CZ 75B vs. Sig P226

CZ 75B vs. Sig P226

  • CZ 75B

    Votes: 150 56.6%
  • Sig P226

    Votes: 115 43.4%

  • Total voters
    265
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kazaam

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In 9mm. Anyone have any opinions on which of these is better? The Sig is much more expensive. I asked this in another forum and the CZ 75B won overwhelmingly. Thanks!

(I should note i voted for the CZ 75B so i wouldnt have to view poll results each time. So its really 1 vote closer than the results indicate)
 
i have both and couldnt pick one over the other if I had too. equally great firearms.
not the answer youre looking for but the answer speaks volumes nonetheless.
 
Out of the box, SIG, no question. If you want to compare them after the CZ has had some trigger work, that's a tougher question.
 
My CZ needed no trigger work, and they wear-in well, anyway.

The bore axis of the SIG is much higher and may affect your accuracy. Both guns are very accurate and reliable. I like the steel frame on the CZ, but the slide grasping grooves are easier to use on the SIG. The CZ's design leaves more of the slide deeper in the frame, and some may have trouble getting a firm grip on the slide to cycle it.

More gunsmith here are familiar with the SIG. No cops use it, officially, and that leaves questions, although the Czechs having been commies until about 1990 may affect buying attitudes.

I've never owned a SIG, but my son and his wife do, and he has a CZ-75B, too. They like both brands.

As for the lethality of 9mm ammo, the son has killed nine men in Iraq with nines, and had to shoot a few twice. He thinks that HP ammo would have helped.
That being banned in "civilized" warfare, he had to use NATO hardball. He now usually carries a .45 by preference. (No longer in the Army.)

BTW, he says that he had full faith in both the Beretta M-9 and the Browning M-35 if the gun is well maintained and used with Beretta, FN, or Meg-Gar magazines. Most M-9 problems are due to sloppy maintenaince or cheap magazines.

I find the SIG P-229 a little top-heavy unless loaded. I played with the DIL's. But her P-239 seems a good gun for its size. May buy one. (That's two models, not a misprint.) I think they also have a 9mm P-226.

The cops here mostly have SIG's and like them, although those who know much about ammo don't like the 147 grain JHP's they have to use. Those guys usually opt for the .357 SIG .

I load my 92FS with Federal 124 grain HST or Hydra-Shok ammo and feel pretty confident of stopping an opponent with a CNS hit.

I suspect that you'll find overall QC better in the SIG's, but the CZ works well, too, and is darned accurate. It is not as safe, for you have to lower the hammer very carefully, as on a Colt 1911. But CZ makes a CZ-75BD version that drops the hammer safely.

I want to try the stainless CZ.
 
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For my money I'd go with the CZ + a trigger job and spend the extra $350 on other stuff.

I have a CZ75B, dead accurate and dead reliable.
 
Consider looking at who uses each. CZ's are quite popular in the competitive shooting community. That suggests that for a combination of speed and accuracy, they are a good choice. While Sig's are not nearly as common in competition shooting, they are quite popular with military and LEO users. That suggests that they do well under endurance testing where failures are measured in X-per-thousand-round increments.

If I were going to drag it through saltwater or river mud, bang out thousands of rounds without cleaning, go sliding behind cover with it on my hip, etc., I'd be inclined towards the Sig. If I were going to keep it clean and treat it reasonably well, I'd go with the CZ.

One other note. Unless you get the 75BD, the guns will have slightly different operations. The 75B safety is just that - a safety that can be applied with the hammer down or up. That opens the possibility of a cocked-and-locked condition, and it also means that one can create a situation where two actions (taking safety off and pulling the trigger) are required to make the gun go bang. The Sig has a de-cocker, which just drops the hammer without firing. There's no cocked-and-locked, and pulling the trigger on a loaded Sig will always make it fire. Reasonable people disagree (sometimes rather strongly) on which method is better. I happen to like the true safety.
 
I like the 75 because it fits me better. The Sig is "big" and hard for me to grip comfortably. The CZ feels like it was molded for my hand.
 
Police carry what ever is lightest. Reliability is important, but if two pistols are the same, police pick the one that is lightest.
 
ATLDave wrote,
Consider looking at who uses each. CZ's are quite popular in the competitive shooting community. That suggests that for a combination of speed and accuracy, they are a good choice. While Sig's are not nearly as common in competition shooting, they are quite popular with military and LEO users. That suggests that they do well under endurance testing where failures are measured in X-per-thousand-round increments.
That's probably worthwhile looking at who buys what, but my guess is competitive shooters put significantly more rounds through their pistols than law enforcement officers do.

Ash wrote,
Police carry what ever is lightest. Reliability is important, but if two pistols are the same, police pick the one that is lightest.
Light weight is important, but so is an aggressive marketing team. My guess is CZ hasn't done much marketing to the law enforcement crowd in the US as compared to Sig, Glock, & S&W. Now that CZ is producing the polymer SP01 Phantom (see armordman) and the P-07 pistols, that may change, but up until now I don't think they've pursued the law enforcement contracts with same zeal as Sig.

viking499 wrote,
I like the 75 because it fits me better. The Sig is "big" and hard for me to grip comfortably. The CZ feels like it was molded for my hand.
The standard Sig grip is a little chunky, but they now have the E2 grip and other styles of slim grips that are an improvement. Just grabbing the CZ in the hand does feel good, but it is a longer reach to the trigger on the CZ than the Sig and the reach to the CZ safety is more difficult for me than the reach to the Sig decocker.

There is no pistol I want to like more than the CZ, and I really don't care that much for the Sig, but because of the difficulty in accessing the controls on the CZ, for me, I'd pick the Sig
 
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That's probably worthwhile looking at who buys what, but my guess is competitive shooters put significantly more rounds through their pistols than law enforcement officers do.

Oh, no question. But competitive shooters generally take pretty good care of their guns. They clean them often. They change out parts. They like taking them apart and inspecting them. Most military trials don't do maintenance (or only very minimal maint) during endurance testing, because they assume the same will happen in the field. That's what I'm talking about.
 
I've had several CZ's and Sigs. Sold the CZ's and have no regrets. The Sigs are easily worth the extra money. I've found CZ's to be above average in accuarcy, but far below average in reliability and durability. By the time you spend the money replacing all the CZ's springs and getting trigger work they are pretty close to the same price, but for a range toy their accuracy is appealing.

CZ's aren't used by any major countries or LE agencies for a reason. Their slide inside the frame might be a reason for better than average accuracy, but I believe it also leads to less reliability. I know it makes it more difficult to clear malfunctions when they do occour. Their DA trigger has too long a reach for almost anyone and their SA pull cannot compare to a true SA like a 1911 or BHP. The safety is much more difficult to operate than those on guns desiged as SA guns.

Don't let internet an poll have too great of an influence on you. I bought my CZ's primarily because of the internet praise. Like many other things on the net I found they didn't live up to the hype. Remember, a handful of folks on the net can make a lot of noise, either good or bad, about a particular product.

When I talk to guys other than on the internet most have had similar experiences as me. LE agencies are simply not interested for many reasons. Where I live I couldn't find a dozen CZ's combined in every gunstore within a 75 mile raduis. I won't see more than 2-3 at the largest gunshows in the Atlanta area. If they were really that good, and selling at that price, people would be buying them in much greater numbers.
 
I never touched a 75b until the range last weekend...


Long story short, highly, and I do mean highly under rated firearm
 
Only SiG I ever really liked was the P-220 45ACP, oddly enough. I fired the P-226, foud it to be OK, but it didn't fit me nearly as well as the CZ grip ergonomics. When i worked on the rental range, the P-220 worked forever, the P-232 broke many springs, and the P-226 Liz was GOING to put on the line got sold instead.
My CZs have lasted quite well with many, many rounds through them.
Did someone mention my name and Phantom in the same breath? :)

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I voted CZ75 for no other reason then it fits my hands better. Both stellar platforms.
 
A 75BD would be a little more apt comparison to a P226, IMO. I don't have that gun combo, but I can tell you my 75D Compact - aka PCR - fits my hand and shoots far better for me than the similarly sized (they will fit in some of the same holsters, in fact) Sig P228 I had. The Sig slightly surpasses it in sight picture and SA trigger.
 
I have both and really enjoy shooting them both. I have to give a slight nod to the 226 because of the sweet SA pull.
 
I picked cz. My cz phantom with a cajun gun works hammer and spring upgrade is amazing. The SA is better than my 1911.
Plus with the polymer frame and slide design I get zero holster wear.
 
Not naming names here but you have to wonder, do people get paid to trash a certain brand? It appears one certain individual makes great effort in finding any posts in here that have anything
to do with one manufacturer in particular and he just unloads at every chance. He goes at it like it has to be done and/or he is getting paid to give the manufacturer a bad name.
You look up that brand in the search option and like clockwork he is in there posting about what a failure the guns are.
 
I had a 75 B rsr special...only reason i sold it was to get the new cz....very very great weapon...second to none in out of the box accuracy...very comfortable especially with hogue grips...only problem with mine was wen i put to much lube on it..it takes very little lube ...very very easy to field strip...my 5 year old cousin loves sitting there taking it apart and puting it back together....that being said i would not cary it ...its to heavy....i would get a cz rami or one of ther poly frames for that...as far as the trigger goes after about 500 rounds it gets pretty good....with a trigger job its one of the best

Also the czech republic uses them as their main service weapon last i checked..cz is becoming more and more popular all the time


With all that being said sig is still a great firearm and they make great weapons...cant really go wrong with either...
 
Both are excellent pistols. The one that is "better" will likely depend on your own preferences - which feels better to you... gives you a best/most natural point and aim. Which manual of arms do you prefer (they are different, especially if you are really looking at the CZ-75B and not the CZ-75BD)?

I admit that I am a Sig-nut, but the CZs have a special place for me. I have had a CZ-75B for almost 15 years now, and am strongly considering a CZ75 compact PCR or CZ P01. Both Sigs and CZs have been the most accurate pistols I have owned. And the most reliable - never had a problem with either. But, in the end, I carry Sigs pretty much on a daily basis, use them as my primary in IDPA matches, and for general plinking.

Again, get your hands on both, see if you can shoot them, and make the comparison which one feels best. And then go buy both ! :evil::evil::evil:
 
There are a few fellows who only come to the handgun forum to trash CZ's, generally with a cut-and-paste, but it is obvious by now.
 
It is going to depend on what your needs are. I haven't had the chance to shoot a Sig yet but the 75B that I have shot was real nice. I have been able to hold the Sig 226 and it felt alright. If it were me I would buy the CZ if I could find one and with the savings buy ammo and any "upgrades" I would want.
 
I have several CZs. I went to a lot of effort to track down a 226, because I was tired of this argument and I wanted to form my own first hand opinions. I got one, I like it its fun, accurate, and reliable.

Then I bought another CZ.



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Both very solid rigs and you can't be goin' wrong with either. For me, I'd take the CZ 75B, but wouldn't feel the slight bit under-gunned with the Sig.
 
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