Creedmoor Enhanced Press Head - Redding T-7

[jski]

Called Redding to ask a question about my T-7 and at the end threw in a quick question out the Creedmoor Enhanced Press Head for the Redding T-7.

He seemed very positive about it but said they (Redding) hadn’t done a “detailed test” yet. They’ve also heard good reports from those using it.

 

[Bat Rastard]

They look good. They say all the right things in their description.
Going forward, I would likely try one if I bought another turret. I am unlikely to replace the turrets I have though. I doubt I would be able to quantifiably measure the improvement.

Is quantifiably a word?

 

[Mauser fan]

Creed-more says it all.

Just a marketing tool to get those who are batty for anything so called new and improved.

The only thing different is what the tool head is made from. The old tool heads are made from cast iron and the new Creed-more enhanced tool head is made from stainless steel.

 

[jski]

Well, they’re sold out so someone’s buying and liking them. And they just introduced turret heads for the RCBS and Lyman turret presses.

 

[Varminterror]

Creed-more says it all.

Just a marketing tool to get those who are batty for anything so called new and improved.

The only thing different is what the tool head is made from. The old tool heads are made from cast iron and the new Creed-more enhanced tool head is made from stainless steel.

Here’s someone who has absolutely no idea who is Creedmoor Sports, which existed prior to the invention of it’s namesake 6.5 Creedmoor….

 

[SingleActionAndrew]

Which problem do I have and this solves?

 

[jski]

Here’s someone who has absolutely no idea who is Creedmoor Sports, which existed prior to the invention of it’s namesake 6.5 Creedmoor….

Based on this:

Creedmoor Sports, Inc.
167 Creedmoor Way
Anniston, AL 36205
Customer Support
[email protected]
Technical Support
[email protected]
1-800-CREEDMOOR
(800) 273-3366

I’d say it’s an offshoot of the Anniston Army Arsenal. Probably a machine shop started by ex-employees of the arsenal.

 

[LiveLife]

Careful what you post on internet forum.

Creed-more says it all ... Just a marketing tool to get those who are batty for anything so called new and improved.

Here’s someone who has absolutely no idea who is Creedmoor Sports, which existed prior to the invention of it’s namesake 6.5 Creedmoor….

Now your post is forever saved to the "cloud" for the world to see.

BTW, it's "Creedmoor" ... Not "Creed-more" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5mm_Creedmoor

6.5mm Creedmoor (6.5×48 mm) ... was developed by Hornady senior ballistics scientist Dave Emary in partnership with Dennis DeMille, the vice-president of product development at Creedmoor Sports, hence the name.​

 

[Varminterror]

Which problem do I have and this solves?

Reduced turret tilt.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

It sure looks pretty. But i see no need for it.

 

[Varminterror]

Based on this:

I’d say it’s an offshoot of the Anniston Army Arsenal. Probably a machine shop started by ex-employees of the arsenal.

Careful what you post on internet forum.

Now your post is forever saved to the "cloud" for the world to see.

BTW, it's "Creedmoor" ... Not "Creed-more" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5mm_Creedmoor

6.5mm Creedmoor (6.5×48 mm) ... was developed by Hornady senior ballistics scientist Dave Emary in partnership with Dennis DeMille, the vice-president of product development at Creedmoor Sports, hence the name.​

Most folks aren’t familiar with Creedmoor Sports, but they’ve been synonymous with elite precision shooting sports for decades - long before they ever dreamed up their own cartridge with Hornady.

My first introduction to Creedmoor would have been around 1998, borrowing a Creedmoor jacket from a Service Rifle Competition mentor, until I ordered my own around 2003 (having bought a lesser canvas Bushmaster jacket in between).

Their turret head options have been demanded by shooters to eliminate axle flex and turret tilt. Lots of folks modified their turret bushings to reduce slop, but these are a turnkey option. Is it necessary for every Joe with a turret press? No. Do some shooters appreciate the improvement? Absolutely.

 

[jski]

Most folks aren’t familiar with Creedmoor Sports, but they’ve been synonymous with elite precision shooting sports for decades - long before they ever dreamed up their own cartridge with Hornady.

My first introduction to Creedmoor would have been around 1998, borrowing a Creedmoor jacket from a Service Rifle Competition mentor, until I ordered my own around 2003 (having bought a lesser canvas Bushmaster jacket in between).

Their turret head options have been demanded by shooters to eliminate axle flex and turret tilt. Lots of folks modified their turret bushings to reduce slop, but these are a turnkey option. Is it necessary for every Joe with a turret press? No. Do some shooters appreciate the improvement? Absolutely.

Sounds like what Redding’s been hearing back.

 

[9mmepiphany]

Here’s someone who has absolutely no idea who is Creedmoor Sports, which existed prior to the invention of it’s namesake 6.5 Creedmoor….

Creedmoor Sports has been around a long time serving folks who like to shoot their rifles very accurately at long distances. I think I first heard of them back in the 1980s...so about 40 years ago.

If does speak to your interest in accurate rifle shooting when you presume that Creedmoor refers to the cartridge rather than the famous range founded in the 1870s for long distance rifle competition or the popular shooting position most recently seen in Metallic Silhouette shooting

 

[9mmepiphany]

It sure looks pretty. But i see no need for it.

I would think that it's target market would be folks drooling over the Zero Press from Area 419, but not ready to spend the coin it would take to acquire one

 

[jmorris]

He seemed very positive about it but said they (Redding) hadn’t done a “detailed test” yet. They’ve also heard good reports from those using it.

Did you order one and do you own two dial indicators? If so I have a little fixture I need to mail you so you can be the one to test the two side by side and quantify the difference between the two.

 

[Bat Rastard]

I would love to see the test results.

I am always curious as to how much overkill is enough.

 

[jski]

Did you order one and do you own two dial indicators? If so I have a little fixture I need to mail you so you can be the one to test the two side by side and quantify the difference between the two.

Thanks for the constructive sarcasm. If that’s what it was?

 

[Frulk]

If you REALLY like that look. As an alternative one could pull the head off the T7 and buff the heck out of it to a polished finish and in the process save some cash.

Then buy their T7 “upgrade kit” sans head with the Teflon washer and reinstall everything.

https://www.creedmoorsports.com/pro...t7-turret-press-upgrade-kit/reloading-presses

 

[jski]

If you REALLY like that look. As an alternative one could pull the head off the T7 and buff the heck out of it to a polished finish and in the process save some cash.

Then buy their upgrade kit sans head with the Teflon washer and reinstall everything.

Redding has done that and really liked it. Well, Ray at Redding has done that and liked it. But Ray does want to try/test the turret head. But Ray does want to try/test the Creedmoor turret head.

 

[Frulk]

For the straight walled pistol calibers I reload on the T7’s the performance enhancement this mod ‘might’ provide via less deflection, to me at least, is not worth the expense.

I do kinda like the stainless look however.

 

[jmorris]

Thanks for the constructive sarcasm. If that’s what it was?

No, not sarcastic at all. I am curious myself but don’t have a T7 and the new stainless turret, or I would do it myself. I do have a fixture that might allow you to test them yourself and I would send it to you, just to know the results.

How much of a difference it actually makes, is a legitimate question to want the answer to.

 

[jski]

This may help answer some of your questions:

 

[jski]

Yet another tutorial:

 

[tightgroup tiger]

No, not sarcastic at all. I am curious myself but don’t have a T7 and the new stainless turret, or I would do it myself. I do have a fixture that might allow you to test them yourself and I would send it to you, just to know the results.

How much of a difference it actually makes, is a legitimate question to want the answer to.

I agree with jmorris, I need to see the indicators checking the flex or lack thereof and the slop in the press head before I would say that it would be an improvement that may have some impact.

Yet another tutorial:

Even the video from Creedmore doesn't show any tests at all to prove the Creedmore turret head is any more accurate than the original Redding Turret or has any less flex. It isn't even mentioned.
They just say how smooth it is.
They made it out of 416 stainless, they tightened up the threads of the dies and added a groove for the detent ball to ride in, and added some more threaded holes for the handle. That's good!
But there is no talk about eliminating flex in the turret head or tightening the tolerance of runout of the finished rounds.
I wonder why?
I would have marketed that to the max if it existed, and marketing people go nuts in their claims ,even to the extent of making things up, but the lack of it makes me think they know they can't support that claim so they didn't go there.
I would think that when that teflon sticker wears out you would be worse off than when you started with turret flex and slop.

It does look nice though.

 

[jski]

I agree with jmorris, I need to see the indicators checking the flex or lack thereof and the slop in the press head before I would say that it would be an improvement that may have some impact.


Even the video from Creedmore doesn't show any tests at all to prove the Creedmore turret head is any more accurate than the original Redding Turret or has any less flex. It isn't even mentioned.
They just say how smooth it is.
They made it out of 416 stainless, they tightened up the threads of the dies and added a groove for the detent ball to ride in, and added some more threaded holes for the handle. That's good!
But there is no talk about eliminating flex in the turret head or tightening the tolerance of runout of the finished rounds.
I wonder why?
I would have marketed that to the max if it existed, and marketing people go nuts in their claims ,even to the extent of making things up, but the lack of it makes me think they know they can't support that claim so they didn't go there.
I would think that when that teflon sticker wears out you would be worse off than when you started with turret flex and slop.

It does look nice though.

Sounds like someone needs to call the Armory to ask about turret flex measurements.