CZ 75B vs. Sig P226
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They are equal in performance and build. The CZ offers a safety or decocker while the SIG only offers a decocker. If you like safeties, there is no comparison, go with the CZ. If you like decockers, go with the one that fits you best. The CZ will win in the price comparison, but a SIG remains a fine pistol.
meanmrmustard
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Sure do. It was early this morning, hadn't had coffee. Thanks for calling me on it.
Old Dog
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Geez, this thread's been around for more'n three months?
I love the CZ-75. IMO, besides the 1911, the sexiest-lookin' pistola out there (the high-polish stainless or satin nickel, to die for) ...
However, ergos for the SIGs work better for me, and I'd surely have to give the nod to the SIG P-226 as far as accuracy. As others have noted, the 226 can pretty much be counted on for stellar accuracy out of the box, while the CZ-75, though possibly close to its equal in reliability, is simply far more hit or miss as far as providing consistent accuracy.
'Course, if price point is a major consideration for one, I totally understand going with the CZ. But for duty carry, SIG, hands-down.
I love the CZ-75. IMO, besides the 1911, the sexiest-lookin' pistola out there (the high-polish stainless or satin nickel, to die for) ...
However, ergos for the SIGs work better for me, and I'd surely have to give the nod to the SIG P-226 as far as accuracy. As others have noted, the 226 can pretty much be counted on for stellar accuracy out of the box, while the CZ-75, though possibly close to its equal in reliability, is simply far more hit or miss as far as providing consistent accuracy.
'Course, if price point is a major consideration for one, I totally understand going with the CZ. But for duty carry, SIG, hands-down.
texgunner
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I've owned multiple models from both manufactures. I still have the Sigs, the CZs were sold or used for trade. CZ makes a fine pistol but the Sigs just fit me better. YMMV. You should try both if possible.
gotboostvr
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Played with a few Sigs, they seem like very well made firearms. They just never did it for me.
But I'm contemplating ordering up a CZ-75, just gotta figure out which variant. Probably a B for C&L carry.
But I'm contemplating ordering up a CZ-75, just gotta figure out which variant. Probably a B for C&L carry.
Walt Sherrill
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If C&L is your objective, just get the 75B SA (single action) version.
The SA model's trigger can be improved more easily, and can come with a two-way adjustable trigger (adjustable for both take up and over-travel), and has ambi-safeties that are larger. Same size and feel as the regular 75B, but a slightly different slide (mostly cosmetic) and a larger beavertail on the frame.
Partial to the SIG, am an armorer, and just threw a new spring kit into a LE trade-in. Less than $500 into an awesome piece.
Looking at the 75 Phantom out of curiosity-I saw the long-term test by TNP came out pretty good, and he's a Glock nut.
Where's a good CZ online shopping source?
Looking at the 75 Phantom out of curiosity-I saw the long-term test by TNP came out pretty good, and he's a Glock nut.
Where's a good CZ online shopping source?
razorback2003
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If you have small hands, the E2 grips are pretty nice on the Sig 226 and 229. Sigs seem to have a nicer finish than CZ. There must be a reason why the SEALS, British Army, and fed LEO agencies use Sigs. They are not cheap but they seem to be great guns.
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I use the CZ75B and the early version of the SIG P226 (and P228).
Both are as accurate, and utterly reliable as one another. Trigger pull weight is greater in the SIG and there is two phase pressure in DA mode due to the pull design but the hammer then snaps immediately. Trigger on CZ smoother due to push design but there's a slightly longer reach to the trigger in DA mode and there is a slight creep before the hammer snaps. However, these are minute differences that aren't noticeable in a fire fight. Both triggers can be improved to the point of being the best on the market with the CZ edging it because of the smoother push design.
The CZ fits my hands nicely although the tang can push against the webbing between thumb and hand; SIG is slightly fatter but the tang doesn't impinge onto the webbing. Both are comfortable though and come to aim very naturally and accurately.
I have found the CZ to be slightly more accurate than the SIG but this could be a result of individual variation (although other CZ's I've seen shot also seem to be more accurate). Both will easily do sub-2 inch groups of 5 shots at 25 yards with appropriate 9mm. Don't let accuracy make or break the deal - both will do it.
Design advantages of one over the other are as follows:
CZ75B:
1. Manual safety - can be carried cocked and locked. The safety catch is slick and not a problem to push down with your thumb prior to firing - safety off then trigger pull can be done instantaneously as one motion, after practice.
2. Slide runs inside the frame enhancing accuracy (I've had no problems with dirt - pistol still functions reliably) but also reducing bulk.
3. Steel frame (I prefer this over aluminium for weight reasons, so could be seen as a personal preference).
4. It's much cheaper (in Europe anyway).
SIG P226:
1. Decocking lever safer than pulling trigger and releasing hammer at same time in the CZ75B, although if the trigger is released immediately, the firing pin safety is activated, but it takes practice.
2. The easiest and simplest pistol in the world to field strip.
There's not much in it but I prefer the CZ over the SIG but both are seriously good pistols. I think my preference may have something to do with the CZ taking on some of the SIG P210 features and having slightly better looks, in other words, it's psychological.
Both are as accurate, and utterly reliable as one another. Trigger pull weight is greater in the SIG and there is two phase pressure in DA mode due to the pull design but the hammer then snaps immediately. Trigger on CZ smoother due to push design but there's a slightly longer reach to the trigger in DA mode and there is a slight creep before the hammer snaps. However, these are minute differences that aren't noticeable in a fire fight. Both triggers can be improved to the point of being the best on the market with the CZ edging it because of the smoother push design.
The CZ fits my hands nicely although the tang can push against the webbing between thumb and hand; SIG is slightly fatter but the tang doesn't impinge onto the webbing. Both are comfortable though and come to aim very naturally and accurately.
I have found the CZ to be slightly more accurate than the SIG but this could be a result of individual variation (although other CZ's I've seen shot also seem to be more accurate). Both will easily do sub-2 inch groups of 5 shots at 25 yards with appropriate 9mm. Don't let accuracy make or break the deal - both will do it.
Design advantages of one over the other are as follows:
CZ75B:
1. Manual safety - can be carried cocked and locked. The safety catch is slick and not a problem to push down with your thumb prior to firing - safety off then trigger pull can be done instantaneously as one motion, after practice.
2. Slide runs inside the frame enhancing accuracy (I've had no problems with dirt - pistol still functions reliably) but also reducing bulk.
3. Steel frame (I prefer this over aluminium for weight reasons, so could be seen as a personal preference).
4. It's much cheaper (in Europe anyway).
SIG P226:
1. Decocking lever safer than pulling trigger and releasing hammer at same time in the CZ75B, although if the trigger is released immediately, the firing pin safety is activated, but it takes practice.
2. The easiest and simplest pistol in the world to field strip.
There's not much in it but I prefer the CZ over the SIG but both are seriously good pistols. I think my preference may have something to do with the CZ taking on some of the SIG P210 features and having slightly better looks, in other words, it's psychological.
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OilyPablo
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I like my SIGs (I have four), nothing wrong with the CZ. I would say the SIG has a longer learning curve meaning it takes a bit longer to be able to drill bulleyes at 15 and 25 yards vs the CZ.
meanmrmustard
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How so?
OilyPablo
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Chubbie Sig grip, trigger position and pull, slide - to me Sigs have a bit of a learning curve. My P229 with Goncalo alves grips is a real beauty, my executive desk gun. I love it, yet I wouldn't recommend this gun to a first time shooter, for example.
I would be all over the CZ 75B if it looked as amazing as the P226 Elite Stainless. Its gonna end up costing me a ton extra and maybe (according to the slight majority of people at many forums) a slightly worse gun, but I need to satisfy my cravings lol.
meanmrmustard
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They make stainless 75s, that still cost less than the 226.
I've found that polished stainless is extremely hard to keep clean, it shows every fingerprint and scrape in direct light. The nickel finish is the way to go if you like the bright finishes but don't want something that is a PITA to maintain.
meanmrmustard
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There's always satin, if you can find it... I hate polished pistols myself. The satin nickel would be a better choice if keeping the aesthetics are a concern, plus, it's just plain pretty!
Sorry, I actually did mean satin nickel. The only pistol that I own now with a polished finish is the little Raven MP25 I bought several years ago...I had others but the polished finish is hard to keep presentable IMO.
I was thinking about my CZ75B when I posted that, which has the satin nickel finish. Easy to maintain and still slick looking.
meanmrmustard
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Absolutely agree, and at a much better price point than the 226.Sorry, I actually did mean satin nickel. The only pistol that I own now with a polished finish is the little Raven MP25 I bought several years ago...I had others but the polished finish is hard to keep presentable IMO.
I was thinking about my CZ75B when I posted that, which has the satin nickel finish. Easy to maintain and still slick looking.
That beauty needs some VZ Rosewood Tactical grips, call it a day!
sigarms228
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Good Lord Kazaam. "A slightly worse gun"
You are basing that on anonymous internet popularity polls/threads??
The P226 is one of the finest if not finest combat 9MM handgun on the planet.
You do realize that the P226 is the primary issue pistol for the SEALS? Possibly the most elite military unit on the planet who, I have read, have close to a million dollars training for each member and are equipped with the best of the best gear regardless of cost that will be used under the harshest conditions imagineable.
Anyhow congratulations as you made a great choice with the SSE P226 and I suggest that you think about quitting second guessing yourself for sake of your sanity and enjoy your new SSE P226!
I'd be hesitant to judge any weapon's value based on a military unit choosing it.Good Lord Kazaam. "A slightly worse gun"
You are basing that on anonymous internet popularity polls/threads??
The P226 is one of the finest if not finest combat 9MM handgun on the planet.
You do realize that the P226 is the primary issue pistol for the SEALS? Possibly the most elite military unit on the planet who, I have read, have close to a million dollars training for each member and are equipped with the best of the best gear regardless of cost that will be used under the harshest conditions imagineable.
Anyhow congratulations as you made a great choice with the SSE P226 and I suggest that you think about quitting second guessing yourself for sake of your sanity and enjoy your new SSE P226!
Anyways this poll isn't really a poll to show which is better, just what most would prefer. Most favor the CZ75B likely for the same reason that I do, because it is cheaper and does the same thing just as well (with a better trigger IMO).
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