Danish pizzeria bans French and Germans

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I appreciate those European countries who support the U.S. against Iraq. I am very disappointed with the Germans but am not surprised at the behavior of the French. It is also very gratifying to know that most of eastern Europe supports the U.S.
 
Trooper, you are entitled to your opinion but I reserve the right to boycott any products from Germany or France.
 
Trooper apologized for any vitriol in his sentiments, if not for the opinions themselves.

Perhaps we should restrain ourselves from further name-calling, having been apprised of that fact.
 
Leatherneck,

as I was sorta pissed-off and didn't choose my words carefully in my first post on this thread I'll answer you despite your name-calling.

What sort of trooper might that be?Or is it just wishful thinking?

Not really. I decided to choose this handle because I'm a police officer. I'm with the German Federal Border Police.

Does that answer your question?

BTW I don't insult you (or any other forum member) and I'd rather have you not calling me names either.


Regards

Trooper
 
I like the general sentiment but not the thought process. I'll bet the guy isn't the very brightest guy around.

If 60% of Germans were against the way (last I heard) that leaves 40-ish percent that are for it. So now the guy is banning folks that support the war. Now if he wishes to ask every person that enters his place if they support the war, then so be it. Of course, it is his place.

Any person that bans people from using their establishment because of what some of their countrymen or people that 'look like them' is a racist and shame on you guys for supporting it. :fire:
 
I support my government's effort to find a solution that doesn't involve all-out war.
Since 1991, the US and UK have been flying armed military aircraft over Iraq (the Northern and Southern no-fly zones). Iraq tries to shoot them down almost daily. We bomb their AAA and SAM sites almost daily. Sure sounds like war to me. Seems to me it is time to sh*t or get off the pot.

So, what are we supposed to do about this situation? If the US and UK stop enforcing the no-fly zone, Saddam will once again slaughter the Shias in the south and the Kurds in the north and Europe will yell at us for leaving them in the lurch. How much longer are the US and UK supposed to keep this up?

We can't tighten the embargo any tighter because 1) there's no stomach in the UN for that and 2) the current embargo is enriching Saddam and starving the Iraqi people. If we end the embargo, Saddam rearms, kills people in the north and south, and once again threatens his neighbors.

I'm all ears for a solution other than war. But we've had 12 years of the UN talking, the security council passing resolutions, inspectors being hoodwinked, Saddam defying the resolutions, and the result is still that Iraq is a threat, to its people, its neighbors, and through terrorism to the US and western world.

Do you remember back to Bosnia, when the violence started? The european powers told the US "No, this is our back yard and we're the new europe, we'll handle this." So they talked and talked and threatened and.....did nothing. The world watched while Serbia (mostly) and Croatia (partly) carried out "ethnic cleansing." Europe sent in peacekeepers who....were too lightly armed to defend themselves, let alone keep the peace. And in the end, who has to come in with the big hammer and stop Serbia? You guessed it, Uncle Sam. And, of course, we get all sorts of grief for 1) not doing so sooner and 2) doing it at all. Same deal in Kosovo.

The European countries won't (and can't, because of their meager defense budgets) carry out the trash. If we decide not to carry out the trash, they get pissed at us. If we decide to carry out the trash, they get pissed at us for doing it. If they ask us to carry out the trash, they tell us that we're doing it wrong. Sorry, but I've just about had it with the anti-americanism.
 
Trooper is just angry that Don Johnson slipped through their fingers. :D

Incidentally, I hope your Border Police are more effective than ours. But then again, with France on the border, you have no choice. :D
 
Incidentally, I hope your Border Police are more effective than ours.

Nah, don't think so. There are plenty of fine, motivated men and women in our agency but we're ridiculously underfunded. Most of our equipment (except cars, computers and night vision technology) goes back to the 80's. Besides this we're restricted by a lot of petty bureaucracy.

But then again, with France on the border, you have no choice.

I work on the Polish border which is actually worse. Illegal immigration in western direction, stolen goods being trafficked the opposite way, and here's the best thing about it: in a couple years Poland will join the EU and the Schengen treaty, the border checkpoints will be opened up and the bad guys will be thumbing their noses at us.


Regards,

Trooper
 
I work on the Polish border which is actually worse. Illegal immigration in western direction, stolen goods being trafficked the opposite way, and here's the best thing about it: in a couple years Poland will join the EU and the Schengen treaty, the border checkpoints will be opened up and the bad guys will be thumbing their noses at us.
That's one thing that I just don't get about the EU. Seems like they've opened themselves up to a huge amount of crime by no longer policing the borders.
 
Well, right now we still do police the EU exterior borders. What I meant was that when Poland becomes an EU/Schengen member they will take over the duty of policing the EU's eastern border.

And based on previous experiences I'm not so sure about the Polish security forces.

Additionally, a fair share of the bad guys we have to deal with are Polish, be they trafficking human beings into Germany or stolen cars out of Germany. They will soon be EU citizens who can travel freely from Warszaw all the way to Madrid.

This is not meant to degrade Poland or something. I just believe that Poland has some serious problems regarding organized crime and corruption which have to be solved before the country is ready to join the EU.


Regards,

Trooper
 
I support my government's effort to find a solution that doesn't involve all-out war.
Me too. Absolutely. War should never be the first option.
But our respective governments have tried for well over a decade to no avail. Do you propose that we just haven't tried for long enough?
I don't buy the "If you don't absolutely agree with us to the fullest possible extent then you're our enemy"-ideology.
Nor do I. And you are not my enemy.
That said, your government is (as is its right) attempting to stand in the way of our government in this issue. While they are certainly welcome to their opinions and even open opposition, this is not conducive to good foreign relations.

The good gentleman who wishes not to serve Germans or French is making a poor decision in my eyes. His efforts would be better directed at the ideology he opposes rather than the countries in which the majority are against this war. *shrug* But as it is the French and German government's choice to oppose the war, it is the Danish fellow's choice not to serve citizens of those countries.

Still, it is rather nice to have this wee bit of European moral support.
 
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