Delta Elite 10mm

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I was just at the Ohio Gun Collectors show yesteday and found a early 90's Delta Elite 10mm.(Blued) The guy selling it said it was his grandfathers that just passed. He said about 50 rounds was fired thru it and that was it ,and put in the safe for close to 20 years The Colt looks like new , with box and papers that came with it. I went back and forth and finally had to have it.
He wanted $1000 and i offered $900 and he took it.
I could have over paid on this one, but i had to have it. what do you guys think?
Thanks
 
That price is not bad. Bud's sells new ones for $878.

Buds is out of stock according to their website, and that price was from when they last had them in stock, I'm sure if they did get more DEs in they'd be asking more today.
 
I think that is definitely about as good of a price you'd find on a slightly used old production model. I always regretted not buying one during the original production run and couldn't make myself pay the used prices since. I got one of the new ones, but they don't make them in blue now.
 
Congrats. Love to see some pictures when you get a chance. Sounds like a good price to me I've seen some pretty outrageous prices on ones I've seen at gun shows.
 
WE NEED PICTURES:Other then that you'll love it and Congratsbanghead::banghead:. Here's mine, one of my favorite carries. Custom work by Chuck Warner. CWarner on this site. IMG_1965.gif
 
Buds is out of stock according to their website, and that price was from when they last had them in stock, I'm sure if they did get more DEs in they'd be asking more today.

nah. that's what they go for in my local shops. see them quite often, actually. they're not hot sellers and usually stick around for a while.
 
On the good end of fair, I'd say. I've seen nice Deltas for $800, but also upwards of $1k, just depends on the day.

Seems that average asking price for nice ones is typically ~$1,000.

My sister gave $600 for hers with an extra .40 S&W compensated barrel, but she also worked in the gunshop.
 
nah. that's what they go for in my local shops. see them quite often, actually. they're not hot sellers and usually stick around for a while.

Oh yeah, good deals can be found, but I don't think you'll find many steals at Buds, when I've been there everything is MSRP and I think MSRP on the DEs is around $1200. That's on the Stainless ones anyway, they don't make the blued models anymore.
 
Not too shabby. I've seen it written that certain parts of the 1911 just cannot take the beating a 10mm deals out. I'll be interested to hear how it is holding up after another 200 rounds or so.

I hope you handload, or you'd better get ready to grab your ankles when you go to buy ammo, hehehe. All the brick & mortar places are marking up ammo lately. I went to buy a box of 9mm Mak, thinking I'd be willing to pay 50% more to buy it locally. ($15 instead of $10 for regular old blasting ammo) They wanted $30. 300% mark-up?! "No thanks." says I, and walked out. I bet they'll be sitting on that box until they lower the price.
 
Not a bad price, but if you bought the gun for a shooter, the base government model delta elite wasn't that accurate. You can expect 4-5 inch groups at 25yrds. with it.

The 10mm gold cup was about the only one that can from colt that was accurate right out of the box.

To make the base government model accurate you needed to change the barrel, to a match quality hand fitted one.

I owned the all three colt 10mm models in the late 80's blued & stainless base models and one stainless gold cup 10mm, sold them all in the mid 90's. The 45acp was a better choice for the 1911 platform

The current 10mm kimber would have been a better choice.
 
The DE problems are well documented and you can learn all you want by searching this forum and others. Basically your gun is fine, as are most guns that made it to the public's hands. Lots of BS out there circulating about the DE's falling apart, don't worry about it, just shoot your gun.

My Delta is below, paid $660 otd and made these wood grips myself. No box with this one but the original grips did come with it and 2 mags. I consider mine a lucky find but took some risk with poor pics on GB. For lnib with box $900 isn't bad at all. Nice find.

Check CDNN for more mags if you need them. They were super cheap last I checked.

The 1911 platform is fine for 10mm and for some reason my DE shoots softer than my DW RZ-10. I like the DE far more, rattles like a rattletrap which too many people whine about but its been more reliable (100% so far for the DE) and was way cheaper. Accuracy on the DE is a hair less than the RZ-10 but its better than 4-5" groups and mine is stock. Similar accuracy to my S70 Colts in 45, just more fun. I should add that the RZ-10 works fine now but took some tweaking in multiple areas.

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the 1911 design is over 100 years old. i would choose other platforms for the high pressure 10mm.

Utter nonsense.

If there were any inherit problem with the 1911 handling the 10mm cartridge, why would at least three reputable companies offer them?

Why would VERY knowledgable gunsmiths like Ted Yost, Chuck Warner and many others continue to accept them as base guns and put countless hours of customization work into them?

Why would VERY knowledgeable shooters continue to use the Delta?

Why would VERY knowledgable shooters continue to pay gunsmiths to customize them?

-Matt
 
There is nothing wrong with using a 1911 platform for 10mm, but it would be delusional to think it will hold up as well as a 1911 in its proper chambering.
 
Like what?

glock with an afertmarket barrel is about the only other option. one of those will far outlast a 1911 10mm.


Utter nonsense.

If there were any inherit problem with the 1911 handling the 10mm cartridge, why would at least three reputable companies offer them?

orly?

what three companies would that be? colt is the only one i'm still aware that currently produces one.

even if there were three companies--that's out of how many 1911 makers?....

also, send a couple thousand rounds of FULL POWER 10mm through your 1911, and let us know what kind of shape your gun is in. ;)
 
Colt, Kimber, Dan Wesson, Wilson Combat, and Nighthawk all offer them or have offered them within the past year or so. They seem to do them in runs.
 
Keep a good recoil spring installed. As soon as it starts to weaken replace it. I have personally seen Deltas that the owners kept shooting with old springs and full power loads and it will beat up the frame.
 
Apocalypse: I had a feeling we were about to go Glock vs 1911. I'll bite since I've owned both in 10mm. My Glock 20 had an aftermarket barrel to account for the rifling issue with cast bullets and the often talked about chamber issues which can result in KB's - let it be known I'm about as worried about those with my Glocks as I am my DE falling apart, my AR jamming, my Mini shooting 12" groups at 100 yards, an 80 series FPS resulting in my death,....

I found that with the aftermarket barrel the G20 would occasionally jam after it got dirty, maybe 300 rounds in or so. Could be the barrel could be bad luck but I attributed it to tighter chambers with the aftermarket barrel. Never got the G20 to jam with the stock barrel and it also never worried me much. The only reason I bought the G20 (my first 10mm) was because like you I also read a bunch of mickey mouse bullsquash on the web about DE's falling apart and such. This pushed me to the Glock. But unlike you I decided to later shun the advice I received on the web and bought 2 1911's in 10mm, both of which have received thousands of rounds and both have earned a permanent spot in my collection. The Glock has since been sold but that was more a function of me preferring the 1911 platform to the Glock (accuracy, handling and safer imo). A G20SF might tempt me later on down the road.

Not sure if you have ever fired or owned a 10mm but these are my experiences. Could a G20 outlast a 1911 in 10mm? Who the heck knows but I see no real reason why it should. I haven't been able to shoot either of mine to pieces and if I do I will proudly hang my battered pistol on the wall as a memento. Parts on any gun can break but I do NOT believe the DE's break any more often. For me it boiled down to me being able to carry and shoot the 1911 much better than the Glock. I think both are plenty reliable and durable, just don't drop the Glock on its plastic sights :)

I only took the time to write this because I hate these false rumors but more than anything it chaps my ass when someone posts about a gun they just bought and they receive critical responses. This isn't a "what should I buy" or "x vs y" thread. OP bought a gun, you tell him you would have bought something else. Bad form man. Say congrats or keep quiet.

Oh yeah, Kimber and DW still make small runs of 10mm's from time to time along with Colt, STI, Fusion and I think Wilson Combat off the top of my head. Not too bad of company right there, in fact there are only a few other 1911 manufactures not on that list that I'd even bother with.

So back to Ohio58: Awesome gun and a great find, enjoy it like I do mine!
 
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