Custom glocks and where to get them

[dogtown tom]

JTQ

Quote:
1. Glocks while cheap are sturdy.

They are. The reason they are inexpensive is they are made out plastic and stamped parts. They product is designed to snap together further reducing production costs.

I've been to two Glock Armorers classes and this is the first time I've heard they "snap together".

 

[Mike OTDP]

Back to the OP...precisely what do you want done to a Glock? You can put $500 into slide cutouts and flossy anodizing that does nothing, or put the same money into a mini-RDS installation and a good trigger that will make the gun shoot much better. It's up to you.

 

[JTQ]

I've been to two Glock Armorers classes and this is the first time I've heard they "snap together".

When you get a new part for your Glock, does it need to filed on or fit to the gun?

There are a lot of Glock armorers. There are a lot of 1911 gunsmiths. There is a difference.

 

[Flfiremedic]

Vickers and Suarez both do custom stuff...the Vickers seem to have a cult following on Facebook. I will say I dig the Vickers sights...very similar to Wilsons...heck they even sell them. Not sure what other stuff is done to them.

 

[Oolong]

I need the glock to be competition accurate, not for competition but because i have standards. but if customizing a glock ruins it i'll just get a beretta and build as i go along.

 

[JTQ]

The Gen 4 Glock's have a reputation for good accuracy. If you're not actually competing, just competing against yourself, you may find the Glock is plenty accurate. If not, you could get an aftermarket barrel fitted by a pro.

For the Beretta, here's some options

http://www.mountaincompetitionpistols.com/NationalMatchM9

Bob Kolesar's M9 (I wish the picture links weren't broken, they were fascinating to see what was done to get the Beretta to bullseye accurate) https://firearmusernetwork.com/2013/09/16/a-beretta-for-bullseye/

 

[Acera]

I need the glock to be competition accurate, not for competition but because i have standards. but if customizing a glock ruins it i'll just get a beretta and build as i go along.

You might try and be more specific about what competition your are referring to as there are many types. What may be best for one is not necessary going to be best for another. Bullseye? Run-n-Gun? That will help determine if your focus should be on accuracy or reliability first.

Are you, as a shooter able to fire the base gun as accurately as it can be fired? Most new shooters can not exceed the capabilities of factory guns without many years and thousands of rounds of practice. It ain't as easy as reading about it on the internet and then going out and doing it in the real world. You can't purchase skill.


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[Oolong]

Yeah but what's the point of buying a worst gun to then buy a more expensive better one and have to learn how to use it rather than buying the expensive gun and spending those two years learning to become as accurate as possible with it instead of a cheaper gun that i'll be stuck with and didn't want in the first place?

i shouldn't have to learn the difference between a okay gun as far as accuracy is concerned just to get a gun with the potential to be fired more accurately due to mechanical differences. My goal is to be able to hit a fly's wings at 50 yards. which design has the most likelihood of doing that in the hands of a expert shooter of either is the question i guess.

 

[JTQ]

There are a lot of options to chase accuracy, but an easy, fairly inexpensive, option is to just call Les Baer and order a Premier II with the 1 1/2" 50 yard guarantee.

https://www.lesbaer.com/Premier5.html

However, this pistol recommendation should probably be just like the recommendation you got in your thread on AR's ( http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=802548 ). Buy a decent gun, and learn to shoot it well. By the time you are really good shooting it you'll have learned what you want/need, and probably have run into other guys/gals at the range and asked them what they use or tried their guns to see if you like them better.

 

[Sam1911]

Yeah but what's the point of buying a worst gun to then buy a more expensive better one and have to learn how to use it rather than buying the expensive gun and spending those two years learning to become as accurate as possible with it instead of a cheaper gun that i'll be stuck with and didn't want in the first place?

Buy which ever gun speaks to you and you think will encourage you to get out and practice with it. If the money is no problem for you, spending a bit more is not a problem.

What can be a problem is buying something "match grade" that's too finicky and "tight" and frustrates you with issues, which you don't have the knowledge and need to live with or work around as a dedicated match shooter may do.

Spending a lot of money for bits and bobs and high-zoot detailing that you can't really appreciate/utilize will probably seem a little foolish to many people, but there's always the chance that you MAY learn to love those exact details you spent a tiny fortune for.

But the flip side is this: There's at least a 50% chance that as you develop your skills and knowledge you'll instead discover that those high-zoot bits and bobs you spent that tiny fortune for are NOT the ones that really work for you and for the style of shooting you learn you most enjoy.

You pays your money and you takes your chances, as they say.

i shouldn't have to learn the difference between a okay gun as far as accuracy is concerned just to get a gun with the potential to be fired more accurately due to mechanical differences. My goal is to be able to hit a fly's wings at 50 yards. which design has the most likelihood of doing that in the hands of a expert shooter of either is the question i guess.

If your goal is fly-wing accuracy with a handgun at 50 yds.... well, ok. One might ask "why?" and "are you sure?" Because handgunning for extreme accuracy is a pretty specialized sport that doesn't have much real world application. And it turns out that the folks who are most into that kind of thing head into the "Bullseye" (Officially, "NRA Conventional Pistol") discipline. And really, they're a pretty rare breed. FAR more handgunners find their joy in other kinds of pistol shooting (USPSA, IDPA, 3-gun, SASS, or defensive training, etc.) which one can succeed in perfectly well with a stock Glock, M&P, xD, CZ, or even a Sig or HK if you must, as ... (no offense intended to anyone at all!) ... standing and delivering one round at a time, sweating to edge each bullet into the tiniest circle possible is, well, pretty boring. UNLESS you happen to be the kind of shooter who that REALLY speaks to.

And if you are, then you need the exact equipment for that discipline, not just some random expensive pistol.

 

[CWL]

Oolong,

Rather than discussing guns and how to throw money into it,I suggest that you go to your local gun range, or better yet, during a IPSC or IDPA competition and see what they're shooting and how they shoot.

Find a couple of good shooters and ask them about their guns (believe me, shooters are a friendly lot and LOVE to talk about their firearms). They'll tell you all the good and bads plus what the may have changed to it. Oftentimes, they'll let you shoot it.

Find out what you like that way and then decide on what to buy. Then shoot a couple thousand rounds so you can understand your gun before you put any money into modifications and customizations.

The biggest mistake I see people make are the ones who start with "I want to buy a xyz gun. What modifications should I do to it?" Get to know your gun first, so you'll know why you make each modification.

 

[Zerodefect]

I need the glock to be competition accurate, not for competition but because i have standards. but if customizing a glock ruins it i'll just get a beretta and build as i go along.

Don't get a custom Glock. Yet. I'll agree that it seriously stinks how stock pistols come with pathetic triggers and obsolete sights. But that's what fudd's and momo's want, so that's what sells.

Get a box stock gen 4 Glock 41, 35, or 34. Slowly learn how to tune it and care for it. You can polish the trigger, smooth out the trigger safety and trigger shoe, hammer on quality sights, and undercut the trigger guard to completely transform how the pistol feels and shoots.

That can be a bit of work, I get that. So heres a different game plan. Get stock 41/35/34 and go do some IDPA or GSSF competition. Or any club competition. You'll meet plenty of people, and get to see and try many custom setups to see what really works.

You need to experience Glocks, and know what and why you want a custom anything before crossing that bridge. And stock Glocks are perfectly accurate. Many of mine run just fine along side my best 1911's, it's just that the stock Glock trigger can be a handful sometimes.

Salient Arms makes a great custom Glock, but I'd recommend having them dial in the stock trigger instead of their custom trigger. I've pulled all of my custom metal Glock triggers and have sold them. With some attention to detail and tons of free time, the stock smooth face Glock triggers can be worked over far better.

You may also want to consider some 1911's: Dan Wesson Valor, Guncrafter Frag or No Name, Les Baer.

My Glock 41 has replaced my Dan Wesson Valor as my fullsize CCW, so yeah, it's plenty accurate. You know the accuracy rep the Valor has, my 41 shoots just as well.

 

[Ric]

Back to the op
I had these guys
http://www.coldborecustom.com
Do a chop job, stipple and some other varied frame work on an old G17.
They did a great job.

I've had Bowie tactical concepts work on a S&W M&P9 and did a great job as well, but you will wait longer.