CZ-75B ; SA, DA, or DA w or w/o decocker?
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barneyrw
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I don't like decockers. I don't like anything being done automatically that I may or may not want done. When I put the safety on, that's what I want done. If I want the hammer lowered, I'll do it manually. I don't want my gun or anything else trying to do my thinking for me.
The Lone Haranguer
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Personal preference. Mine would be to have a decocker (suffixed "D"). It shortens the DA pull stroke and reach, which is otherwise very long for me, and operates just like the PCR I already have. Also, the standard safety on B models is not well placed or shaped for my thumbs.
Bozwell
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It's personal preference. The decocker gives you a safe way to lower the hammer on the gun. You can do so manually but I personally prefer to err on the side of caution. Is this going to be a carry gun? If so, go with the system you feel more comfortable with. If it's just a range gun, I wouldn't really worry one way or the other. You probably won't use either safety system for punching holes in paper targets.
I'll echo that it's all personal preference. I'll also add that there is something to be said for having a consistent trigger pull from your first to last shot. In this case, you'd be looking at a manual safety, allowing for cocked and locked functioning, or a DAO manual of arms (not sure if CZ even makes that). Again personal preference, but something to keep in mind.
JTQ
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My sentiments exactly. I really like the feel of the CZ 75B in my hand, but I have a hard time reaching the trigger in double action mode, and I find the thumb safety difficult to actuate if I plan on using the pistol as a single action only.
beatledog7
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Mine's just for range/target use, so it's a factory SA. If it were for carry, it would be a regular DA/SA.
But I actually prefer a DAO semi-auto or a DA revolver for carry, and that means I don't choose any CZ-75 for carry.
But I actually prefer a DAO semi-auto or a DA revolver for carry, and that means I don't choose any CZ-75 for carry.
I am not a huge decocker fan as I have no problem decocking a manual safety gun, and I liked the ability to carry C&L. I have both a 75B, and the PCR which is a decocker, and it doesn't bother me, so both variations work for me, but I'd rather the PCR have the manual safety instead, but it is not big deal.
1SOW
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I have a CZ w/o decocker and Sig with a decocker.
Personal preferrence is without the decocker.
Personal preferrence is without the decocker.
I think you have to decide on your primary condition before you buy. If you're going cocked & locked to match your other SA autos, get the standard 75B.
If you want to have it ready to go with the hammer down primarily, get the decocker model. I'm sure you know there is no safety on the decocker version. Basically it will handle like a Sig P220/P226
I bought the 75B a couple months ago. I'm used to Sigs and HK's, so the 75B is kind of in between. I really missed the decocker at first, but then I switched to C&L and don't decock on a live round. Basically I treat it just like a 1911.
My nest one will be a decocker version. Probably due to the sweet ergonomics and the trigger job, my DA/SA transition shooting has never been better, and I prefer DA first shot carry.
Decocking the 75B to the half cock/safety notch is easy with the gun loaded so you can have it either way with the basic 75B.
If you want to have it ready to go with the hammer down primarily, get the decocker model. I'm sure you know there is no safety on the decocker version. Basically it will handle like a Sig P220/P226
I bought the 75B a couple months ago. I'm used to Sigs and HK's, so the 75B is kind of in between. I really missed the decocker at first, but then I switched to C&L and don't decock on a live round. Basically I treat it just like a 1911.
My nest one will be a decocker version. Probably due to the sweet ergonomics and the trigger job, my DA/SA transition shooting has never been better, and I prefer DA first shot carry.
Decocking the 75B to the half cock/safety notch is easy with the gun loaded so you can have it either way with the basic 75B.
Cactus Jack Arizona
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I've had both CZ75B and BD. The B model has a little nicer trigger, plus trigger work can be done easier and cheaper without the decocker. Personally, I'm 50-50 either way, as long as it's a CZ. 
However, if I'm going to conceal carry it, I prefer the decocker. I'm not real comfortable with the cocked and locked type of carry.
However, if I'm going to conceal carry it, I prefer the decocker. I'm not real comfortable with the cocked and locked type of carry.Oldnoob
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It's definitely personal preference. But in general, most shooter prefer none decocker model. I personally prefer SA model.
maskedman504
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I prefer decockers in any platform that is not 1911.
chicharrones
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The CZ decockers are not a combo safety-decocker like on a Beretta 92 or a Walther PPK. The CZ decocker models have no manual safety whatsoever, so there is no safety that also decocks the gun.
chicharrones
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Since I don't like manual safety guns for my own concealed carry, I like the decocker version of the CZ 75. In my case, I have a CZ75D PCR. It works just fine for the range too.
Furncliff
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A de-cocker is something I would most likely not want. I bought my 75b on the spur off the moment. Given that all I use it for is the range, I would choose the SA next time.
Sergei Mosin
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I have always wondered why there is a DA/SA version with a safety. Do they really expect people to manually lower the hammer on a live round and carry that way? That seems very strange to my 1911-trained mind. DA/SA with decocker, sure; SAO with safety, absolutely. But DA/SA with safety?
1SOW
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Yes. Why not? It has a FP safety that requires trigger pull let the hammer move forward if that is the concern.
Are you against owning a DA revolver?
Furncliff wrote:
I don't mean to pick on you, Furncliff, because I have seen this sort of thing written many times before. Why would a single action only (CZ 75B SA) be more appropriate for the range, but not for CC? I have seen:
"If it were a range toy ..."
"If it were a sporting gun ..."
"If I weren't going to carry it ..."
"...I would get the SA."
Yet nobody hesitates to carry a Hi-Power or a 1911. I get that you can carry a standard CZ-75B cocked and locked, but by all accounts the SA trigger is better out of the box. Why not buy a CZ-75B SA for CCW???
I don't mean to pick on you, Furncliff, because I have seen this sort of thing written many times before. Why would a single action only (CZ 75B SA) be more appropriate for the range, but not for CC? I have seen:
"If it were a range toy ..."
"If it were a sporting gun ..."
"If I weren't going to carry it ..."
"...I would get the SA."
Yet nobody hesitates to carry a Hi-Power or a 1911. I get that you can carry a standard CZ-75B cocked and locked, but by all accounts the SA trigger is better out of the box. Why not buy a CZ-75B SA for CCW???
Sergei Mosin
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The only way to lower the hammer on a CZ 75, not equipped with decocking lever, is to pull the trigger and ride the hammer down with the thumb. As you say, the CZ 75B has a firing pin safety, so carrying one with the hammer down doesn't concern me - it's getting it there, on a non-decocker model, that concerns me. Lowering the hammer on a live round with one finger on the trigger and one thumb on the hammer strikes me as inherently unsafe.
If I wanted a DA capability or was uncomfortable with Condition One carry, I would buy a decocker model. I just don't see the point of a DA capability on a model equipped with a manual safety and without a decocking lever - the only way to utilize the DA capability on such a weapon is to first execute a maneuver I consider unsafe.
Sergei Mosin
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This is another thing I wonder about. If I owned a CZ 75 (which I will someday) and were going to carry it (which I would from time to time) I would carry it in Condition One. As the DA part of the DA/SA capability of the standard model is of no use to me, I might spend the extra money for the better trigger of the SAO model, unless there were some compelling reason not to.
chris in va
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I've had a 75BD since 2003. After buying my 97b last year, I now realize a decocker is just an added piece of unnecessary fluff. The safety version gives you two options, c/l or half cock...or even full down if you wish.
The average shooter/CCP holder isn't muscle trained to swipe off a safety before firing. It takes lots of practice, especially under duress. It took me a few matches to get the hang of it.
The average shooter/CCP holder isn't muscle trained to swipe off a safety before firing. It takes lots of practice, especially under duress. It took me a few matches to get the hang of it.
chris in va wrote:
I agree that every CC should practice with their firearm of choice, whatever that may be. But many many people seem to manage it with a 1911, so why not a CZ?
I'm in the market for a CZ to carry open and concealed. I keep coming back to the SA because of the improved trigger. I plan to carry condition 1, and I would be willing to trade the "second strike" capability and the versatility (which I wouldn't take advantage of 99% of the time) of the DA/SA trigger for the better single action trigger.
I promise I will practice with the safety before I carry it.
I agree that every CC should practice with their firearm of choice, whatever that may be. But many many people seem to manage it with a 1911, so why not a CZ?
I'm in the market for a CZ to carry open and concealed. I keep coming back to the SA because of the improved trigger. I plan to carry condition 1, and I would be willing to trade the "second strike" capability and the versatility (which I wouldn't take advantage of 99% of the time) of the DA/SA trigger for the better single action trigger.
I promise I will practice with the safety before I carry it.
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