Czech Republic: not just awesome guns, but awesome gun laws!

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  1. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator Emeritus

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    Most definitely, yes.

    But this is drifting pretty far off our subject matter here at THR. Maybe take up the beer & culture discussions via PM.

    Thanks!
     
  2. nyrifleman

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    I've been to Israel many times, and have friends there. Security guards ARE armed, and most shops/supermarkets have one. Also, soldiers get to take their guns home when they're off-duty.

    BUT...

    Unless you're a business owner, or live in the West Bank, it's very hard to get a permit to own or carry a handgun. Long gun, fuhggedaboutit! (The assassination of Yitzhak Rabin had a lot to do with that, I believe).

    Israel has CRAPPY gun laws (worse than many parts of Europe).
     
  3. armoredman

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    Sorry, Sam. But I do have a fascination for the guns and country!
     
  4. mortablunt

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    Israel doesn't have an RKBA like the Czech Republic or the United States. There, gun ownership is about having a need and a justifiable reason for a fitting arm. All the people carry there were either soldiers or police doing so in the line of duty. As for average Menachem, the right to have what gun he wants where he wants when he wants is not so present. I know there's more info in an older thread about Israel if anyone wants to dig it up.

    I'll have to try that next time :evil:
     
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  5. hermannr

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    +3 to the CZ's (I have 3 different ones, vz52, vz82, and vz85) and +6 to the Urquell. I do like my Colts too though.
     
  6. Beaux Nehr

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    It was really neat seeing the VZ52/57s that the (ceremonial?) guards at Castle Prague carried. I did a huge double take, as I'd never seen one before, and I was totally unfamiliar with that design.
    I thought they were shortened SVT 40s at first glance. :D
     
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    Interesting video. One question--Why is it that in a nine minute video, showing 30+ shooters, only three people are wearing eye protection?
     
  8. parsimonious_instead

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    Maybe they were wearing protective contact lenses?
     
  9. CZguy

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    I for one, am inclined to give them the benefit of doubt. :D

    And just assume that they were wearing protective contact lenses.
     
  10. PTK

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    I've noted that most people outside the USA don't seem to wear much in the way of eye protection. Most of the time you'll never need it, but I wear them for the same reason I own guns in the first place - you just never do know...
     
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    I've felt material from some of the firearms I shoot strike my cheek and forehead. Always felt glad I wore eyepro at the time and not "protective contact lenses." :)
     
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    I do think it's good to wear eye protection, at least when shooting an automatic. Plenty of us have been hit in the face with hot brass from an autoloading handgun with a poorly-tuned extractor....
     
  13. mortablunt

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    ^ Not all arms types tend to hit you in the eye. A semiauto rifle normally extracts to the right well in front of your face and revolvers eject no brass at all. Just saying...
     
  14. JackTheRipper

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    To be honest, I wasn't really knowledgeable about CZ weapons. What is their 'bread and butter' ? What are they well known for pistols, rifles? Anything specific?

    and a quick note about the beer, it is available in USA, but it's honestly a totally different taste, that is one beer that is clearly different from tap...
     
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    ^ The only way to get the Pilsner Urquell as it is meant to be tasted is to go to a bar in Prague and just ordder a .3L of the stuff. The stuff in the USA is nowhere near as good, and it's still damn good. Stateside, Staropramen is a good bet for Czech beer.

    The Czech arms feature more SVT's, Mosins, Tokarevs, and VZ-58's than US Sales. Most guns are cartridges over there are Combloc.
     
  16. armoredman

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    Jack, Jack, you never heard of the famous CZ 75 semi auto pistol? C'mon over to czfirearms.us and learn about the wild and wide open world of Czech firearms!
     
  17. Bohemus

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    About the eye protection: many ranges provide eyeglasses, but its catching up slowly - its niether mandatory nor popular.
    If you skim the photo thread I posted youll see there are far more 1911s than tokarevs. AR15s are also pupular - after all - we have three poducers (PAR, LUVO, V-AR) here. Not to mention I carry US made Ruger LCP daily.

    The beer: I second mortablunt, I wouldnt drink beer from that far as beer doesnt travel well. There are so many good (micro-)breweries in US, some of them even use Czech (Saaz) hop, malt and yeasts if you really insist on something Czech in you glass. Ale jestli přijedete, tak vás zvu na jedno;)

    Interestingly, CZ75 anniversary just made it to Czech TV news (24:50).
     
  18. armoredman

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    Bohemus, PM me on any US microbreweries you know of using your stuff. As for the anniversary, very cool!
     
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    According to Lidové Noviny 1 out of 6 deputies has gun, gun licences are even more spread.
    (only in Czech) http://www.lidovky.cz/vlastni-vas-poslanec-zbran-podivejte-se-f06-/ln_domov.asp?c=A120609_152109_ln_domov_ogo
    Interview with curent minister of finance who admits possesion of three guns: http://www.lidovky.cz/kalousek-ozbrojen-nechodim-ale-zbrojni-pas-mam-fqs-/ln_domov.asp?c=A120609_075601_ln_domov_jkz Glock 38, Luger and Brno revolver.
     
  20. LemmyCaution

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    While state laws in the US may allow carry by foreigners, federal law throws a huge wrench in the works, as visitors would not be allowed to import their own firearms without a huge amount of hassle, nor would anyone stateside be legally able to transfer a domestic firearm to someone who can't adequately fill out a 4473.
     
  21. smalls

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    You mean an FFL may not be able to. There's no reason why a non-FFL can't loan a pistol to a friend
     
  22. LemmyCaution

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    Unless you consider 18 USC 922 g (5) to be 'no reason,' uh, no. The topic is concealed carry by foreign nationals. Caveat B to the law referenced above covers the temporary loan of a firearm to any person for lawful sporting purposes. It strains credulity to assert that concealed carry for self defense will be considered a lawful sporting purpose by any federal prosecutor.
     
  23. Shoot66

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    Bohemus,
    Co takhle na dvě nebo tři? Nejraději plzeňské. :)
    Prajem všetko dobré z SK.
    Bývalý Čechoslovák a pražák.
     
  24. LKB3rd

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    In Alaska, Vermont and Arizona (I am not sure about that one, I believe it is a recent change to the laws), if you legally possess the firearm, you can carry it without any permit required. I don't think it is restricted to US citizens. Other states allow openly carrying without a permit, like New Hampshire for example. The traditional assumption is that criminals hide their guns, where honest men carry them openly. That has been turned all around with the permitting process and forcing concealed carry so as not to upset people who are afraid of guns.
     
  25. LemmyCaution

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    Yes, the trouble is that federal law supersedes these state laws.

    Please see 18 USC 922 y (2) and (3) to find out the legal requirements for foreign visitors to possess firearms under federal law.
     
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