D.C. Police to check drivers in violence plagued

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I'm fine with it right up to the "the drivers will be turned away" part.

As long as they are stopping every car, or are stopping for a traffic violation they have the authority to see driver license and registration. Might deter the kids who steal a car a day to go joy riding. There is no reason why the police should not ask citizens where they are going and what they are doing. The citizens do not have to answer and many criminals will also not answer, but there are enough dumb/cocky criminals who will answer enough to provide leads. And we pay the cops to fight crime, we want them out in high crime neighbors talking to people, trying to figure out what is going on. We do not want them driving from one crime scene to the next, after the crime is committed, and filing out reports.

Denying someone’s right to drive on a public street for no reason, that is beyond their authority.
 
I wonder if Chief Lanier and Mayor Fenty have an exit strategy or whether this incursion will lead to permanent occupation of the disputed territory.
 
Oh come-on Tinygnat, you know about my whole chasing-down-the-mugger who turned out to be a murderer incident.
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Yup, I even know the cop who ended up testifying at his trial. He was a mean SOB.

Hell there were 9 cops two blocks away and dispatch couldn't get 'em over to my location even with me on the phone giving specific directions/descriptions/location information.
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Yeah, but that doesn't mean that undercover cops couldn't be effective. The DC cops did grab the serial stabber (the guy running around with a screwdriver stabbing people near the Navy Yard). I think uniformed cops would be a waste of time.

And did I or did I not forsee EXACTLY this sort of action coming to pass in DC! It's why I got the hell OUT. Does that qualify me as the first refugee from the dictatorship of Washington DC?
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Well, since 1960 DC has lost 30% of its population to the outlying suburbs. I don't think you're the first. :neener:
Sounds like you did the right thing for you though!
TJ
 
WOW is all that I can think of to say. I thought we were taught to learn from history so that we don't repeat it, not learn from history so that we may try it. It didn't work out so well for the Nazis. The scary part is if they do this and it ruled to be justified then will other places follow suit?


Welcom nach Washington D.C. Herr, kann ich bitte sehe Ihre Papiere?



"Welcome to Washington D.C. Sir, may I please see your papers?"
 
The Gestapo has arrived. This is the proof. This police action is not required by any law I know of. This is the police acting autonomously.

"PAPERS, PLEASE!"

Woody

Litany of blue, profane, derogatory, and truly felt explicatives withheld for the protection of our children and the tender of ear. B.E.Wood
 
This "surge" in gun violence could simply be the murderers getting their killing done before the DC gun ban gets shot down by the Court and the intended victims can shoot back.

Woody
 
I'm curious as to how this was upheld as well in some other preceding case in NY.

I'm kind of starting to actually root for the criminals in DC now. They seem to be the only free people left in that city from one perspective.
 
Police will search cars if they suspect the presence of guns or drugs, and will arrest people who do not cooperate, under a charge of failure to obey a police officer, officials said.
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the law says you must obey a LAWFUL order. not just any order. i don't have to obey an order to jump on one foot and bark like dog. and i'd sure like to know what is going to lead them to "suspect" guns or drugs. skin color? tinted windows? gold dubs?

"I guess the plan is to hope criminals will not walk into neighborhoods," said D.C. Council member Phil Mendelson (D-At Large). "I also suppose the plan is to take the criminal's word for it when he or she gives the police a reason for driving into a neighborhood."
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i like the way they assume that EVERYONE is a criminal. at least they're not discriminating right?

"We have to try to take away the things that are facilitating the ability to commit crime," Lanier said.
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hhhmmm, seems to me they already did? gun ban ring a bell? that worked wonderfully. maybe we should try taking away the criminals? nahhhh. just ban some more stuff and trample some more civil rights. that'll do it.


"I don't anticipate us being sued," Nickles said. "But if you do want to sue us, the courts are open."
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what a pompous a$$. i hope the ACLU tied them up in court for the next 10 years and bankrupts the city in legal fees.

Bobby
 
I'm kind of starting to actually root for the criminals in DC now. They seem to be the only free people left in that city from one perspective.
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That's what happens when the state becomes a bigger criminal than the criminals. DC is just one example. London and NYC are some others. Or any given airport. That's the pattern some folks hope to apply to the whole globe. We've already come to accept all manner of intrusions that would have prompted Andy Jackson to deliver a manbeating. Or a bullet.
 
Wow, this is really happening in America?! Guess we can strike out that line about "home of the free" from the anthem.

Looks like Pogo got it right a long time ago. "We have meet the enemy...and he is us".
 
metro DC/weapons...

I'd just avoid the entire area. I lived in central-NOVA in the early 1990s and the Washington DC police were a big mess then too, :mad:.

If they really want to stop crime/drugs/gangs then go after the CRIMINALS! Not John and Mary Taxpayer. How the top brass of the police force got this far with these idiot plans is way beyond me...

It reminds me of former DC mayor Kelly wanting National Guard hummers and troops on EVERY DC corner! WTH?:banghead:
 
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I wonder if Chief Lanier and Mayor Fenty have an exit strategy or whether this incursion will lead to permanent occupation of the disputed territory.
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Now thats funny. :p


PAPERS!! PAPERS!! VER ARE YER PAPERS!!!!

NOW THATS SCAREY.
 
Starting on Saturday, officers will check drivers' identification and ask whether they have a "legitimate purpose" to be in the Trinidad area, such as going to a doctor or church or visiting friends or relatives. If not, the drivers will be turned away.
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Well, heck. We may have to go to Iraq to exercise our civil rights.
 
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