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CZ-75 P-01?

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Sephiroth

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I've been giving serious thought to buying a CZ-75 P-01 9mm, since I see it as the most scaleable "real" 9mm pistol out there for all of its attributes. But to make sense of that last statement, let me outline some background information:

My first pistol (I've ever owned) is a full-size Springfield Armory "Loaded," parkerized 1911, what I consider to be a decent (and the most accetable to my standards) entry-level 1911 for the money and manufacturing processes. It's what I've been carrying and shooting for several years now. My other pistol is an MPA-30 9mm (uhhh... basically a semi-auto Cobray M-11), what I consider to be simply a "fun gun" to plink around with in the backyard. This is why I put the quotations around the real in "real" 9mm pistol, since the MPA-30 just isn't practical unless it's the only thing lying around (it does have quite a discouraging appearance, however, when coupled with a fake two-stage Scionics suppressor/barrel extension).

The P-01 has an accessory rail and can accept traditional CZ 15-round magazines. And even though I prefer .45ACP over 9mm, I do not discount the latter round -- particularly with the advances in the +P/+P+ JHP variety. It is also more compact, height and length-wise (I believe the 1911 is still slimmer due to its single stack nature) for more a more preferred concealed-carry profile.

Basically, I want to own a 9mm pistol as another "fun gun," but it would have a practical purpose as well in that it would be a second-priority carry/self/home-defense weapon. It'd basically be the AK to my AR [raw, rugged durability and reliability {for if I had to go long term survivalist-mode to the country side in the muck and mud with nothing but iron-sights and a sling as accessories} versus true, modular, tactical CQB handling and accessorizing {for if I had to conduct a CQB raid and secure the area via room-to-room, team-oriented movement] in the sense that shares the pros to the 1911's cons, and vice versa. If I feel the need for higher-capacity, smaller size, and a tac-light/laser compatibility, I'll go with the 9mm. The 1911 would still be my primary sidearm in that not only does it have a slimmer, closer-to-the-body feel than any other double-stacks (of any caliber) I've handled, but simply because I have so much experience with it over any newer weapon I would acquire.

Everything I know about the CZ is what I've researched myself with no real bias beforehand (by me or anyone else). But now it's time to enter that arena: What do you guys think? With an average MSRP of $485 (I think.. recalling everything off-hand), would that money be better off toward something else that's of higher quality (and maybe a little more money -- price doesn't really matter)? Does anyone have any experience with this weapon (I believe this weapon uses a different metallurgic content than the standard CZ's, so things like breakage or cracks in standards wouldn't help much here)? Think I'm making a good investment? Any input is greatly appreciated.

[Seph]
 
I have a pcr,which is pretty much like the p01 w/out the light rail.It was my my first cz and won't be my last.It is very accurate and is well made.You will not go wrong.
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Needless to say, I have to vote for the PCR:D

Great gun, very accurate, and very well made. The PCR is a little easier to conceal, should you ever decide to carry it.

But either way, the P01 or the PCR, you've got a winner.
 
I strongly suggest you shoot or at least handle the P-01 before you take the plunge. I own several CZs, and they are all very good pistols, but I only carry them in condition one and I dislike the double-action pulls (mostly because of the length). That said, I shoot CZs faster and more accurately than any other platform (I can do almost as well with a GLOCK or a 1911).

If you do go for a CZ, 16-rounders are common and reliable, BTW.
 
Hmm... PCR, or P-01... more comfortable concealed carry ability, or M3 light-ability for those home/night-encounters...

Really, I've carried that full sized 1911 almost everywhere I go (within legal means) in a Galco IWB Royal Guard holster with no issues whatsoever concerning comfort. Though the CZ is slightly wider, even with an accessory rail, I don't think it would bother me. I've carried my 1911 on me for hours, I'm talking 12 hour shifts, at a time while all things from running, walking, sitting/driving in a car, etc. with no problems, and remember that it's a full sized GM-sized weapon. Yes, carrying it in condition-one is a major factor in choosing the CZ. As a 1911 owner, that's almost a given. The CZ would be no different, and I have learned that it's well suited for the task.

Oh, and yeah, I've had the opportunity to fire the weapon at the local gunshop/indoor range. Very impressed. Double-taps and Mozambiques were easy and fluid to accomplish, even at 20 yards with the range-ammo (standard FMJ).

I'm still leaning toward the P-01. The true test would be in carrying the weapon with a tac-light attached on an appropriate IWB holster that would accomidate it (I've seen some around, though they're relatively new and list of available model-types are therefore limited for now). The accessory rail was one of the buying-points for me, granting the weapon an almost modular status that allows it to be scaleable for nearly any situation whether it be for recreation, carry-defense, home-defense, duty-rig holster carry, night-deployment, etc. in tandem with its otherwise compact size. But honestly, I don't think it'll bother me. I'm still young, slender, and tolerant enough to tuck away a lot without it getting too bothersome.
 
Yes, carrying it in condition-one is a major factor in choosing the CZ. As a 1911 owner, that's almost a given. The CZ would be no different, and I have learned that it's well suited for the task.

The PCR and P-01 are decocker models. So carrying in condition one isn't possible. You'd have to go with an SP-01 for that (check it out - very sweet gun if you don't mind the dimensions).

I'm not certain if you'll be able to find really nice (Royal Guard or VM-2 caliber) leather for a weaponlight-equipped holster, especially when you're talking P-01. Eric from HBE Leatherworks can probably do it, but it might be tough finding an exact match elsewhere.
 
Crap, you're right. Hmm. You know, I didn't even think of that at the time. I have little to no experience with any pistol with a decocker, and have only known the CZ's to have a safety "clicker." The SP-01 seems pretty appealing, though it is pretty much a full size CZ. But wow... 18 rounds? Also, this is funny as what showed up for the pistol. I wonder how that bayonet'd work....

http://www.czub.cz/index.php?p=32&idp=1&ids=3&idz=171&lang=en
 
I too am interested in a CZ-75, got the bug. I am surprised that the de-cocker models cannot be carried in condition one. I have a Taurus PT-945 with the decocker feature, on it I have the choice, cond. one or decocked, SA/DA. When de-cocked I can still engage the safety. Mulliga, are you sure the CZ-75 cannot be carried Cond 1?
 
The standard CZ-75 models can be cocked-and-locked (though safety only works with the hammer cocked), but the P-01 and PCR models, along with the other decocker models, cannot. In this respect, the decocking CZs are more like SIGs than anything else.
 
Own and like mine

Seph, I own a P-01 as 1 of 5 CZs. It is accurate and handy. I bought it because it looked cool with the equipment rail. It is not a true compact. It is only slightly smaller than the full size 75. The magazines will interchange but if you use the full size mags they don't fit flush.

I use it for my plate shoots but if I had to buy it again I would buy the 75 compact instead. It is the same size but has a steel rather than aluminum frame. I prefer the safety instead of the decocker and don't need the light rail. The way the bottom plate on the magazine is different. the P-01 has a metal plate that digs into my pinky when I shoot. The 75 compact magazine is the same size but has a rubber bottom plate that fits me better.

CZ's are a good quality gun. They aren't Sig's but don't cost like them either. I think they are a great value. If you buy one think about getting a Kadet kit ( a 22 caliber top end) as well.
pete
 
Sephiroth said:
Crap, you're right. Hmm. You know, I didn't even think of that at the time. I have little to no experience with any pistol with a decocker, and have only known the CZ's to have a safety "clicker." The SP-01 seems pretty appealing, though it is pretty much a full size CZ. But wow... 18 rounds? Also, this is funny as what showed up for the pistol. I wonder how that bayonet'd work....

http://www.czub.cz/index.php?p=32&idp=1&ids=3&idz=171&lang=en

I like my SP-01's so much, they're all I shoot anymore. BTW, the mag capacity is really 19+1. And the Kadet Kit will save you a fortune. And no recoil shooting 22lr on the SP-01 frame.
 
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I think a P-01 and an SP-01 are different animals. Check the website www.cz-usa.com or www.czforum.com
On the 2 decocker models I have the P-01 and the 40p the decocker lever lowers the hammer to a half cock notch and there is no safety. On the safety euipped models the safety only works with the hammer back "cocked and locked". If you want to lower the hammer you have to do it yourself which some people believe is too dangerous.
pete
 
George Hill said:
My vote is for the P-01. For a daily CCW carry gun that can run with IDPA or... I love it. Accurate too. Its my personal favorite.

+1.

Of all my CZs, I find myself carrying my P-01 more than any other.

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Mike
 
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