meet the training requirement for an Arizona permit.
Please provide us with your mailing address, so that an application packet with instructions can be sent to you."

AZ DPS
CCW

Also according to AZDPS website, if you have already been fingerprinted in another state, you do not have to be printed again.

I guess I kinda jumped the gun on asking the question here, as AZDPS answer my questions both electronically and verbally over the phone.

BTW, I will be heading out that way to get my license and register my vehicles before I make the move. I already own a house out there and have for a long time, I visit the state about once a month. This was just one of the things I was not well informed on. The big reason I am asking is because I am going to transfer my information down there to my AZ address, get a license and register/plate my vehicles BEFORE I physically move to AZ, because my house here is sold and that will become my legal domicile and residence. The reason I want to get a CCW permit is because even though residents and non residents can carry in AZ with or without a permit, you CANNOT in michigan. But Mich recognizes AZ permit. A Michigan permit with AZ license and plates wont do me much good, probably land me in jail and with some hefty fines. So if I have all my documents in order, then I will be on the safe side.

And yes I already have my taxes and the legal jamble figured out for residing in one state but working in another. I verified with two lawyers on how to go about this, really not too difficult. But the permit is a serious thing for me because it is required in Michigan.

Thanks for the input fellas!

 

[danez71]

There is no duty to inform an officer in AZ unless asked.

I have my AZ CWP because there are some perks such as (but not limited to) you can carry in a place that serves alcohol (still cant drink) and it speeds up the buying when you buy more handguns.