Davis target of California recall effort (time to fight back)

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Redhead,

Can you tell me how many signatures you collected on the vetothegovernor.org petition to get an initiative on the ballot to get an equivalent to the 2nd amendment into the California Constitution? The website is down now. Did you even know about it? We got around 680,000 signatures. Needed 750,000 at least. There are millions of gun-owners in CA. You tell me why enough signatures could not be collected?

That was our best hope of turning this around and we the "energized" couldn't get enough signatures. Actions speak louder than words. I saw a few people active but the majority were oblivious just as they are now.

It amazes me how many people still don't know about the HSC, or any other of the restrictions rammed down Californian's throats in the last 4 years. We got the questions on TFL and here every week about it. People are so oblivious they are just now finding out what started happening when Gray Davis came in and got a majority Democrat Legislature.

With people like Jack Scott, Kevin Shelley, Sheila Kuehl and a host of others in the Legislature, you have a tough row to hoe. Likely, you will not get a Republican even if Davis were re-called. Well, maybe a RINO like Riordan who will change nothing.

Good luck to you. No one dislikes Davis more than I do. Until you can turn the apathy around in the gun-owner community, Davis will serve out his term and Cruz Bustamonte will be elected after him.

Time will bear it out. Fight for change. I did when I was there. I wore myself out like many others. I left a year ago. Not really because of the lack of freedom, but that was a factor.

There's a great site for CA news on guns. It's now called Gun News Daily. Used to be CalNRA.org. You can still get to it using that address. Try it www.calnra.org

Here is the continuation of the Constitutional battle. Help out. Until you get this changed at the Constitutional level, none of these anti gun laws signed by Davis have a prayer of being re-called.

http://www.caproprkba.org/status.html

Russ
 
I'm aware of the CAPropRKBA.org website, and have signed up. I will do what I can.

Can you tell me how many signatures you collected on the vetothegovernor.org petition to get an initiative on the ballot to get an equivalent to the 2nd amendment into the California Constitution?
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None, Russ, I collected none. I was not a gunowner at that time, I didn't know that there wasn't a right to keep and bear arms in the California constitution, I wasn't politically active then, and I had health problems. Things have changed for me now. I've learned a lot, and I'm fired up. I am not ready to roll over and give up.

People ARE oblivious to the rules and regs that are getting rammed down our throats, until they run up against them. Some get mad :fire: , and many just shrug and comply, with the atittude that's it's no big deal. I got fired up when I went to buy my first gun and ran into the restrictions, which have only gotten worse. I have no idea if there are enough people to make a difference now, or not, but like I said, I'm going to try. I couldn't live with myself if I didn't. Maybe I'll run myself into the ground trying, but I'm going to try anyway. Maybe I'm just beating my head against a wall, :banghead: but it's my head.
 
Redhead,

CA needs many more like you. When I was there, and I lived there for 45 years, I took action whenever I could. The pol's there don't seem to care about the letters you write to them but at least you can say you tried. I did too.

Your attitude is the way it should be. The old saying goes if you don't vote, you have no right to complain. With the gun issue, since Davis came in, it requires more than the vote although that is your most powerful tool. Writting letters, even if ignored, talking to and hopefully persuading others and supporting NRA, GOA and whatever else that may help.

Unfortuneately after so many set-backs, I have grown pessimistic about California.

I hope you can get that bum Davis thrown out. He has been bad news for California for well over 30 years. One good thing that has come out of his bungling, is that he will never be President. That was his eventual goal.

Anyway, keep fighting. Get that Constitution changed. Here in Kentucky, it is even more clear than the federal Constituion that we have the right to keep and bear arms. Sure puts a stop to the power hungry politicians in a hurry. I hope you can get the same for CA and get someone in the Governorship that will stop the insane anti gun policies. I long for the days of Pete Wilson! The last Democrat California had as Governor was Jerry Brown. They called him "Governor Moonbeam". He was a disaster for the State as well but he didn't go after guns like Davis has.

Russ
 
Thanks for your reply, Russ. I get pretty passionate about some of these issues. I'm not a California native, I grew up in and lived most of my adult life in Idaho, so Cal is quite a cultural change for me.

I know people who are gun owners who won't lift a finger to write a stinkin' letter to state legislative committee members when they are proposing yet another reprehensible gun law. I even give them the contact information, and a sample letter I wrote. It doesn't even take a lot of time. I write my letter, leaving the salutation blank, then fill in who it goe to, and fax it to the little legislative skunk. Then I'm ready for the next one: change the salutation, fax another. I can fax from my computer, doesn't take long, and my phone bill reveals it only cost .10 in long distance charges to Sacatomatoes. Cheaper than paper, envelopes and stamps, and I can send a FAX to all of the committee members in just a few minutes. If they get enough communications, it does make a difference. Not always, but sometimes. What's with people who claim to be concerned about the direction this state is taking and rail about the restrictive laws, but can't bother themselves to FAX one stinkin' letter?!! :cuss:

You can probably imagine what I'll have to say to them when the day comes when the storm troopers come to THEIR houses along with mine and take our guns.
 
Readhead,

It was good you pointed out that you are faxing the letters. The legislator's staff have to deal with faxes and letters but they ignore e-mail. So by faxing you are getting trough.

Aren't those guns they will come for the ones that fell overboard when you had that boating accident in the Pacific?

It has to be quite a culture shock coming from Idaho which is a relatively free state. I am a CA native and it was a shock to me when I came to Kentucky. It's like a candy store here! All those guns I always wanted are available. Now it's too hard to decide which to get next depending on the money situation. I always tell my wife and kids that the next one will be my last. They tell me I already have enough guns. Anyway, they all know I lie and it's cool. I'm guessing they will thank me when they inherit them someday. My guns have faired far better than my 401(k) over the last few years.

If you succeed in getting Davis recalled, you will hear me laughing from 2000 miles away. Good luck.

Russ
 
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