I met up with a longtime friend today (we've been friends since kindergarten). She brought along her roomate/friend (and also somebody I am friendly with from my high school days).
Out of the blue, my friend, who knows I have a CWP and carry, mentions that this other girl has a CWP too.... but here's the kicker.... doesn't have any weapons.
I asked the girl if that was true. She confirmed. I asked why. She said she would like to buy a gun, but hasn't gotten around to it. I asked how long she's had her permit. She told me she got it as soon as she was able to - at age 18.
- .Cheese. becomes suspicious as the legal age is 21 -
I told her that she must mean 21 as that is the minimum age in Florida. She said that if that's the case it must be so. She's a bit younger than my friend and I, she's only 24. There's a big difference between 6 and 3 years. She remembers incorrectly?
She told me she had taken the 2 day course.
Then she told me she wants to get a .22 because she has never shot a gun before.
- .Cheese. again is suspicious as there is a requirement to shoot during the CWP process -
I didn't ask about that. She said she also would carry concealed with the .22. I advised against this as I feel .22 is a wonderful cartridge to practice with, but generally an inadequate cartridge for protection (despite the many cases of people using a .22 NAA mini revolver or such in self defense). I was of course assuming she meant .22lr.
I recommended she get a .380 ACP. She told me she didn't need to get the most powerful cartridge out there. I corrected her in telling her that 9mm Kurtz AKA .380 ACP, is really just a 9mm short. It is less powerful than a 9mm, but often chosen for self-defense, especially amongst women.
She tells me at this point that she really just got her CWP to be able to buy a gun to take to the range.
Again I am suspicious as it seems she doesn't know anything about firearm laws. I explained that a CWP is not necessary in the state of Florida to take a firearm to a range. There are a number of methods of legally transporting a firearm that do not require a permit of any kind.
.....
time elapses. We're at dinner. At one point she starts telling me that if she told me the things her last boyfriend would do, I'd take my gun and go shoot him.
I asked why would I do that?
She told me that he hit her, that he wouldn't acknowledge her as being his GF in public because she was obese, etc.
I told her this, "Her name, I'm very sorry to hear of all of this, and of course I am angered to hear of such poor treatment, but you still have not given me any reason to shoot him. As somebody who supposedly holds a CWP, I fear you may have forgotten some of the rules of using a firearm against another individual. Unless this ex-boyfriend of yours is presenting me with an immediate and credible threat of death or severe bodily harm, or is armed and breaking into my home, I have no reason to shoot him. You never shoot somebody out of anger or frustration. I would expect you to know this."
things went on along those lines.
Here is my question.
Do you think she actually has a CWP, or is either mistaken in her knowledge of what license she has (maybe she once got a hunting license)? Am I too suspicious of this girl? I get the impression that she's a loose cannon and it would be wise to stay away from her if I can. Possibly even a little crazy.
A lot of what she said raised red flags. Total lack of knowledge about firearm laws, about firearms, about procedures regarding getting a permit, about firearm safety rules, about proper usage of a firearm, etc.
While it doesn't really matter, I'll just mention this last - she's hugely liberal. I'm not sure if that has anything to do with things or not. Just throwing it out there.
Out of the blue, my friend, who knows I have a CWP and carry, mentions that this other girl has a CWP too.... but here's the kicker.... doesn't have any weapons.
I asked the girl if that was true. She confirmed. I asked why. She said she would like to buy a gun, but hasn't gotten around to it. I asked how long she's had her permit. She told me she got it as soon as she was able to - at age 18.
- .Cheese. becomes suspicious as the legal age is 21 -
I told her that she must mean 21 as that is the minimum age in Florida. She said that if that's the case it must be so. She's a bit younger than my friend and I, she's only 24. There's a big difference between 6 and 3 years. She remembers incorrectly?
She told me she had taken the 2 day course.
Then she told me she wants to get a .22 because she has never shot a gun before.
- .Cheese. again is suspicious as there is a requirement to shoot during the CWP process -
I didn't ask about that. She said she also would carry concealed with the .22. I advised against this as I feel .22 is a wonderful cartridge to practice with, but generally an inadequate cartridge for protection (despite the many cases of people using a .22 NAA mini revolver or such in self defense). I was of course assuming she meant .22lr.
I recommended she get a .380 ACP. She told me she didn't need to get the most powerful cartridge out there. I corrected her in telling her that 9mm Kurtz AKA .380 ACP, is really just a 9mm short. It is less powerful than a 9mm, but often chosen for self-defense, especially amongst women.
She tells me at this point that she really just got her CWP to be able to buy a gun to take to the range.
Again I am suspicious as it seems she doesn't know anything about firearm laws. I explained that a CWP is not necessary in the state of Florida to take a firearm to a range. There are a number of methods of legally transporting a firearm that do not require a permit of any kind.
.....
time elapses. We're at dinner. At one point she starts telling me that if she told me the things her last boyfriend would do, I'd take my gun and go shoot him.
I asked why would I do that?
She told me that he hit her, that he wouldn't acknowledge her as being his GF in public because she was obese, etc.
I told her this, "Her name, I'm very sorry to hear of all of this, and of course I am angered to hear of such poor treatment, but you still have not given me any reason to shoot him. As somebody who supposedly holds a CWP, I fear you may have forgotten some of the rules of using a firearm against another individual. Unless this ex-boyfriend of yours is presenting me with an immediate and credible threat of death or severe bodily harm, or is armed and breaking into my home, I have no reason to shoot him. You never shoot somebody out of anger or frustration. I would expect you to know this."
things went on along those lines.
Here is my question.
Do you think she actually has a CWP, or is either mistaken in her knowledge of what license she has (maybe she once got a hunting license)? Am I too suspicious of this girl? I get the impression that she's a loose cannon and it would be wise to stay away from her if I can. Possibly even a little crazy.
A lot of what she said raised red flags. Total lack of knowledge about firearm laws, about firearms, about procedures regarding getting a permit, about firearm safety rules, about proper usage of a firearm, etc.
While it doesn't really matter, I'll just mention this last - she's hugely liberal. I'm not sure if that has anything to do with things or not. Just throwing it out there.
