Custom glocks and where to get them

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I really wanted to but a few of the large frame glocks mainly the 17L, G40, and G41 but i figure that because these guns will likely be so rare that i'll never be able to buy them in bulk like the disposable guns they are for a reasonable price. So i figure that it's better to find a company that could build a high quality custom one of of their frames that'll last for a long time (Forever?).

so does anyone have any recommendations.
 
Given that there are still plenty of early Glocks out there that have seen heavy use and are still running, I'd hardly characterize them as "disposable," nor do I understand why you'd want to put one on a custom frame. As for rarity, I see new G40s and G41s on store shelves everywhere and if the G17L is a little more uncommon, it's not hard to find either.
 
Then theres no reason to not to get a suped up race glock based on what variation i want right? so could you tell me what companies make good customized glocks?
 
I'd add Xev Technologies to the list. My range rents a full on Xev G17 and I have shot it a few times. If I hit that Megamillions this week I may buy a couple.
 
Odd thread is odd...........

Oolong I really wanted to but a few of the large frame glocks mainly the 17L, G40, and G41 but i figure that because these guns will likely be so rare
Huh? While the 17L is currently scarce it is far from rare. Glock Inc only makes a run of them every 3-4 years. The Glock 40 and 41 are not rare in the least.




that i'll never be able to buy them in bulk like the disposable guns they are for a reasonable price.
What?
Costco and Sam's don't sell Glocks anymore? :eek:

And since when were Glocks "disposable"? I've been washing mine in the dishawasher.



So i figure that it's better to find a company that could build a high quality custom one of of their frames that'll last for a long time (Forever?).
Want to induce malfunctions in a Glock?......just start "customizing" it.



so does anyone have any recommendations.
Shoot a stock Glock first, then after you find fault with something see if there is a solution.

I don't know if you are trolling but anyone who thinks Glocks are "disposable" has little experience with firearms.
 
i have no experience with glocks at all, this is true and very little experience with guns in general only a few hundred hours.

i also have no costco or sam's nearby.

but i ask, why is it seen as a good idea to buy a $2000 1911 but not $2000 glock?
 
but i ask, why is it seen as a good idea to buy a $2000 1911 but not $2000 glock?

The 1911 has far more potential to improve. It is a design that is originally engineered to be hand-fit and that type of workmanship shows a lot of reward (you're not likely to find a better trigger on any handgun than a well fitted custom 1911).

A Glock on the other hand is a pistol that is built to be cheap. reliable, and easy to mass produce. You can spend a lot of money on it and at the end of the day you're going to likely end up with something that doesn't work any better than the original (and often times doesn't work as good as the original).

It's kinda like asking why people would hotrod an old Mustang instead of a brand new Toyota Camry.
 
i have no experience with glocks at all, this is true and very little experience with guns in general only a few hundred hours.
Ok, well that maybe explains your questions a bit better.

Glocks are not "disposable" by any stretch of the imagination. They are a polymer-framed handgun proven capable of working just fine into the hundreds of thousands of rounds.

They work, and work well. They can be had somewhat less expensively than some other kinds of guns because modern manufacturing techniques have allowed us to build a very reliable, plenty accurate, firearm with much less hand-labor and less expensive materials and construction methods than previous designs required.

i also have no costco or sam's nearby.
He was joking, based on your rather odd use of the phrase "buy in bulk." As though you needed to buy a case of a dozen Glocks or a 5-gallon pail of them -- like the sorts of quantities in which Sam's club and Costco sell their commodity products.

I'd imagine you meant you, for some reason, believed you can't buy certain models of Glock right off the shelf from any dealer, any day you wanted. Or maybe that you wouldn't be able to quickly find a replacement if somehow you managed to wear it out?

You can certainly get any of the Glocks you mentioned, in the quantities anyone would reasonably require, if that's what you want.

but i ask, why is it seen as a good idea to buy a $2000 1911 but not $2000 glock?
There is a whole market and aesthetic that's built up around 1911s (and a very few other guns) which appreciates the artistry and panache of a custom builder's touch, or even the little extra details and attention to precision applied by some of the larger semi-custom or very high end 1911 makers like Les Baer, Wilson Combat, Nighthawk, etc. It's boutique art in shooting form. Super neat-o if that's your thing.

As mgmorden said, it's like getting your custom hot-rodded Mustang or Camero. Sure is cool and fast. Looks awesome. Turns heads. Neat hobby. MIGHT be better, in some ways, than a much cheaper modern car, though probably not so reliable and not as fuel efficient, or comfortable.

Similar to buying a custom knife for several hundred dollars instead of picking up a regular old Buck from your local sporting goods place. It's neat and makes you feel good to handle it and show it off. There's a chance that some day it will do something that that $60 Buck knife just couldn't handle. But day-to-day, the Buck is just as good at getting stuff cut.


So yeah, getting a custom-built Glock is a little like buying a super-hot-rodded Toyota Camry. It might become LESS reliable than one right off the dealer's lot. But it might look ... sorta ... cool, to some people. And it might get you to work a few seconds faster, maybe. But most folks are going to laugh, because it isn't what they've come to expect, and the justifications for doing it aren't going to make much sense to them.
 
I see lots of hot-rodded Honda Civics. Spend $5-10k extra on them to make them worth less than stock....

Here in CA, the longslide Glocks are rare. I had a G17L and a G41, shot both, and they were my least favorite out of the dozen Glock models I own. I put them up for sale last month at $1000 each, and sold both in less than an hour. I'd much rather shoot a RIA 1911 Tactical, a G26, or a G30 than either of the Glocks I sold. Took the money and bought 5 .22lr guns for the grandkids to shoot in the back yard.
 
Like I said, I have shot a fully modded Zev Glock and it is nice. Is it worth another $1500 is a question that really depends on how big your wallet is. I'm not spending that much on one but I'm not starting a collection like BACs either. I admire BAC greatly but I don't have that desire or money. But I could have afforded the Zev, I have more than that in my 6.5 Grendel AR. I have never really liked the 1911. The first time I shot one in basic training I hated it and it was the first hand gun I ever fired. I've carried one several times mostly in Korea in the DMZ. But I don't like them.
 
Sam1911 wrote,
There is a whole market and aesthetic that's built up around 1911s (and a very few other guns) which appreciates the artistry and panache of a custom builder's touch, or even the little extra details and attention to precision applied by some of the larger semi-custom or very high end 1911 makers like Les Baer, Wilson Combat, Nighthawk, etc. It's boutique art in shooting form. Super neat-o if that's your thing.
I'm not sure you're actually referring to a $2,000 1911 as "artistry and panache" level of price, but I'd put the "boutique art" 1911 price at over $3,000 (and then some). The 1911 at the $2,000 point is usually (there are exceptions) a gun that has quality parts and is put together properly. Generally, you're cutting corners with something, either in parts or assembly, if your 1911 costs less than $2,000.

http://modernserviceweapons.com/?p=3563
Based on military and LE experience over the past 25 years, it is virtually impossible to acquire a reliable, durable 1911 for less than $2000.00.

Conversely, a properly built Glock is a $500 gun. It's not clear to me (other than esthetics) what an extra $1,500 buys you.

I'd compare a $2,000 Glock (I'm not sure there is one) with a $7,000 1911. At those prices you're usually just paying for "bling".
 
Ok, sure. Fine. If you can't possibly buy a "reliable, durable" 1911 for less than $2,000, then that's worth whatever the opinion cost you.
I wasn't using this as an opportunity to pick nits over what's an "acceptable" 1911 and what isn't.

My comment about "artistry," "panache," and "boutique art" could be applied to the entire decision to carry a 1911 at all. Nobody carries one because you just can't get the job done (absolutely as well) with something else. (Whether they believe/admit that to be true or not!) They carry one because it is cool, old school, "has soul," or is "an elegant weapon, for a more civilized age."

They are expensive guns, in general, and "nice" ones tend to be at the upper end of the common handgun price range.

As you say, a "nice" Glock is probably the one that's been tinkered with the LEAST and is probably worth about $500.
 
It might become LESS reliable than one right off the dealer's lot.

No might be about it.. If the top team glock members cannot get their open guns to run. Chances that the average person without factory support is relatively slim to none.
 
A 2,000 dollar Glock, or at least the one I shot was a race gun. Its not a carry. You are not going to carry a gun with a trigger that light. Are people carrying $2k 1911s with 2 pound triggers? Here is the problem, cognitive dissonance. Everyone thinks of Glocks as simple tools which is reasonable because they are. They are not thinking of them as a fine accurate gun. The only stock thing on the Zev I fired was... Hmmm I don't think there was a stock part on it. The frame was probably standard when it started but it was seriously modded.

I will say this, everyone talking bad about one here has never fired one. So they have an opinion, they don't have an informed opinion.
 
oolong but i ask, why is it seen as a good idea to buy a $2000 1911 but not $2000 glock?

That's not the correct comparison.
For most of us, a Glock is a $400-500 purchase--walk in-walk out, done.

A 1911 on the other hand can run from $400 to $4000, and above $1200 is rarely off the shelf (excepting some STI), it's buying $800-1100 worth of 1911 a,d sending it to a smith for another several thousand in custom work.

Personally, I cannot disagree more with this statement:
http://modernserviceweapons.com/?p=3563
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Based on military and LE experience over the past 25 years, it is virtually impossible to acquire a reliable, durable 1911 for less than $2000.00.

First off, about a million 1911A1 were built for about $45 (in 1945 dollars). That's about $600 in 2016 dollars. There are thousands of 1991ss, Series 80s, Paras, etc. out there that are reliable and durable.

That statement also besmirches every M9 being carried by those serving today, too. Elitism is always ugly.
 
I will say this, everyone talking bad about one here has never fired one. So they have an opinion, they don't have an informed opinion.

you know what they say about assumptions?

Now I dont own a Zev or Sailent cause paying someone to customize a glock is a bit silly.. Its one of the simplest guns in the world to change parts on.

I do however, have a G34 that has close to 2k in it (if not more). Course that includes a RDS (DP 2), Briley Barrel (fitted), Vanek Trigger, Jager HVY guide rod conversion & Sriker... Basically everything else Aftermarket except the Frame and slide as those are bound by USPSA rules.
In addition, I also have a G35 that I used to use as a USPSA Limited gun, and now resides as a dedicated backup. Where the only thing stock is the slide that incorporates the same parts as above, in addition to heavyweight magwell.

Worth it? hell no...
While they are worlds better than a stock glock. they are nowhere near the gun others are stock.
 
I won't speak to customizing Glocks either way, but if the OP likes DIY projects, you can buy a G-17 frame (the serialized firearm part) on gunbroker for ~$200 in the color of your choice, then mail order exactly what you want in terms of top end parts to finish it. Get exactly what you want, no waste money on OEM parts that get replaced.
 
So what i gathered.
1. Glocks while cheap are sturdy.
2. 1911's are basically art pieces.
3. I should just get base glock and if i want something custom to go buy a korth?
 
One of my Glocks has more than 100,000 rounds thought it. Only thing that has been changed on it were springs. If you thing they are disposable PM me and I'll take them odd your hands.
 
1. Glocks while cheap are sturdy.
They are. The reason they are inexpensive is they are made out plastic and stamped parts. They product is designed to snap together further reducing production costs.
2. 1911's are basically art pieces.
Some are, but not all.

Here is a $2,000 1911. https://www.lesbaer.com/1911UltTact.html I don't consider this art, but simply a gun with quality parts put together by trained craftsmen.

Here's some 1911 art. https://www.lesbaer.com/PresGrade.html This is the same quality as the $2,000 1911, but is rendered as "art" and the price increase from $2,000 to the $7,000 range shows what you need to pay for "art".

The reason the 1911 cost so much more than the Glock is the individual parts are more expensive and the gun takes more effort to fit all those parts together properly.
 
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