CT Facing Tougher Laws Than NY
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Here's a copy of the bill http://www.cga.ct.gov/2013/TOB/S/2013SB-01160-R00-SB.htm
You want to buy ammo? Be prepared to spend $35 for an ammo purchase permit. And since you also have to have a background check, be prepared to pay the gun shop owner for his time.
You want to buy a long gun? Ditto
Among the new "assault weapons" is ANY center fire semi auto rifle, with a detachable magazine, less than 30" in length. They also specifically added the Kel-Tec Sub2000.
Here's the voteVote for SB-1160 Sequence Number 90
Taken on 4/3 PASS EMERGENCY CERTIFICATION
The following is the result of the vote at 6:38 p.m.:
Total Number Voting 36
Necessary for Adoption 19
Those voting Yea 26
Those voting Nay 10
Those absent and not voting 0
The following is the roll call vote:
Y
1
JOHN W. FONFARA
N
19
CATHERINE A. OSTEN
Y
2
ERIC D. COLEMAN
Y
20
ANDREA STILLMAN
Y
3
GARY LEBEAU
Y
21
KEVIN KELLY
Y
4
STEVE CASSANO
Y
22
ANTHONY J. MUSTO
Y
5
BETH BYE
Y
23
ANDRES AYALA
Y
6
TERRY B. GERRATANA
Y
24
MICHAEL A. MCLACHLAN
N
7
JOHN A. KISSEL
Y
25
BOB DUFF
N
8
KEVIN D. WITKOS
Y
26
TONI BOUCHER
Y
9
PAUL DOYLE
Y
27
CARLO LEONE
Y
10
TONI N. HARP
Y
28
JOHN MCKINNEY
Y
11
MARTIN M. LOONEY
Y
29
DONALD E. WILLIAMS, JR.
Y
12
EDWARD MEYER
N
30
CLARK J. CHAPIN
Y
13
DANTE BARTOLOMEO
N
31
JASON WELCH
Y
14
GAYLE SLOSSBERG
N
32
ROBERT J. KANE
Y
15
JOAN V. HARTLEY
N
33
ART LINARES
N
16
JOE MARKLEY
Y
34
LEONARD FASANO
Y
17
JOSEPH J. CRISCO, JR.
N
35
ANTHONY GUGLIELMO
You want to buy ammo? Be prepared to spend $35 for an ammo purchase permit. And since you also have to have a background check, be prepared to pay the gun shop owner for his time.
You want to buy a long gun? Ditto
Among the new "assault weapons" is ANY center fire semi auto rifle, with a detachable magazine, less than 30" in length. They also specifically added the Kel-Tec Sub2000.
Here's the voteVote for SB-1160 Sequence Number 90
Taken on 4/3 PASS EMERGENCY CERTIFICATION
The following is the result of the vote at 6:38 p.m.:
Total Number Voting 36
Necessary for Adoption 19
Those voting Yea 26
Those voting Nay 10
Those absent and not voting 0
The following is the roll call vote:
Y
1
JOHN W. FONFARA
N
19
CATHERINE A. OSTEN
Y
2
ERIC D. COLEMAN
Y
20
ANDREA STILLMAN
Y
3
GARY LEBEAU
Y
21
KEVIN KELLY
Y
4
STEVE CASSANO
Y
22
ANTHONY J. MUSTO
Y
5
BETH BYE
Y
23
ANDRES AYALA
Y
6
TERRY B. GERRATANA
Y
24
MICHAEL A. MCLACHLAN
N
7
JOHN A. KISSEL
Y
25
BOB DUFF
N
8
KEVIN D. WITKOS
Y
26
TONI BOUCHER
Y
9
PAUL DOYLE
Y
27
CARLO LEONE
Y
10
TONI N. HARP
Y
28
JOHN MCKINNEY
Y
11
MARTIN M. LOONEY
Y
29
DONALD E. WILLIAMS, JR.
Y
12
EDWARD MEYER
N
30
CLARK J. CHAPIN
Y
13
DANTE BARTOLOMEO
N
31
JASON WELCH
Y
14
GAYLE SLOSSBERG
N
32
ROBERT J. KANE
Y
15
JOAN V. HARTLEY
N
33
ART LINARES
N
16
JOE MARKLEY
Y
34
LEONARD FASANO
Y
17
JOSEPH J. CRISCO, JR.
N
35
ANTHONY GUGLIELMO
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Speedo66
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Here are the new "assault weapons", by the way, any pistol with a threaded barrel is now an assault weapon. Your semi auto shotgun, capacity over 5 rounds? Assault weapon.
26. Section 53-202b of the general statutes is repealed and the following is substituted in lieu thereof (Effective from passage):
(a) (1) Any person who, within this state, distributes, transports or imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives any assault weapon, except as provided by sections [29-37j and] 53-202a to 53-202k, inclusive, as amended by this act, [and subsection (h) of section 53a-46a,] shall be guilty of a class C felony and shall be sentenced to a term of imprisonment of which two years may not be suspended or reduced by the court.
(B) Any of the following specified semiautomatic centerfire rifles, or copies or duplicates thereof with the capability of any such rifles, that were in production prior to or on the effective date of this section: (i) AK-47; (ii) AK-74; (iii) AKM; (iv) AKS-74U; (v) ARM; (vi) MAADI AK47; (vii) MAK90; (viii) MISR; (ix) NHM90 and NHM91; (x) Norinco 56, 56S, 84S and 86S; (xi) Poly Technologies AKS and AK47; (xii) SA 85; (xiii) SA 93; (xiv) VEPR; (xv) WASR-10; (xvi) WUM; (xvii) Rock River Arms LAR-47; (xviii) Vector Arms AK-47; (xix) AR-10; (xx) AR-15; (xxi) Bushmaster Carbon 15, Bushmaster XM15, Bushmaster ACR Rifles, Bushmaster MOE Rifles; (xxii) Colt Match Target Rifles; (xxiii) Armalite M15; (xxiv) Olympic Arms AR-15, A1, CAR, PCR, K3B, K30R, K16, K48, K8 and K9 Rifles; (xxv) DPMS Tactical Rifles; (xxvi) Smith and Wesson M&P15 Rifles; (xxvii) Rock River Arms LAR-15; (xxviii) Doublestar AR Rifles; (xxix) Barrett REC7; (xxx) Beretta Storm; (xxxi) Calico Liberty 50, 50 Tactical, 100, 100 Tactical, I, I Tactical, II and II Tactical Rifles; (xxxii) Hi-Point Carbine Rifles; (xxxiii) HK-PSG-1; (xxxiv) Kel-Tec Sub-2000, SU Rifles, and RFB; (xxxv) Remington Tactical Rifle Model 7615; (xxxvi) SAR-8, SAR-4800 and SR9; (xxxvii) SLG 95; (xxxviii) SLR 95 or 96; (xxxix) TNW M230 and M2HB; (xl) Vector Arms UZI; (xli) Galil and Galil Sporter; (xlii) Daewoo AR 100 and AR 110C; (xliii) Fabrique Nationale/FN 308 Match and L1A1 Sporter; (xliv) HK USC; (xlv) IZHMASH Saiga AK; (xlvi) SIG Sauer 551-A1, 556, 516, 716 and M400 Rifles; (xlvii) Valmet M62S, M71S and M78S; (xlviii) Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine; and (xlix) Barrett M107A1;
(C) Any of the following specified semiautomatic pistols, or copies or duplicates thereof with the capability of any such pistols, that were in production prior to or on the effective date of this section: (i) Centurion 39 AK; (ii) Draco AK-47; (iii) HCR AK-47; (iv) IO Inc. Hellpup AK-47; (v) Mini-Draco AK-47; (vi) Yugo Krebs Krink; (vii) American Spirit AR-15; (viii) Bushmaster Carbon 15; (ix) Doublestar Corporation AR; (x) DPMS AR-15; (xi) Olympic Arms AR-15; (xii) Rock River Arms LAR 15; (xiii) Calico Liberty III and III Tactical Pistols; (xiv) Masterpiece Arms MPA Pistols and Velocity Arms VMA Pistols; (xv) Intratec TEC-DC9 and AB-10; (xvi) Colefire Magnum; (xvii) German Sport 522 PK and Chiappa Firearms Mfour-22; (xviii) DSA SA58 PKP FAL; (xix) I.O. Inc. PPS-43C; (xx) Kel-Tec PLR-16 Pistol; (xxi) Sig Sauer P516 and P556 Pistols; and (xxii) Thompson TA5 Pistols;
(D) Any of the following semiautomatic shotguns, or copies or duplicates thereof with the capability of any such shotguns, that were in production prior to or on the effective date of this section: All IZHMASH Saiga 12 Shotguns;
[(3)] (E) Any semiautomatic firearm [not listed in subdivision (1) of this subsection] regardless of whether such firearm is listed in subparagraphs (A) to (D), inclusive, of this subdivision, and regardless of the date such firearm was produced, that meets the following criteria:
[(A)] (i) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least [two] one of the following:
[(i)] (I) A folding or telescoping stock;
[(ii) A] (II) Any grip of the weapon, including a pistol grip, [that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon] a thumbhole stock, or any other stock, the use of which would allow an individual to grip the weapon, resulting in any finger on the trigger hand in addition to the trigger finger being directly below any portion of the action of the weapon when firing;
[(iii)] (III) A [bayonet mount] forward pistol grip;
[(iv)] (IV) A flash suppressor; or [threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and]
[(v)] (V) A grenade launcher or flare launcher; or
(ii) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the ability to accept more than ten rounds; or
(iii) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than thirty inches; or
[(B)] (iv) A semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least [two] one of the following:
[(i)] (I) An ability to accept a detachable ammunition magazine that attaches [to the pistol] at some location outside of the pistol grip;
[(ii)] (II) A threaded barrel capable of accepting a [barrel extender,] flash suppressor, forward [handgrip] pistol grip or silencer;
[(iii)] (III) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to [hold] fire the firearm [with the nontrigger hand] without being burned, [;] except a slide that encloses the barrel; or
[(iv) A manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and]
(IV) A second hand grip; or
(v) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the ability to accept more than ten rounds;
[(v) A semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; or]
[(C)] (vi) A semiautomatic shotgun that has [at least two] both of the following:
[(i)] (I) A folding or telescoping stock; and
[(ii) A] (II) Any grip of the weapon, including a pistol grip, [that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;] a thumbhole stock, or any other stock, the use of which would allow an individual to grip the weapon, resulting in any finger on the trigger hand in addition to the trigger finger being directly below any portion of the action of the weapon when firing; or
[(iii) A fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; and]
[(iv) An] (vii) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine;
(viii) A shotgun with a revolving cylinder; or
[(4)] (F) A part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert a firearm into an assault weapon, as defined in [subdivision (3) of this subsection] any provision of subparagraphs (B) to (E), inclusive, of this subdivision, or any combination of parts from which an assault weapon, as defined in [subdivision (3) of this subsection] any provision of subparagraphs (B) to (E), inclusive, of this subdivision, may be [rapidly] assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person; [.]
[(b) As used in this section and sections 53-202b to 53-202k, inclusive, the term "assault weapon" does not include any firearm modified to render it permanently inoperable.]
(2) "Assault weapon" does not include (A) any firearm modified to render it permanently inoperable, or (B) a part or any combination of parts of an assault weapon, that are not assembled as an assault weapon, when in the possession of a licensed gun dealer, as defined in subsection (d) of section 53-202f, as amended by this act, or a gunsmith who is in the licensed gun dealer's employ, for the purposes of servicing or repairing lawfully possessed assault weapons under sections 53-202a to 53-202k, inclusive, as amended by this act;
(3) "Action of the weapon" means the part of the firearm that loads, fires and ejects a cartridge, which part includes, but is not limited to, the upper and lower receiver, charging handle, forward assist, magazine release and shell deflector;
(4) "Detachable magazine" means an ammunition feeding device that can be removed without disassembling the firearm action;
(5) "Firearm" means a firearm, as defined in section 53a-3;
(6) "Forward pistol grip" means any feature capable of functioning as a grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand;
(7) "Lawfully possesses" means, with respect to an assault weapon described in any provision of subparagraphs (B) to (F), inclusive, of this subdivision, (A) actual possession that is lawful under sections 53-202b to 53-202k, as amended by this act, or (B) constructive possession pursuant to a lawful purchase transacted prior to the effective date of this section, regardless of whether the assault weapon was delivered to the purchaser prior to the effective date of this section;
(8) "Pistol grip" means a grip or similar feature that can function as a grip for the trigger hand; and
(9) "Second hand grip" means a grip or similar feature that can function as a grip that is additional to the trigger hand grip.
26. Section 53-202b of the general statutes is repealed and the following is substituted in lieu thereof (Effective from passage):
(a) (1) Any person who, within this state, distributes, transports or imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives any assault weapon, except as provided by sections [29-37j and] 53-202a to 53-202k, inclusive, as amended by this act, [and subsection (h) of section 53a-46a,] shall be guilty of a class C felony and shall be sentenced to a term of imprisonment of which two years may not be suspended or reduced by the court.
(B) Any of the following specified semiautomatic centerfire rifles, or copies or duplicates thereof with the capability of any such rifles, that were in production prior to or on the effective date of this section: (i) AK-47; (ii) AK-74; (iii) AKM; (iv) AKS-74U; (v) ARM; (vi) MAADI AK47; (vii) MAK90; (viii) MISR; (ix) NHM90 and NHM91; (x) Norinco 56, 56S, 84S and 86S; (xi) Poly Technologies AKS and AK47; (xii) SA 85; (xiii) SA 93; (xiv) VEPR; (xv) WASR-10; (xvi) WUM; (xvii) Rock River Arms LAR-47; (xviii) Vector Arms AK-47; (xix) AR-10; (xx) AR-15; (xxi) Bushmaster Carbon 15, Bushmaster XM15, Bushmaster ACR Rifles, Bushmaster MOE Rifles; (xxii) Colt Match Target Rifles; (xxiii) Armalite M15; (xxiv) Olympic Arms AR-15, A1, CAR, PCR, K3B, K30R, K16, K48, K8 and K9 Rifles; (xxv) DPMS Tactical Rifles; (xxvi) Smith and Wesson M&P15 Rifles; (xxvii) Rock River Arms LAR-15; (xxviii) Doublestar AR Rifles; (xxix) Barrett REC7; (xxx) Beretta Storm; (xxxi) Calico Liberty 50, 50 Tactical, 100, 100 Tactical, I, I Tactical, II and II Tactical Rifles; (xxxii) Hi-Point Carbine Rifles; (xxxiii) HK-PSG-1; (xxxiv) Kel-Tec Sub-2000, SU Rifles, and RFB; (xxxv) Remington Tactical Rifle Model 7615; (xxxvi) SAR-8, SAR-4800 and SR9; (xxxvii) SLG 95; (xxxviii) SLR 95 or 96; (xxxix) TNW M230 and M2HB; (xl) Vector Arms UZI; (xli) Galil and Galil Sporter; (xlii) Daewoo AR 100 and AR 110C; (xliii) Fabrique Nationale/FN 308 Match and L1A1 Sporter; (xliv) HK USC; (xlv) IZHMASH Saiga AK; (xlvi) SIG Sauer 551-A1, 556, 516, 716 and M400 Rifles; (xlvii) Valmet M62S, M71S and M78S; (xlviii) Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine; and (xlix) Barrett M107A1;
(C) Any of the following specified semiautomatic pistols, or copies or duplicates thereof with the capability of any such pistols, that were in production prior to or on the effective date of this section: (i) Centurion 39 AK; (ii) Draco AK-47; (iii) HCR AK-47; (iv) IO Inc. Hellpup AK-47; (v) Mini-Draco AK-47; (vi) Yugo Krebs Krink; (vii) American Spirit AR-15; (viii) Bushmaster Carbon 15; (ix) Doublestar Corporation AR; (x) DPMS AR-15; (xi) Olympic Arms AR-15; (xii) Rock River Arms LAR 15; (xiii) Calico Liberty III and III Tactical Pistols; (xiv) Masterpiece Arms MPA Pistols and Velocity Arms VMA Pistols; (xv) Intratec TEC-DC9 and AB-10; (xvi) Colefire Magnum; (xvii) German Sport 522 PK and Chiappa Firearms Mfour-22; (xviii) DSA SA58 PKP FAL; (xix) I.O. Inc. PPS-43C; (xx) Kel-Tec PLR-16 Pistol; (xxi) Sig Sauer P516 and P556 Pistols; and (xxii) Thompson TA5 Pistols;
(D) Any of the following semiautomatic shotguns, or copies or duplicates thereof with the capability of any such shotguns, that were in production prior to or on the effective date of this section: All IZHMASH Saiga 12 Shotguns;
[(3)] (E) Any semiautomatic firearm [not listed in subdivision (1) of this subsection] regardless of whether such firearm is listed in subparagraphs (A) to (D), inclusive, of this subdivision, and regardless of the date such firearm was produced, that meets the following criteria:
[(A)] (i) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least [two] one of the following:
[(i)] (I) A folding or telescoping stock;
[(ii) A] (II) Any grip of the weapon, including a pistol grip, [that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon] a thumbhole stock, or any other stock, the use of which would allow an individual to grip the weapon, resulting in any finger on the trigger hand in addition to the trigger finger being directly below any portion of the action of the weapon when firing;
[(iii)] (III) A [bayonet mount] forward pistol grip;
[(iv)] (IV) A flash suppressor; or [threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and]
[(v)] (V) A grenade launcher or flare launcher; or
(ii) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the ability to accept more than ten rounds; or
(iii) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than thirty inches; or
[(B)] (iv) A semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least [two] one of the following:
[(i)] (I) An ability to accept a detachable ammunition magazine that attaches [to the pistol] at some location outside of the pistol grip;
[(ii)] (II) A threaded barrel capable of accepting a [barrel extender,] flash suppressor, forward [handgrip] pistol grip or silencer;
[(iii)] (III) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to [hold] fire the firearm [with the nontrigger hand] without being burned, [;] except a slide that encloses the barrel; or
[(iv) A manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and]
(IV) A second hand grip; or
(v) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the ability to accept more than ten rounds;
[(v) A semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; or]
[(C)] (vi) A semiautomatic shotgun that has [at least two] both of the following:
[(i)] (I) A folding or telescoping stock; and
[(ii) A] (II) Any grip of the weapon, including a pistol grip, [that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;] a thumbhole stock, or any other stock, the use of which would allow an individual to grip the weapon, resulting in any finger on the trigger hand in addition to the trigger finger being directly below any portion of the action of the weapon when firing; or
[(iii) A fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; and]
[(iv) An] (vii) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine;
(viii) A shotgun with a revolving cylinder; or
[(4)] (F) A part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert a firearm into an assault weapon, as defined in [subdivision (3) of this subsection] any provision of subparagraphs (B) to (E), inclusive, of this subdivision, or any combination of parts from which an assault weapon, as defined in [subdivision (3) of this subsection] any provision of subparagraphs (B) to (E), inclusive, of this subdivision, may be [rapidly] assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person; [.]
[(b) As used in this section and sections 53-202b to 53-202k, inclusive, the term "assault weapon" does not include any firearm modified to render it permanently inoperable.]
(2) "Assault weapon" does not include (A) any firearm modified to render it permanently inoperable, or (B) a part or any combination of parts of an assault weapon, that are not assembled as an assault weapon, when in the possession of a licensed gun dealer, as defined in subsection (d) of section 53-202f, as amended by this act, or a gunsmith who is in the licensed gun dealer's employ, for the purposes of servicing or repairing lawfully possessed assault weapons under sections 53-202a to 53-202k, inclusive, as amended by this act;
(3) "Action of the weapon" means the part of the firearm that loads, fires and ejects a cartridge, which part includes, but is not limited to, the upper and lower receiver, charging handle, forward assist, magazine release and shell deflector;
(4) "Detachable magazine" means an ammunition feeding device that can be removed without disassembling the firearm action;
(5) "Firearm" means a firearm, as defined in section 53a-3;
(6) "Forward pistol grip" means any feature capable of functioning as a grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand;
(7) "Lawfully possesses" means, with respect to an assault weapon described in any provision of subparagraphs (B) to (F), inclusive, of this subdivision, (A) actual possession that is lawful under sections 53-202b to 53-202k, as amended by this act, or (B) constructive possession pursuant to a lawful purchase transacted prior to the effective date of this section, regardless of whether the assault weapon was delivered to the purchaser prior to the effective date of this section;
(8) "Pistol grip" means a grip or similar feature that can function as a grip for the trigger hand; and
(9) "Second hand grip" means a grip or similar feature that can function as a grip that is additional to the trigger hand grip.
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Prince Yamato
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Everyone, register 1,000 magazines each.
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Speedo66
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Since they've operated in secrecy, nobody knows their plan at this point. They may chose to deface the magazines with an identifying number.
The assembly voted late last night to pass the bill. Nothing like politics taking place in the dark of night, totally hidden from public scrutiny.
How is it democracy when the intent is to hide the contents of a bill from the public, and prevent any public debate?
The assembly voted late last night to pass the bill. Nothing like politics taking place in the dark of night, totally hidden from public scrutiny.
How is it democracy when the intent is to hide the contents of a bill from the public, and prevent any public debate?
Well, we are NOT a democracy. We are a representative republic. We give these politicians a lot of power, and then don't hold them accountable. If they broke the rules passing this crap, then the media needs to know, and protests need to occur, and then a legal fight.
It only applies to semi autos, and i think something like an 1100/11-87/Mossberg590 with 6 round mag is also ok so long as it doesn't also have a pistol grip. They have outlawed the Saiga 12 by name.
Yes, the mini14 is fine. An SKS-M with 10 round mags would be ok as well. Things like that. Think guns without pistol grips, and 10 round mags.
I think any of what is now banned is also just banned from future transfer/sale. But so long as you register it
they are still legal to own.racenutz
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So now all Remington 760 & 7600 pump action rifles are illegal?
They are still trying to figure out if there is an exception for manufacturers. Gov. Malloy has assured manufacturers that they are still welcome. Mossberg flat out told him that they aren't buying it.
This sitll isn't law, as it hasn't passed the house nor been signed by the governor yet. Its just passed the senate. Don't get me wrong, at this point there's no stopping this thing. Not to sound defeatist but it's a matter of when, not if.
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Speedo66
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It passed the house late last night, and will be signed today. You can consider it law.
Since now only one "assault" characteristic is needed, semi auto shotguns with a capacity of over 5 rounds are "assault weapons" and will need to be registered.
No fee to register? Are you serious! They want $35 just to permit you to buy ammo.
I wonder if the +2 bottom plate on Glock magazines constitutes "no pistol mags protruding beneath the grip"?
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Speedo66
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I believe so, but that still requires you to give them money. Long gun only owners will have to pay for a permit to buy ammo.
How much will gun stores charge to do the record keeping for person to person sales? NY's new law caps theirs at $10, but I doubt a gun store owner will do them for that little.
icanthitabarn
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quote .. Well, we are NOT a democracy. We are a representative republic. We give these politicians a lot of power, and then don't hold them accountable. If they broke the rules passing this crap, then the media needs to know, and protests need to occur, and then a legal fight.
Are you kidding? the media will fix things?
Are you kidding? the media will fix things?
xXxplosive
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Hmmm......NJ is also coming up soon on the senate vote for the most ludicrous laws ever requiring psychiatric evaluation just to get a purchase permit.....IMO, this is what the WH wanted.....the situation to get out of hand.
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Speedo66
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Re: fees, this is just so open, and subject to abuse.
Will they charge one fee to register all "assault" weapons and magazines, or will each piece require a separate fee?
I'm not getting a good feeling since they didn't state so in the bill. Now that they are emboldened with the passing of this bill, they may feel the skies the limit.
Will they charge one fee to register all "assault" weapons and magazines, or will each piece require a separate fee?
I'm not getting a good feeling since they didn't state so in the bill. Now that they are emboldened with the passing of this bill, they may feel the skies the limit.
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Speedo66
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At what point will even the most liberal lawmaker feel that something is an infringement?
Maybe never?
I don't have a reason to leave my house this morning, but I think i'll go out and carry my M&P9 with 17 round mag for about another two hours, just because it's the last time I'll be able to do so in my home state.
I hope CCDL really pushes for us to replace all the incumbents who voted for these in the next election cycle. We need new blood to get rid of this nonsense.
I hope CCDL really pushes for us to replace all the incumbents who voted for these in the next election cycle. We need new blood to get rid of this nonsense.
Nonsense. We've already heard talk about how this bill isn't perfect but is strong enough for now. They already are thinking of how to strengthen it in the next sessions. I'm really sick of this. I want to be the type to stay and fight here behind enemy lines, but it's becoming more and more tempting to leave.
Re: Ammo, can we still buy online, so long as the retailer asks for a copy of our pistol permit? I'm guessing that they have not addressed it yet.
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Speedo66
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Since news of this bill is all over the national news, I doubt any commercial ammo dealer will ship anything to CT until there's lots more clarification.
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