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No data hs been released that I am aware of. A few articles were out last month about the OLD Green ammo"
That's why I advocate it - M855 seems plenty accurate for general issue use. Just not lethal enough...
spuscg the SCAR is a good idea, reliable, 7.62mm, it comes in a cqc model for room clearing, a sniper model for dm...
In an urban counterinsurgency role, you're right, they aren't particularly useful. But they are not nearly as useless as an XM-8 or SCAR would be in an air-superiority or strategic-bombing role.We WOULD have the money if we'd just cancel production and operation of the practically useless F-22 and B-2 fleets...
We WOULD have the money if we'd just cancel production and operation of the practically useless F-22 and B-2 fleets...
Combine the one with the other, and the contention from a lot of been-there-done-that combat solders that "poor lethality" is really about "poor accuracy" in most cases seems more and more likely. Unfortunately, a bigger round with fewer rounds in the gun will not effectively address that issue at all (much as I like 6.8 Rem SPC and think we should have adopted the British 280 round 50 years ago . . .). Better training (which of course costs $$$) or improvements in optics or other kit to increase odds of hitting the target at all would seem to be the more helpful approach.
I've seen it argued that all the multi-shot, flechettes, caseless 2000 RPM burst and other assorted sci-fi concepts from the ACR program were essentially rendered obsolete by the availability and fairly low price of modern electro-optical sighting systems.
The original plan was to have them out in 1st quarter 08. Then second quarter 08. Now it's first quarter 09. My point is not that they're missing timetables (though they are), because these things happen when you move from producing something yourself to selling the design to someone else. My point is that a great design does not translate into a great product 100% of the time, and we have not seen one single production gun. Saying the military should go with the Masada/ACR at this point is nothing but pure optimistic speculation.bushmaster said they were going to get um out in january or sometime early next year, when i e-mailed them. lets start a thread about them then...
An optical sight magnifies performance. If it is already known that the G11 gains a better hit percentage than the M4, what changes when both rifles are equipped with the same optic? NOTHING, the G11 will always be better. I'm not making a case for the G11 rather I am trying to explain if a rifle is so unorthodox in its mission to increase hits/accuracy and does a better job than what's standard at the moment, optics only magnify performance.
Basically, it only gets better.
Refit a semi auto only M14 with an adjustable synthetic stock, 14 inch barrel, foregrip, and an optics rail (with a combination red dot/ACOG), chamber it in 6.8mm and shazam - new battle rifle.