designing reloading room would like advice

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i been loading 20 + years, fianlly have got a chance to build a reloading room.
i am making it 10 ft wd and 20 ft long. i have 4 rifle/pistol presses and 2 shot gun presses. . i want benches around most of the room with storage above and below...
i am wondering if 10 ft is too wide, i can make it smaller. i want it to reduce as much unneeded walking. all ideas will be appreciated..
the room hasn't been built yet, so i can change anything

thanks brassbullets12
 
10 foot will probaly be to wide. mine is about 3 foot wide and this gives me plenty of storige behind my press's. There are some nifty ideals on the sticky at the top. A couple I, have incoperated into mine.
 
I did probably what you're doing, took a full garage section 10 x 20 and walled it off, dropped central AC and heat in the ceiling, and I'm off and running.

I built a sturdy bench by attaching it directly to the wall studs. My bench is 14 feet long and I have mounted 4 Dillons, a Rockchucker, RCBS Autoprime, Dillon Super Swager, and a Lyman single stage press with the Dillon powered trimmer all on the single bench. At the end of the room I installed a large tumbler and Dillon case separator. On the back wall I have shelving with working stock of powder, primers, and bullets. I built a large wooden magazine against the outside wall to store powder not being used in accordance with fire regs.

All in all it works well for me. My best advice would to calculate everything you think you might want to install and add 30% more square footage.
 
thanks, thats what i am doing, walling off a section, of a gararge, i want to have it all planed out, so i don't what to have to make changes later\\
thanks for info
 
I agree, I think 10' wide is pretty wide.
If you utilize your over-counter and under-counter space as you mentioned, there is no reason it needs to be 10' wide - especially if the bench is only along one of the long walls, as opposed to being along both walls.

I use the end of a very long workbench in my basement and I probably take up about five to six feet, at most, of the workbench. The workbench is framed on 2' centers and is anchored directly into the basement concrete wall with 1/2" bolts and concrete anchors to the wall, along with adhesive between everything. My workbench would support the weight of a car, it is so strong. :uhoh:

When I use the press, NOTHING moves, at all, no matter how hard I am using the press!
 
i am making it 10 ft wd and 20 ft long. i have 4 rifle/pistol presses and 2 shot gun presses. . i want benches around most of the room with storage above and below...

10' will not be too wide, If you put 24" benches down both sides and at one end, you will be down to a 6' x 18' or 16' x 8' . Plus you have to have a 36" door in there somewhere, so that is lost space. I don't know your lay out but there is never such a thing as too much room or too much storage.

Jimmy K
 
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10' will not be too wide, If you put 24" benches down both sides and at one end, you will be down to a 6' x 18" or 16' x 8' . Plus you have to have a 36" door in there somewhere, so that is lost space. I don't know your lay out but there is never such a thing as too much room or too much storage.

Jimmy K
I agree.
I suppose you cannot have TOO MUCH ROOM. I know, in my own house that rooms and areas sure do fill up over the years! Now that you are building the room, better a bit large than a bit too small!
 
One thing you might want to do is analyze the moves you will be making for your various kinds of reloading, and considering the location of various hardware based on that analysis. As we all know, the workflow of rifle (bottleneck) cartridges is different from handgun (straightwall) cartridges, and that is different from the workflow of shotgun reloading.

Next, locate some information on "workshop" layouts--see the AIA graphics standards. For all I know, 'Graphics Standards' may even have basic templates for reloading workshop layouts now. They are the exhaustive reference for ergonomics, at least accessible to laymen.

Or, as an alternative, consider kitchen layouts. What's the work triangle? Some creative time spent here will yield real results, I am sure. My own personal tip would be to be sure to include desk / computer space, and to integrate it appropriately with the rest of the hobby.

Jim H.
 
Just have to throw my two cents in...My reloading room has about 10 linear feet of table space and I have 2 Dillon 550B's, A Dillon SL900, and a Redding Big Boss mounted on my worktop. I need another 3 or 4 LF of work surface to be really happy and comfortable.
 
I have gravitated over the years to two reloading areas in the basement.

One is used strictly for powder handling equipment, scales, measures, loading blocks, powder cabinet, etc. All powder charging is done there, and bullets set on the cases before moving to the press area.

The other bench holds the reloading press, a lubrisizer, and two shotgun presses.

Couple of advantages for me.
It cuts way down on the clutter on both operations.
And it makes cleaning up spilled powder much easier then sorting it out of all the dies trimmers, and other junk on the press bench.

rc
 
make it as big as you can i thought my bench was too big when i built it i have added on 2 times as i got more stuff i need to do it again
 
My advice would be stay with the 10 ft room and put in a cleaning area right in the middle of the room. This way you have a good area to work on for cleaning.

Now on the benches, make them super solid. There is no such thing as too strong of a bench for reloading. I would also keep my benches about 30" deep and put in a lot of lights. I would run a continuous double bulb fluorescent lights around the perimeter of the bench about 24" off the bench surface so you have decent lights. I would then put in 8' fluorescent fixtures on 36" spacing perpendicular to the long axis of the room. I believe there is no such thing as too much lighting when reloading.

Beyond that walk it out a few times and really think it out.
 
Give yourself all the storage that you can. You never have enough of that in any shop. Also have enough space for a bench that can accomodate a vice and some tools so you don't have go somewhere else for small repairs. And last but not necessarily least, make that door wide enough for a wheel chair to get thru. It may be handy one day.
 
thanks very much for all the info. i am going to have i know work benches down both walls, one area will be for cleaning and repairs, on firearms, the rest will be for reloading .
i actually have room to make it 10 x 30. just trying to do some ground work before i start

thanks you all very much
 
I would avoid the 8 foot bulbs for your lights because they are a pain to transport and store or change, find the 4 foot bulbs.

I would also make one entire wall nothing but floor to ceiling cabinets for storage with a 48 to 60 inch wide bench down the middle and a 24inch on the other wall. The middle bench would allow easy access from either side with storage below it. If the free standing bench was anchored well it could be used for your reloading.

We want pictures as this room progresses.
 
My bench is 12-feet long and about 39" deep. I have six presses and two powder measures mounted, and wish I had another couple feet of length. Twenty feet long sounds just right.

Three and a half foot deep benches (I wouldn't go shallower than that as you will want to put shelves on them) along both walls will give you three feet of elbow room Sounds a bit tight. Can you make the room 12-feet wide?
 
And speaking of flourescent lighting, do you guys recommend the yellowish kind, or the cool white? I have both right now. The cool white is brighter but the yellowish kind seems to be easier on the eyes.
 
My reloading bench at 8' long is crowded with 3 MECs and a RCBS metallic set up. It also doubles as the gun cleaning area. If anything, make one side for cleaning/working on your guns and the other side for reloading. I like to have at least 2' on either side for ease of reloading whether shotgun or metallic.

I used "Gorilla" brand racks - 4' long attached end to end. (In my other house I had room for three sections - even better). The top was stock kitchen counter from the big box sore with 3/4" plywood glued and screwed under neath - that was bolted to the racks AND the wall studs - the overhang allowed me to use a bar stool to sit on and have room for my legs.

Once you get your benches built, take everything and place it on the bench to figure what will be the best layout for your operations - that will avoid a lot of unnecessary holes being drilled in the top (ask me how I know :D)
 
My advice would be stay with the 10 ft room and put in a cleaning area right in the middle of the room. This way you have a good area to work on for cleaning.

Now on the benches, make them super solid. There is no such thing as too strong of a bench for reloading. I would also keep my benches about 30" deep and put in a lot of lights. I would run a continuous double bulb fluorescent lights around the perimeter of the bench about 24" off the bench surface so you have decent lights. I would then put in 8' fluorescent fixtures on 36" spacing perpendicular to the long axis of the room. I believe there is no such thing as too much lighting when reloading.

Beyond that walk it out a few times and really think it out.
I agree with Jim Kirk! And with Peter Eick on all points except the 30" depth! Two reasons: I'm short and 30" puts me too far from all my upper shelves, especially the higher ones. Second, I prefer all my stuff above me, visible, yet out of the way. With a 24" bench you are not as tempted to clutter it all up. ( Of course Peter's published pictures of his bench shows NO clutter...that's either amazing or staged...Peter?:)

Below is my anti-torsion beam bench design that I use, which provides a super solid, immovable beam to mount your presses (using 6 inch carriage bolts to anchor them through the solid beam.) The advantages to this design is the ease and speed of building, minimum lumber cuts, and need for only 3/4" plywood top. The top doesn't need to provide any stiffness to resist torsion from the press strokes, because the beam does that. Don't bother cutting cross supports except at the ends. Totally not necessary with a 24"-6" or 18" span and the torsion beam and way less work!!

Provide plug-ins below your bench and cut "computer desk style" holes to access them...that keeps the cords mostly off your bench. When you mount your presses, use a fender washer (big washer, little hole) under the beam that will span between screwed and glued members of the beam. Even Peter would be impressed with the stout immovable bench this makes. BTW, the back 2x4 is screwed to the wall with 3" cabinet/deck screws, and legs can be spaced 8' apart.

Notice that you really only need a braced 2X4 leg (the tall 2X4) braced with the outside 2x4 screwed 90 degrees from it. (the other members in the front of the leg detail are only window dressing I added later to make them look massive and impressive. The quarter round hides the joints and makes it look like one big carved leg...you actually need none of that unless you wish to impress your friends.:rolleyes: I'm a building contractor...for me it is advertising.:)
MyBench3.jpg

On the subject of fluorescent bulb color...
Quoting from Wikipediea: "High CCT lighting generally requires higher light levels. At dimmer illumination levels, the human eye perceives lower color temperatures as more natural, as related through the Kruithof curve. So, a dim 2700 K incandescent lamp appears natural and a bright 5000 K lamp also appears natural, but a dim 5000 K fluorescent lamp appears too pale. Daylight-type fluorescents look natural only if they are very bright.

I experienced both in my reloading room. High CCT light is way superior IF you have enough of it. It reminds me of being in a depressive Sci-Fi movie if there isn't enough. I have tried mixing them in my 8' strips, and that works better. Or double them and use 5000 region "natural daylight" lights.
 
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A few suggestions:

Use the full 10' x30'. Put a bench unit along the full length of one long wall and around one short wall. Set up for gun/reloading work on the long wall, you shouldn't need any more. Don't make the bench top any wider than 18 to 20 inches for the reasons you stated, any wider simply invites bench top "storage" and results in more clutter, not more working room! Let the bench top extend maybe 3-4 inches forward of the front bench edge for comfortable knee & foot room. Build some sets of drawers underneath the top if you have the tools/skills but include lots of simple open shelves (with doors) for most things. And have lots of electrical outlets spaced along the bench for the various things you WILL want to do, a duplex outlet every 4 ft or so should be good.

Make the short wall bench a little wider, maybe 22"- 24". Put a small kitchen sink, microwave, apartment referigerator, telephone, radio, TV (?), coffee maker and maybe a computer in that area. Have some kind of mouse/bug proof cabinets for storage of snak foods, cups, paper towels. Include storage room for kitchen/shop cleaning stuff; broom/mop, vacuum, trash can, etc

Build a lot of (narrow) shelving above the work bench and more on the remaining short end. About 7 1/2" wide, or less, shelving seems ideal, go wider and you'll lose small items on the back side! I'd strive to have the shelving start about 20 inches above the bench top and go the ceiling in 6" - 8" - 10" steps, and full length of the bench. That would give you lots open, easily seen storage for loading books, components, loaded ammo, cleaning kits/solvents/oils, gun tools and parts, etc.

On the other long wall I'd make a series of seperate, full height "closets" with doors, some with wide shelves, for neat bulk storage of 'stuff'. If you are a hunter/fisherman you could store your special clothing/boots, gadgets, rods, tackle, decoys, tent, back pack, climbing stand as well as your range box, cleaning rods, targets, spotting scope, chronograph/tripod, etc., in them.

I'd strongly suggest you paint everything a soft white, closets and shelving too, before putting any kind of stuff in the room. That will make it MUCH easier to do and then to see things in closets and on shelves.

Make the flooring something inexpensive but easy to clean. A cheap grade vinyl is good and won't be too costly to replace from time to time. Use "throw" rugs in front of the bench to pad the things you'll drop but will be easy to pick up and shake clean outside.

As others have suggested, lots of soft lighting can hardly be over done.

Not all my ideas, had a friend who had basically this setup once. I've lived in envy ever since!

Enjoy your new man cave!
 
Have to agree with GW about us "short people" ... I'll add "round" to the mix also, 24" counter tops work better for us!

Fluorescent lights are really green in color, the human eye sees it as remotely white. Take a photo in strong FL and see if it is not green in color.

Jimmy K
 
to expand on jfh's comment - try this:

Go to the IKEA website, and download their kitchen planning tool - not because you need to plan a kitchen, or even buy anything from them, but because it will let you lay out your room in 3D, and view it while you're adding things - like benches or shelves. It will give you a clear picture of what it looks like before you ever set foot in it, and best of all, it's FREE (and they don't spam you for info just to download their tool).

The only downside is that it requires a Windows operating system to run it.

I also second the lighting motion - it just seems like there's never enough of it. I'm a huge fan of surface lighting - lights mounted to the underside of the shelving. It doesn't catch my shadow like the overhead lighting does, and I can always put whatever 'm looking at directly underneath the light for a better look.

Are you doing any electrical work? Maybe adding a few more outlets was high on my list, but then again, I was building in the basement, so I needed more lights, a dehumidifier, and a spot for the tumbler.

Good luck! Can't wait to see your pics...

-tc
 
No matter how much space you start with, it will almost never be enough in the end. Trust me, I built a 16x24 wood shop when I thought I only needed 12x12 and within 2 years ran out of space and need to expand. :( I would go with benches on the walls for sure and probably an island in the middle. The island would be nice to stand at to load or use bar stools.

Search out the pics of your bench thread and find the bench top made in layers with the cutout for a plate. You make a few plates and bolt different presses to them and swap them out as needed. If I ever make another bench that is how I will do my tops for sure. Frame in a section for the safe and make it part of the decor. :) Get an old fridge and use it for a powder magazine.
 
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