Darn Cabelas, had to buy a navy

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Been watching Cabelas for a sale on the "yank" navy and there it was so "Happy Father's Day" to me.
What a good time shooting it, bought 50 lbs of lead today on Craigslist and a mold coming from amazon. Made wads last night and load of balls to play with.
Just wish I caught the sale in April, even cheaper:)
 
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even a blackpowder forum polices symbols, I must be getting old. Time to go back to the woods and shoot before all this is a memory.
 
Watch the language, even if you use an * sign. You are bound to get an infraction for that.
Off thread sure wished FB did the same thing. My grand daughter is on that daily. A good expletive is OK now and again but some people can't express them selves unless they be spewing filth.

Kudos to THR for policing the language.
 
I apologize for my post and will put the phone down when I get excited about a new item.

God bless you all

mod please delete this post
 
i want to be careful in my reply:)

use, if I remembered right, 1/4" felt( bought about 2 yds, grandkids will be punching out wads long after I am gone). Then I soak them in a beeswax, tallow mixture, and they work great. Before I made any for the navy I punch some and used bore butter and the barrel was quite dirty, used the beeswax mixture and very little lefted in barrel.
I am new to revolver blackpowder so this is a lot of fun, have a walker, army,new army, and wells fargo. Each one is a "hoot" to shoot. Now I need to start sending each one to have Mike bless them with his amazing talents
 
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Darn Cabelas, had to buy a navy.

Been watching Cabelas for a sale on the "yank" navy and there it was so "Happy Father's Day" to me.

If this is the one

http://www.cabelas.com/product/shoo...volvers/_/N-1115735/Ns-CATEGORY_SEQ_567338580

That is my next purchase. I need an 1851 Navy 3rd model replica with a steel frame and round TG, but I need a newer one that does not have the Pietta tail, possibly a 2015 [CN] date code or newer.

Post some pics, please.

I have a 2014 [CM] Pietta 1851 Navy .36 that has the tail, which I find to be innofensive and it fits my hand well. I purchased a squareback TG from Taylor's in order to replicate a 2nd Model pistol.

Also have Pietta G&G [CN] with the part octagon/part round barrel.

With that expected Pietta 1851 new purchase, I also purchased a Pietta G&G so that I may swap barrels and cylinders between the pistols to create a G&G, an 1851 Navy squareback 2nd Model, an 1851 Navy 3rd Model, a Leech and Rigdon, a Schneider and Glassick, and many other "fantasy" 1851 type pistols.


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Lots of plans ahead, to include a possible Pietta Dance and Brothers .36 revolver.

Jim
 
I've heard "the tallow of the lamb" (not to be confused with "The Silence of the Lambs") is a great combination with some bee's wax to make black powder lubricant for wads and patches. Seems to be something about the lanolin content that makes it cut through the fouling and do a good job in general.
 
why yes that is the one, will post photo
Made about 200 .380 round balls today, my wife thinks I am nuts
The tallow and beeswax works great for fouling.
Only issue the barrel has to be tapped to seat on the pins.
If anyone knows if this could be an issue please let me know
 
Thanks, I was wondering where you got the felt, and how you confirmed it did not have any synthetics, like plastic, in it.

I'm new to this also. Have a 1851 Navy .36 and 1851 Navy Confederate .44 Sheriff. Haven't even fired the .36 yet (my FD present).
 
http://www.durofelt.com/
Sheet of felt 48" X 36", 1/8 inch thick, hard density (Item FM1836H) ... or

(FM18H) which is 12" wide x 24" long x 1/8" thick, hard density

Lubricate with Gatofeo lube:


Gatofeo No. 1 Lubricant: Homemade, and worth the effort
« on: July 16, 2011, 01:27:16 PM »
About 1998 I began posting a 19th century bullet lubricant recipe that, when assembled with very specific ingredients, works exceedingly well with black powder. It must be made, as no one offers it commercially.
Within a year of my posting it with ingredients I specified, someone else named the recipe after me: “Gatofeo No. 1 Lubricant.”
“Gatofeo” means “ugly cat” in Spanish – and I’ve been grinning like a drunken Cheshire at the honor.

The recipe I posted – when made with the specific ingredients I list below -- equals or exceedss SPG, Lyman Black Powder Gold or other commercially made black powder lubricants and is cheaper to make than buying the commercial stuff.

Many have attested to its excellence on other message boards, particularly when soaked into 100% wool felt wads for use in cap and ball revolvers. It’s also a good bullet, patch and shotgun wad lubricant with black powder.

The recipe is:

1 part mutton tallow. I buy mine from Dixie Gun Works, which offers it again after months of unavailability. This is the toughest ingredient to find, but worth the search.
There’s something almost magical about mutton tallow. It doesn’t go rancid and it really keeps black powder fouling to a minimum.

1 part canning paraffin -- the same paraffin used to seal preserves in jars, sold at the grocery store in 1 lb. packages containing four slabs. Gulf is a common brand. Hardware stores with canning sections have it too.

1/2 part real beeswax -- Beware of today's toilet seals, which are not real beeswax but petroleum-based. Get real beeswax, not the synthetic stuff. Though hobby shops may carry small cakes of beeswax, it’s expensive. Your best bet to find it will be at “Mountain Man” Rendezvous, Renaissance Fairs and from local beekeepers.
Check the net for reasonably priced beeswax. I’ve also seen it offered occasionally, at a good price, on Ebay. Can’t find a local beekeeper? Call your county extension office in the government pages; they’ll have a handle on who rides herd on bees in your area.
Toilet seals haven’t been made from real beeswax for at least 10 years, near as I can tell, and perhaps much longer. Check the label, if it doesn’t say “beeswax” it’s almost certainly synthetic and should be avoided.

All parts are by weight, not volume!
I measure out 200/200/100 grams on a kitchen scale, toss the ingredients into a wide mouth Mason jar, and set the jar in 3 or four inches of boiling water for a double-boiler effect to melt it. When thoroughly melted, mix well with a clean stick or disposable chopstick, then allow to cool at room temperature.
Do not try to hasten cooling by placing the jar in the refrigerator, or the ingredients may separate.

The result is a medium hard lubricant that keeps black powder fouling soft and eliminates or reduces leading. No refrigeration is needed to store this lubricant; just tighten the lid on the jar and place it in a cool, dry place.
I have lubricant I made in 2002 that is still like-new, stored in a tightly sealed jar. Mutton tallow does not go rancid like other natural fats, or at least not as quickly. The mutton tallow I have on hand was purchased in 1998; it’s still good.

The above recipe is not quite invented by me. I found the ratios in a very old factory recipe that listed only “tallow, paraffin and beeswax.”
The Gatofeo No. 1 lubricant calls for very specific ingredients: mutton tallow, canning paraffin and real beeswax. Any deviation from these three specific ingredients results in an inferior lubricant.
Let me restate: Do NOT substitute lard, Crisco, old candles, deer tallow, bacon grease, bear fat, vaseline, synthetic beeswax or anything else – it won’t be as good as these three in combination. I know, because I’ve made small batches of variants and others have tried other ingredients, reporting back that the lubricant worked okay, but not as well.

To lubricate pistol and rifle wads or patches, melt a little lubricant in a tuna or cat food can at a very low temperature on the stove. Add the wads. Two tablespoons of lubricant will easily lubricate 100 .44-caliber wads. Stir the wads until they soak up plenty of lubricant.
Turn off the stove and remove the can. Allow the lubricated wads to cool to room temperature. Snap a plastic pet food top (sold in the pet food aisle) over the can.

Write .44 Greased Wads (or whatever) on the side of the can with a wide marker. Store the can in a cool, dry place. You can easily bring the can to the range in your bag. When you get low on greased wads, simply place the can on the stove at very low heat, add more wads and lubricant, and recharge your stock.

The cans stack on top of each other on the shelf. The plastic lid keeps out dust and critters, and holds in the lubricant’s moisture. It’s a quick, easy, transportable system to make and use the greased felt wads. The same system can be used for unlubricated wads, small parts, balls, conical bullets or whatever you need to organize.
Plastic, pet food lids are inexpensive. Check a Dollar Store or its equivalent for a good price.

Smaller quantities of greased wads are easily carried in Altoid sour candy tins or shoe polish tins. Both types have indents or keys to open the lid easily with greasy fingers, and that’s important. Trying to pry open a greasy lid with greasy fingers, without some lever or side-indent, is maddening.
Hinged tins are not as good, because moisture escapes around the cutout for the hinges. The Altoids sour candy or shoe polish tins seal tightly.
Zip-Loc bags are also good for holding small amounts of wads (greased or dry) for the range but I most like the cans. They seal tighter and resist damage to their contents.

Gatofeo No. 1 Lubricant is good for a variety of black powder applications. I also use it for heeled bullets in my Marlin Model 1892 in .32 Long Colt caliber, over small charges of smokeless powder, and in my .44-40 rifle bullets over black powder or smokeless powder.
Give Gatofeo No. 1 Lubricant a try. I haven’t found anything better for lubricating the felt wads and Lee conical bullets in my cap and ball revolvers
 
Only issue the barrel has to be tapped to seat on the pins.
If anyone knows if this could be an issue please let me know

Tapping it in place, No. She'll be real tight at first but will gradually work itself in.
 
thanks for posting the about the felt, been looking through my credit card slips to see who it was. Plus it is 1/8 not 1/4" what I got too, got to stop sniffing the powder before i shoot.
 
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