CZ 75 questions

[armoredman]

I have personally handled several examples at CZ Custom, and, well, WOW. Incredible work.

 

[Furncliff]

I've had two occasions to send a pistol to CZUSA for work (CZ82). Their customer service is AAA as far as I'm concerned.

My 75b is for the range, it serves that purpose well, I would not hesitate to carry it.

Con... out of the box trigger needs attention. Since mine is a range gun (I bought it used) and knowing what I know now I would buy the SA model. I smoothed the trigger on mine by putting in a snap cap and pulling the trigger ... a lot.

 

[sirgilligan]

Look back over here.... look... a CZ 85 B... (back on topic)



Most people probably wouldn't want a CZ firearm, because it makes hitting the target too easy, there is little felt recoil, and it is quick to get back on target. Just kidding of course about most not wanting one.

25 yards, free standing (no rest, no leaning, no support), two hand grip, about 45 seconds, no misses.



Of course the firearm needs to fit you. You should definitely shoot one.

 

[dondavis3]

Glad to see someone get us back on target --- Gezz guys let it go.

 

[PO2Hammer]

Yeah, I appreciate the support, but let's get back to it.

Very nice shooting sirgilligan!

I was out in the cold driving snow/rain today and shot a lot of rounds through my Kadet conversion. This was the second time out with the Kadet. Had one f-t-fire early on then it ran flawlessly after that. It shoots mini mags very well (no brainer there), but it also shot Federal bulk 36 gr plated HP's very well and functioned with CCI SV despite the cold weather and the gun being lubed with Slide Glide Lite grease.

It's a spendy little unit, but shooting my 75 cheaply will make it worth it.

 

[Zoogster]

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[CZguy]

My Kadet conversion has turned my CZ 75B into my favorite pistol bar none. I shoot it every time I go to the range, no matter what else I was going there for. Running reliably with Federal Bulk Pac has a lot to do with that.

 

[Pilot]

^^^^^^^

Me too. The Kadet Kit goes to every range visit with my 75B. It easy to swap it back to 9MM, and shoot that too. I also use in on my PCR from time to time. It is a very well designed, and accurate .22.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

I was out in the cold driving snow/rain today and shot a lot of rounds through my Kadet conversion. This was the second time out with the Kadet. Had one f-t-fire early on then it ran flawlessly after that. It shoots mini mags very well...

I'd consider that an AMMO problem, not a gun problem. .22 ammo is some of the most unreliable stuff you can shoot.

I have a Kadet Kit too, and I mostly use it on an 85 Combat. It is the most accurate .22 I've owned, and I've had several, including as Ruger Target Competition with the long, slab-sided barrel. I traded that Ruger for a Witness Sport Long Slide .45 after I started shooting the Kadet kit.

 

[LoadedDrum]

I agree with the statements on the Kadet Kit. I have one for my SP01 and it is amazingly accurate. I was plinking bottles at 50 yrds with it, despite the crappy trigger on the SP01.

 

[cynical d]

I have a CZ75 9mm when I chamber a round and try to drop the mag it wont drop free, not because of the break but the slide will drag the next round forward until it hits the frame. This is the only pistol I have that does this and was wondering if this is normal for a cz.

 

[Stringfellow]

Glad to see dondavis chime in--that picture of his CZ85 is one of my favorites, and one of the inspirations for choosing my '75 Nickel (as were some of Walt's comments regarding his preference for nickel).

 

[Walt Sherrill]

I have a CZ75 9mm when I chamber a round and try to drop the mag it wont drop free, not because of the break but the slide will drag the next round forward until it hits the frame. This is the only pistol I have that does this and was wondering if this is normal for a cz.

Does it do this with BOTH mags? Hi-cap mags (15 or more rounds)?

Sounds as though a mag spring is weak, and allowing the topmost round to move more forward, when the round should be held securely. You seldom see this with 10-round mags (which have the same springs, but which aren't as prone to wear -- as they do less work.)

If this is a new gun (still under warranty), contact CZ-USA. If not, try replacing the mag springs. www.gunsprings.com

You can also polish the underside of the slide -- the flat shiney area -- to make it more slick and less likely to grab the next round, when it slides forward. (This polishing is probably a good thing to do, regardless. If the spring(s) is/are marginal, this will help, but the problem will recur, later.)

 

[txgunsuscg]

If it's a Compact (capital "C") it has a steel frame, and is on the heavy side. The P-02 has the alloy frame, and is noticeably lighter.

I had a nice CZ Compact, with an extended slide release and beautiful custom grips. I found it too heavy, and eventually traded it away. (Wish I could find another one of those extended slide releases...)

The other gun in the photo is a full-size Sphinx DAO which is also very heavy. It's also heavy. While the Sphinx trigger was marvelously light and smooth, it was LONGER than I cared for, and I sold it. I still have a Sphinx Compact, but it'll probably go, one of these days -- as it's become a safe queen.

I have other guns I shoot more frequently (including a great CZ-85 Combat and a custom AT-84s).

It is the aluminum alloy frame.

http://czcustom.com/cz75bp029mmcompactomega.aspx

 

[Walt Sherrill]

Glad to see/hear that they've taken that route.

This isn't really a "Compact" with a Capital "C" -- as the Compacts have steel frames; it is, in effect, a P-01 with a safety. (And that's what it's called. Their use of the "C" rather than "c" was what caused the question/comment.

An alloy-framed P-01 with a safety (or a decocker) is arguably the BEST combination you can get for a carry CZ.

 

[chicharrones]

I have a CZ75 9mm when I chamber a round and try to drop the mag it wont drop free, not because of the break but the slide will drag the next round forward until it hits the frame. This is the only pistol I have that does this and was wondering if this is normal for a cz.

My 4 month old bought new PCR does the same thing with all magazines. It has the 14 round mags, two of the original CZ mags, and two Mecgar from CDNN.

Specifically, I notice this when stuffing in a full mag to load one in the chamber by racking the slide, then removing the mag to fill the mag back up to 14.

I do not know if this is normal or not. I do know that when the mag is full at 14 rounds, the mag does not rattle. If less than 14 rounds are in the mag, the ammo in the mag rattles.

So far, none of this has affected function except for the mag coming out when it still has ammo in it.

As a side note, I thought I saw somewhere on the web that the slide release's internal tab that engages the mag follower gets trapped under the bullet in the cartridge. I have both the standard slide release and a slide release from a P-01. The P-01 slide release has a shorter tab that engages the mag follower, but it has not decreased the problem.

I think I remember somewhere some photos of someone whittling down that tab until they cured the problem themselves. Found a link. http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=38489.0

 

[chris in va]

I have four CZ products now...carbine, Kadet, 75BD and 97b. All have been stellar, with a caveat.

I buy a CZ knowing it'll have a 'quirk' that needs fixing. It's actually a nice challenge for me, and rewarding when I can fix it myself. I've even solved issues that CZ couldn't find, like the mags in the carbine or the FTE with my 75BD. It's like discovering the key for a secret cypher code.

 

[KodiakBeer]

Are the triggers more smooth in a SA versus DA/SA mode?

Shorter and crisper would be better terms. But, for your purposes the SA trigger is a shorter reach than on the traditional DA/SA model. They've even added a straight trigger to shorten it further and give it a better feel.

 

[miles1]

Thanks to everyone that contributed to this thread.Bookmarking for future reference when i make my choice in january.On to a new thread concerning another contender for my money,Sig 226.

 

[CZguy]

Both good guns, but a world apart in price.

 

[leadcounsel]

Great pistols. You're overthinking it. Just get one.

 

[dondavis3]

I like my Sig P226 more than my 2 CZ's

It was a Swiss Police trade in in 9mm - I actually cost less than my CZ's because I bought them new.



Mine is a great shooter and is one of my favorite guns.

I had the slide job done by CCR for $79.

There are several P228's for sale at a great price right here

http://www.gunsamerica.com//952583994/Guns/Pistols/Sig-Sauer-Sigarms-Pistols/P228/Sig_9mm_P228_Black_Ice_Teflon_Slide_Swiss_Police_16_Shot_2_Magazines_1998_All_German_Sig_Sauer_.htm?wl=1

The P228 is the same as the P226 - if you're not familiar with it here's a quick easy read about the Sig P228P


http://remtek.com/arms/sig/model/228/228.htm

A lot of government agency's & law enforcement agency's use it.

Good luck in your search.

 

[meanmrmustard]

Minus all the Commie talk from the previous pages of this thread, excellent info on a superb firearm. For me, personally, the 75 is a battle pistol out of the box. It is my holy grail of handguns based on fit/finish, function, and accuracy. And as for the Commie 75, I just found one in my LGS last thursday. Four rounds fired at factory, 16 by shop owner, basically new. I had to bring it home. It is not only neat and a bit rare, I find it beautiful. If only I could post a pic with this IPad...

 

[Walt Sherrill]

The RED STAR version of the CZ-75 was simply a marketing gimmick. It was never used by Communist military forces. I doubt it will be collectible-enough to warrant keeping one unfired in the original box for years. (And if you're trying to sell to a collector, you'll have to do that.)

A far more desirable model, for me, is the retro version introduced a few years back -- it looked exactly like the 75 (as opposed to the 75B), with a rounded finger guard and different slide stop and grips. Much nicer looking weapon than the standard 75B with a warranty. I doubt it will be collectible, either, but a handsome gun.

 

[meanmrmustard]

I'm aware of the history behind the "Red Star" model, and I'm also aware of it's value. That said, there are only 999 made, and this particular pistol will be worthless to a buyer, as I'm not selling. Marketing "ploy" or not, it's a sharp pistol, and I don't recall saying any Russian ever used one, nor is that a prerequisite for my purchase. It commemorates the fall of the USSR, so good on them...

All that aside, I have one of these UNvaluable, UNcollectible handguns and damn proud of it. Don't envy me TOO much

Ps...it is retro, minus the ugly round trigger guard. I can easily live without that. But that spur hammer...awesome.