Defensive use of the pistol

[mercop]

Even better is shooing while both you and your target are moving

As soon as we installed our mover the first thing officers said was how they shot with both eyes open and concentrated on the target more than their sights.

 

[Duke of Doubt]

JDoe, ideally I would recommend live fire exercises. These are not available to most people, and so most people cannot be trained as I would recommend.

Further, I would recommend training in non-gun hand to hand combatives arts.

I'd also recommend spending a lot of time shooting real guns at multiple targets under a wide variety of conditions at the gun range and in open country.

Shooting BB guns or paint at one another is not "combat." Of any kind. Hence, my recommendation of hand-to-hand combatives training mixed with gun range time, or ideally, live fire exercises.

It may simply be a fact of life that most people will have little or no opportunity usefully to train for firearms combat. And frankly, at some level, nobody is fully prepared unless and until that happens. The first time I had a loaded gun stuck in my face by an assailant, right then and there I lost any interest in or respect for "combat simulation".

 

[mercop]

Having been involved in real shootings I agree with you to a certain point. You inoculate people the best you can.

Too many gun carriers ignore combatives and that is a mistake.

 

[Duke of Doubt]

It's a matter of taking inspiration and making rapid fallible decisions under impossible pressures.

I saved my life in the episode I alluded to, simply by opening my freezer door (the encounter occurred in my kitchen). While obviously the freezer door would not stop a speeding bullet, it blocked my assailant's view of my face and upper body. The assailant attempted to close the door, which required the assailant to remove one (1) hand from the gun. This gave me the opportunity to grapple for the gun, which discharged in a relatively safe direction. The .44 round penetrated several inanimate objects and came to rest, quixotically, in the middle of the floor. This development was SO unexpected and shocking that the whole encounter stopped dead. The deafening roar of the .44 in a pretty tight space contributed to the mutual shock, I'm sure. I dumped the remaining rounds, and the encounter was for all practical purposes over -- all thanks to a freezer door. Now where is THAT crap taught or simulated?

 

[mercop]

Duke, that is one of those stories you just can't make up. Glad you are OK and had the presence of mind to think outside the box (ice box that is)

 

[Old Guy]

Mercop,

Does your mover move at the shooter?

 

[mercop]

It was the departments and now retired I do not have access to it. The one we had did not move at the shooter. I have shot at ones that did and feel that having a live person coming at you knowing they can make contact with you is more stressful.

 

[Old Guy]

OK

Air Soft/Real rounds, mover coming at you! You need both.

You will have contact with air soft! But the real thing normally starts static "Give me your wallet" Then it starts, sometimes you win sometimes you loose, sometimes you half win.

We had a shooting in a Car Wash, wash your own type, Orange Blossom Trail, Orlando, two would be robbers, "give me your wallet" two robbers, a sawn off shotgun, washer, gun drawn, hits to chest, fled 50 ft. dropped to the ground, dead right there.

Several of these credited to same pair, no more. How can you duplicate drawing on a shot gun in hand? As a game you would loose, in reality, he did not.