CQB 1x type sight w/o batteries?

[radd]

Hey,
I have a sks paratrooper, one with the slightly canted sights. I can hit a 8" plate with it at 50-75 yds ok. But I really want to drill and tap a choate scope mount on it and put a cqb type sight on it for quick aquisition. But I'm looking for something with little to no magnification that doesnt take batteries, that I can just throw up and shoot or take my time with, regular crosshairs will do it for me. Is there such a thing out there? All that I can find is the tacti-cool CR2032 eaters.

Thanks

 

[HorseSoldier]

How much are you looking to spend?

For $200-ish you can get one of the Russian PK-AS sights (think I got the nomenclature right). It has an illuminated dot (uses watch batteries) but also has a black dot with outer ring (like an EOTech reticle) for when you don't need the illuminated option. Seems like a pretty nice sight -- I haven't put any rounds through one on a rifle yet, but in handling them it seems rugged and pretty nice.

One issue that might or might not present itself with an SKS is that the scope is not parallax free, and need to be mounted (if I recall correctly) something like 3-5" eyerelief. Don't know if that would be an issue with putting it on an SKS or not.

 

[Omnivore]

Trijicon Reflex or Reflex II, or the Trijicon Tripower, model TX30. Both have illuminated reticles that use ambient light piped in through fiber-optics, and both have tritium for use in low light. The Tripower has the option of using a battery-powered diode also. I've used and like both, and never missed having battery power.

This issue has been pretty well eliminated in my opinion by the fact that the new Aimpoints can be left on for years before the power runs low- no need to reach for the switch if you never turn it off. Replace the tiny power cell once a year on New Years Day and forget about it.

 

[radd]

I didnt know the batteries would last that long in an aimpoint. Is that for all new models? I'll have to check into those.

I looked at the pk-as, it looks pretty nice.
I'll have to research both of those, thanks.

 

[SamTuckerMTNMAN]

drill and tap?

I highly recommend a see'through scope mount, generally available for around $50-$60 (with crap scope usually). From there you can put on whatever you want and still save the original receiver for resell or whatever, spare parts, etc. You can stick on there a holosight , or aimpoint, red or green dot, 4x scope, 9x ar scope, whatever fits your fancy - and STILL have the iron sights available under the sight system which is highly regarding in mountainous terrain or whenever your sighting system may be prone to damage, failure, battery problems, EMP, hard rocks, dropping, etc et c etc....

My SKS scope is dented from harsh treatment, dinged, scratched, and ugly, but it and the rifle just keep on ticking year after year. Good stuff.

Spare parts are important too

all MHO

ST

 

[Plink]

The only stable way to mount an optic on an SKS is by using the drill and tap side mounts. Receiver covers and gas tubes are about the worst places from a stability aspect. A scout mount would be stable if it attaches firmly to the barrel, rather than just being a gas tube mount. Of the receiver attached mounts, the Choate does make the most sense, in that it allows you to strip the gun without having to remove the mount like the ATI unit does.

There are also mounts that attach to the rear sight base. I have the Millett model on one of my SKSes and it has to be removed in order to remove the gas tube for cleaning. There's another, higher quality model out that can be easily removed and reinstalled without effecting the zero, but the name eludes me at the moment.

That said, unless you're willing to invest more money than the SKS is worth (I do that a lot! LOL) to buy a tritium/fiber optic sight, or get the Russian sight that HorseSoldier mentioned, about your only other real option are the battery powered units. If you're worried about the battery dying in a life or death situation, perhaps a scout mount that lets you cowitness the sights would be a solution? Me, I just toss on a cheap, decent parallax free battery powered sight and be done with it.

 

[radd]

I've been kickin this idea around for a while and between this forum, sksboards and surplusrifles.com have come to the conclusion that if your going to do it the drill and tap is the only real way, with the scout option a close second. I just dont think I would like it that far from my face though for whatever reason.
I like the choate mount, or even using the ak/svd side rail would be cool with that PK-AS (posp) scope. I'm kinda leaning the posp route. Still cheaper than the aimpoints that I looked at, and kinda keeps the sks theme Just gotta get the svd/ak side rail mount figured out.
Thanks all.

edit: as far as spending more than the sks is worth, have you seen what some of them are going for lately! I dont think that adding a rail would take much away from the value, IMHO most folks dont buy paras for safe queens. (not like I'm going to sell it anyway )

 

[Plink]

I can relate. I don't worry about collector value with my SKSes except 1 mint '51 Tula that remains stock. I don't intend to sell any either. I do get teased a lot for spending $500 on a $200 gun though.

To me it's not what you start out with, but what you end up with that matters. Good optics, a real trigger job and good ammo really make an SKS come alive. Enough to surprise the nay sayers at the range.

 

[Caimlas]

What I might suggest is getting a scoutscopes.com rear sight replacement mount and then getting a pistol scope for it, which has a longer eye relief. The longer eye relief will allow you to make faster snap shots with the SKS than you'd be able to make with a shorter eye relief scope, because it doesn't skewer your focal range as much.

Can't rightly think of/suggest any long-relief scopes that are black dot only and 1x magnification, but I'm personally looking at the Bushnell Trophy 2-6x32, which has an 18" eye relief and would be perfect for such an application, IMO. 2x isn't all that noticeably different from 1x, for the most part.

It might be more than the total cost of the rifle, but in my case it's a project gun and therefore I can justify the extravagance.

 

[tbeb]

I just bought a Scout Scopes, Inc. scout scope mount. I have not attached it to my SKS yet... Anyhow, this is the one that is mounted in place of the rear sight. It has a rear sight built into it, that can be used if you remove the scope. You can order this mount with a 3 1/2" rail or a 6" rail. Delivered cost for either is $62.15. I bought the 6". I am going to mount a short tube, battery operated, Leaper's Swatforce red/green dot scope. I probably don't need a 6" rail for that, but it will come in handy if I switch to an eer handgun scope such as the Bushnell Trophy 2-6x 32mm.

If you want the scope closer to your eye, then go with the Choate receiver mount, if it fits your budget.