D.C. Police to check drivers in violence plagued

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D.C. police set up 'military-style checkpoint' to stop criminals from entering neighborhood...


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/04/AR2008060402205_pf.html

D.C. Police to Check Drivers In Violence-Plagued Trinidad

By Allison Klein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, June 5, 2008; A01

D.C. Police Chief Cathy L. Lanier announced a military-style checkpoint yesterday to stop cars this weekend in a Northeast Washington neighborhood inundated by gun violence, saying it will help keep criminals out of the area.

Starting on Saturday, officers will check drivers' identification and ask whether they have a "legitimate purpose" to be in the Trinidad area, such as going to a doctor or church or visiting friends or relatives. If not, the drivers will be turned away.

The Neighborhood Safety Zone initiative is the latest crime-fighting attempt by Lanier and Mayor Adrian M. Fenty, who have been under pressure from residents to stop a recent surge in violence. Last weekend was especially bloody, with seven slayings, including three in the Trinidad area.

"In certain areas, we need to go beyond the normal methods of policing," Fenty (D) said at a news conference announcing the action. "We're going to go into an area and completely shut it down to prevent shootings and the sale of drugs."

The checkpoint will stop vehicles approaching the 1400 block of Montello Avenue NE, a section of the Trinidad neighborhood that has been plagued with homicides and other violence. Police will search cars if they suspect the presence of guns or drugs, and will arrest people who do not cooperate, under a charge of failure to obey a police officer, officials said.

The enforcement will take place at random hours and last for at least five days in Trinidad, with the option of extending it five more days. Checkpoints could be set up in other neighborhoods if they are requested by patrol commanders and approved by Lanier.

The strategy, patterned after a similar effort conducted years ago in New York, is not airtight. There are many ways to get in and out of Trinidad, not just on the one-way Montello Avenue. And pedestrians will not be stopped, which is something critics say might render the program ineffective.

"I guess the plan is to hope criminals will not walk into neighborhoods," said D.C. Council member Phil Mendelson (D-At Large). "I also suppose the plan is to take the criminal's word for it when he or she gives the police a reason for driving into a neighborhood."

Since taking over as chief in December 2006, Lanier has struggled with the issue of violent crime. She has added patrols, revived a unit specializing in getting guns off the streets and changed commanders in six of the city's seven patrol districts. Last weekend, officers were close enough in one case that they heard the barrage of gunfire coming from a triple homicide on Holbrook Street in Trinidad.

The program is aimed at the city's most troubled areas. The 5th Police District, which includes Trinidad, has had 22 killings this year, one more than all of last year. Since April 1, the Trinidad neighborhood has had seven homicides, 16 robberies and 20 assaults with dangerous weapons, according to police data. In many cases in Trinidad and across the city, gunshots are fired from passing cars, victims are found in cars or cars are used to make fast getaways.

"We have to try to take away the things that are facilitating the ability to commit crime," Lanier said.

Leaders of the American Civil Liberties Union said yesterday that they will be watching what happens closely and that legal action is likely.

"My reaction is, welcome to Baghdad, D.C.," said Arthur Spitzer, legal director for the ACLU's Washington office. "I mean, this is craziness. In this country, you don't have to show identification or explain to the police why you want to travel down a public street."

Interim Attorney General Peter J. Nickles said that his office reviewed the initiative and that similar efforts had survived court tests.

"I don't anticipate us being sued," Nickles said. "But if you do want to sue us, the courts are open."

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Catherine
 
Oh pul___leeze, oh please!

I guess that they figure the bad guys will NOT walk into certain parts of the District of Criminals.

Yeah, sure and right. NOT!

What a ridiculous situation and what a bunch of fill in the blanks.

Catherine
 
One more reason we need to build a giant bulldozer to shove DC into the ocean.
 
Oh come-on Tinygnat, you know about my whole chasing-down-the-mugger who turned out to be a murderer incident.

Hell there were 9 cops two blocks away and dispatch couldn't get 'em over to my location even with me on the phone giving specific directions/descriptions/location information.

And did I or did I not forsee EXACTLY this sort of action coming to pass in DC! It's why I got the hell OUT. Does that qualify me as the first refugee from the dictatorship of Washington DC?
 
Wow....just wow... So I guess the next step would be to enact a curfew, with anyone found outside after curfew is automatically classified as a criminal and fair game to be shot? Sounds peachy, that'll sure cut down on crime, and after all, who cares if you sh*t on a few civil liberties, it is after all FOR THE CHILDREN! Think of the Children!!


...$5 says they'll do it.....:(
 
Well, we've been saying it here for months.

All that stuff we are learning in Iraq is going to get put to use against us "citizens" here.

Thats what happens when your military starts pretending they're police.

And people call me paranoid.
 
Wow, the dog is miffed.....

As am I. He, however, has a way with words that quell the envy in my heart and make me smile like a baby that just pooped it's diaper.:D
 
Starting on Saturday, officers will check drivers' identification and ask whether they have a "legitimate purpose" to be in the Trinidad area, such as going to a doctor or church or visiting friends or relatives. If not, the drivers will be turned away.

Of course, they're all going to visit "friends".
 
I would think the ACLU and or NAACP would be all over this, and in this case, rightly so. Will they put yellow stars on some? :barf:

Very disturbing if you ask me. :(
 
Violating the Second Amendment does not reduce crime. Violating the First, Fourth, and Fifth, however, can be very effective. Sure, you end up with a police state--but lower crime.

The proposed scheme, though a clear infringement of Constitutional rights, probably does not infringe rights enough to be effective in eliminating (or even reducing) crime.
 
willbrink: ACLU already said that they are probably going to drag these guys to court, according to the article.
 
Violating the Second Amendment does not reduce crime. Violating the First, Fourth, and Fifth, however, can be very effective. Sure, you end up with a police state--but lower crime.

Not really when, with the swipe of a pen you've just criminalized entire portions of the population for their regular every-day behavior (which was legal before).
 
Thats what happens when your military starts pretending they're police.

I do NOT see how the two are possibly related. This is simply a police force who are conducting unconstitutional tactics. What the heck does the military have anything to do with it? I'll bet you all the idots and morons who are putting these types of actions together have never even seen military service. And the ground pounders who are out there actually doing the dirty deeds are in a very tough spot - do you give up your career and your family's well being because your frickin boss has put together an unconstitutional checkpoint?

I don't blame the blue uniforms for doing their job, so long as they acknowledge that, hey, I know it ain't right, but I got a family to feed. It's the bosses and pencil pushin' politicians that are to blame and need to be held accountable.

Now if a blue uniform guy actually believes in and supports these actions in ways other than just doing his job the best he can then he can kiss my a$$
 
If the criminals rise up to revolt against the police and start shooting them, I'm going to have a hard time choosing a side. This is so disturbing.
 
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