Democrats Eye November Landslide

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What do you think about their optmisim? Well founded or wishful thinking?


Democrats Eye November Landslide
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/29/D8HTJP780.html

By RON FOURNIER
AP Political Writer


Republicans are three steps from a November shellacking _ each a grim possibility if habitually divided Democrats get their acts together.

First step: Voters must focus on the national landscape on Nov. 7 rather than local issues and personalities that usually dominate midterm elections.

That would sting Republicans, who trail badly in national polls.

Second step: Voters must be so angry at Washington and politics in general that an anti-incumbent, throw-the-bums-out mentality sweeps the nation.

That would wound Republicans, the majority party.

Third step: Americans must view the elections as a referendum on President Bush and the GOP-led Congress, siding with Democrats in a symbolic vote against the Iraq war, rising gas prices, economic insecurity and the nagging sense that the nation is on the wrong track.

That would destroy Republicans, sweeping them from power in one or both chambers and making Bush a lame duck.

Less than six months out, most Democratic and Republican strategists say the first two elements are in place for now _ a national, anti- incumbent mind-set _ and all signs point to the third.

Still, many Democrats worry that their party has not closed the deal.

"The fear I have as a Democrat is that if we are making this solely a referendum on the Republicans, we are not giving people a reason to turn out," said Democratic strategist Chris Lehane of California.

"Having said that, I think all these other elements are so bad for the Republicans that 'Had enough?' should be enough."

Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean and the party's congressional leaders have clashed over money and the DNC's push for a unified message that draws a stark contrast with the GOP.

Inside the DNC, some officials point to internal polls that show voters holding both the Democratic and Republican parties in equally low esteem.

The fact that most voters, when forced to choose, tell pollsters they want Democrats rather than Republicans to control Congress is not a sign of strength, these officials say. Rather, it's evidence that voters are simply giving Democrats a chance to win them over _ a chance that can be blown unless Democrats stand for something other than attacking Bush, these officials said.

Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York, the head of the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee, agreed that Democrats have not sealed the deal.

"I think if the election were held today, there is a 50-50 chance of taking the House and the Senate and a very high percentage of gaining a significant number of seats," Schumer said.

"But things change."

Democrats outside Congress will be disappointed with anything less than major triumphs.

"Shame on us if we don't have a good election cycle," said Jill Alper, a Democratic strategist from Michigan.

Back to those three steps.

NATIONAL ELECTION: Among the two dozen Republican and Democratic strategists interviewed in the last two weeks, there was unanimity that the fall campaigns will be national in scope. Voters will give local issues less attention than normal, a bad sign for the GOP.

"If we keep it local we win; if they nationalize issues, they win," said Michigan Republican Party Chairman Saul Anuzis.

Sen. Elizabeth Dole of North Carolina, head of the GOP Senate committee, seemed resigned to a national campaign. "Obviously, we're going to do everything we can here at the Senate committee to minimize any aspect of that," she said.

THROW THE BUMS OUT: More than 70 percent of Americans tell pollsters that the nation is on the wrong track. Larger percentages think corruption is a major problem in Washington. Incumbents have been roughed up already this year in Pennsylvania and Indiana, and in both cases Republicans suffered the worst.

If this shapes up to be an anti-incumbent midterm, "we'll lose some members" in Congress, said Democratic strategist Steve Elmendorf, "but they have more incumbents."

ANTI-REPUBLICAN TIDE: Whether 2006 turns out to be an anti-incumbent or anti-GOP election "is the 15-seat question," said Democratic strategist Dane Strother, referring to the number of seats the Democrats need to win to seize control of the House.

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., says GOP majorities are "clearly in jeopardy" because the political landscape is both anti-incumbent and anti-Republican.

"They know that Republicans are in charge," the grim-faced presidential hopeful said of voters. "But I just want to emphasize that we have six months, and we can turn this around."

And Democrats could fumble the opportunity.

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EDITOR'S NOTE _ Ron Fournier has covered politics for The Associated Press since 1992.

Associated Press writer Jon Sarche in Colorado Springs, Colo., contributed to this report.
 
While I do think they will do well I think they are a little too optomistic.

Just because I don't like what is going on with the republicans doesn't mean I will vote for a Democrat.

Somehow they read disapproval of the GOP as approval of the DEMS. 70/30 against Bush doesn't mean 70/30 infavor of DEM candidates. they still have no plan, all they do is criticize and offer no solutions. Just obstruction and criticism.

I'd rather go with a bad plan than no plan. At least you know what you are going to get.
 
I am having trouble making sense of the notion of a Democrat landslide. That would need to ignore many real issues between the parties, but I do believe many vote for the wrong reasons. Going with Democrats in great numbers would have to ignore the abortion question and concern about replacement of aged Supreme Court Justices, and it would ignore that a controversial immigration reform bill in the Senate was heavily endorsed by Democrats.

What does make sense is a selective assault on incumbent Republicans who are not conservative by any traditional measure. The anger should come from a Republican failure to stay together and to exploit a majority position, favoring conservative ideals.

We have that issue in SC, because our two Republican Senators, Graham and DeMint, were split on how they voted on the immigration reform bill. DeMint voted against it and is then allied with the majority of Republicans. Neither is up for reelection in 2006, but I would guess that Graham's seat is open (in 2008) for a serious Democrat challenge or even a different Republican. His race will be directly affected by the presidential election.
 
IIRC, the exit polls for the 2004 Presidential Election had JFK mopping the floor with GWB.... :evil:
 
Wishful thinking

You will hear this more and more coming up to the election. The stupid MSM will keep saying "landslide, landslide" as they publish polls which are skewed.

Then two things will happen.

One, the Republicans will come out in droves to vote.

Two, the lazy arm of the Democratic Party won't bother to vote, since they think they have a lock on victory.

Seen it before and we'll see it again.
 
I don't know if the Republicans will come out to vote this round. I have relatives who have voted GOP since Goldwater but they are so put out with those socialist in the senate they really considering sitting 06 out and if McCain is the nominee in 08 they will sit that round out as well.
 
the lazy arm of the Democratic Party won't bother to vote,

Democrat is a proper noun. The party name is Democrat Party. You will see and hear "Democratic" (an adjective) a lot, but it is not correct.
 
I've been a Republican since I cast my first vote for Reagan in 1980.

I have been so thoroughly disappointed by Bush and the Republican majority in Congress that I will be sitting out the November election. I feel like I have been abandoned by the Party.
 
I've been a Republican since I cast my first vote for Reagan in 1980.

I have been so thoroughly disappointed by Bush and the Republican majority in Congress that I will be sitting out the November election. I feel like I have been abandoned by the Party.

That could be me speaking.

My take is that millions of pubbies are sitting '06 out. Then, when the Democrats sweep, if the RNC doesn't start listening to their freaking constituents we're going to sit '08 out, as well.
 
Yes, can't fight it. I note that the language was distorted by shortening the name, clipping off a noun and leaving an adjective form, which is okay but inconsistent with other party naming conventions, i.e. "a party composed of [insert plural noun of choice]"

"In 1798, the "party of the common man" was officially named the Democratic-Republican Party"

"In 1844, the National Convention simplified the Party's name to the Democratic Party."
 
We have no bloody choice in the elections. 40% of the republicans sided with 90% of the Democrats to shove their 'mexican get out of jail free card' down our throats.

Who the hell is there to vote for? Vote for the spineless republicans and rinos and you send the message that invader amnesty is what you want. Vote for the democrites and you send the SAME message except louder, because 90% of them were behind it.

The American public is faced with a Lose-LoseMore situation come November.

Although there is a certain appeal about watching Bush fend off impeachment for the last 2 years of his term... He'll be too busy protecting himself to screw up anything else. But no way in hell will I vote for a democrite.
 
I think the GOP is going to get smacked - as well they should! - not by people voting for unpalatable Democrats, but by many in the traditional GOP base simply staying home and not casting ballots, or voting for some third party.

If the Libertarians get 5% of the GOP vote, and another 5% of GOP voters stay home, how does that change the election dynamic?

The main difference between Democrats and Republicans lately is that while a Democrat will stab you in the front (you KNOW he's the enemy, and you'll see it coming) far too many Republicans are willing to stab us in the back. And a declared enemy is preferred to a backstabbing "friend."

(Anyone else notice the original article dodged the hot-button issues of border security and amnesty for illegals?)

Edited to add: To repeat a prediction I made earlier about the upcoming elections . . . nothing good will come of them.
 
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If Bush keeps pushing his amnesty program.....

yes, the dimocrats will come out ahead in November. If the senate and house cannot agree to drop the amnesty program out of the senate bill, and reach an agreement and vote on it, the dimocrats will come out ahead in November. And, on top of it all, the Republicans are going to run McSlime as their candidate, then all WILL be lost......chris3
 
I feel like I have been abandoned by the Party.
I do too. The problem isn't that we feel/have been abandoned, it is we have not been throwing our power around and runnning our our own candidates in the primaries.

There are several ways to get an incumbent out of office. 1) Find a good candidate and run against them. 2) They retire. 3)They die.

So let's start looking for good candidates to run in the major party closest to our beliefs.

If we can get some good Constitutional Party, Libertarian Party, Republican Party or Democrat Party to run in the two major parties we can win, in the long run.

Yes, there still are good Democrats around but most of the are now Republicans.

I would have been happy to vote for Zell Miller.
 
While listening to "Morning Edition" on NPR (National People's Republic radio) this morning, I heard the first shots being fired by the anti-gun wing of the democratic (notice the lower-case, RealGun) party. They must be confident to start that crap this early, but it's just a taste of what's to come, I'm afraid.

I have never despised a group of U.S. politicians as much as I do the current administration. I consider them a criminally incompetent idiot manchild surrounded by a bunch of neo-National Socialists. I liken Rove to Goebbels and Gonzales to Himmler.

But be that as it may, I do not want to see the Democrats take control of congress this fall. I'm not particularly fond of the Republicans in congress. They have plenty of flaws, but I don't hold them (directly) repsonsible for the executive branch's trampling of the Constitution, and I do believe that as a group the Democrats are worse.
 
Libertarian, perhaps. The Constitution party has gone scary theocrat, and the other two are a lost cause.

But...as to the inane namecalling:
the dimocrats

Democrats

Is that really "high road"? Do you appreciate it when people use "Repugnican" and "ReTHUG" to refer to the other side?
 
The problem with Democrats winning seats over Republicans is that Democrats lack strategic plans of differing implementation. Indeed, some Dems lack any plans whatsoever. While they complain about the Republican way of doing business, they lack a varying alternate. For most issues today, both domestic and international, a clear Democrat alternative is hard to decipher. In order for Democrats to appeal to voters unhappy with Republicans, a viable plan is necessary. Unfortunately Dems don't place a high priority in getting their plan - if they have one - across to voters!

The Social Security issue highlights this problem well! Dems took great exception to Bush's plan for revamping the Social Security program, they objected to privatization efforts, and they took issue with claims that program will fail in short order. Yet they surfaced no plan of their own.

Dems talk a good game but they fail in planning...
 
and the other two are a lost cause.
Perhap, but my idea is to make them find the right way to govern, ie: for the good of America and not just to be re-elected, by replacing them with real Pro-American candidates.
 
In order for Democrats to appeal to voters unhappy with Republicans, a viable plan is necessary. Unfortunately Dems don't place a high priority in getting their plan - if they have one - across to voters!

That assumes the swing voters are both rational and informed.
 
Sometimes leftist reporters get confused, and wind up writing out their fantasies of what they would like to happen instead of writing what actually is happening.
 
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