Details of double tapping?
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Alphazulu6
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Double Tap is no longer a real practice in any modern day military (or really ever was... officially). The Army today trains on controlled pairs. This is where you practice reflexive firing (point shoot method) also known as CQM/CQB by military/operators.
The actual firing method of control pairs has to do with close quarters marksmanship (CQM) training. The shooter acquires the target by their eyes only and with the reflexive training brings the firearm muzzle up to target while still keeping eyes on the target. The weapon is always shouldered throughout the entire process as this is called the "low ready" and the only accepted position for urban/confined combat rifle techniques. Pistols use the same principle but with elbows slightly cocked/bent, close into the body, and the combat pistol technique implemented (push pull method of firing acquisition). This can be done by shoot, turn and shoot, side step shoot, shoot walk, etc.
Your sight picture will determine the speed and acceleration of the controlled pairs. They are not just "bang bang" but precise and deliberate. When the sight post is on target the shooter will instinctively and quickly squeeze off the first shot, watching the target until the front sight post comes back on target where the next round is quickly and deliberately squeezed off. It will resemble a circular motion when done correctly with very little disruption or pause as the recoil is seen through the front sight.
The weapon muzzle is then dropped slightly into the "Low Ready" while the target is quickly determined and/or a new target is acquired by the shooter. If the target did not change shape that you just engaged the CQM technique is to continue until it does or it is determined to be a non-threat or a greater-threat is identified.
Yes it is a somewhat long and lengthy process as far as training is concerned BUT once learned it is very valuable to the aggressor. Note I said AGRESSOR because CQM/CQB is to be used in an offensive/movement type manor as defensive strategies are ambush and that is not what the controlled pair is designed for (or what people call double tap).
And on a completely separate note: if you want any credibility with the Para-military/operator/military/other-than-recognized US hired forces, refrain from calling or even using the term "double tap". Use the term CQM for the shooting style, and controlled pair when describing your shooting technique (though everyone uses it anyway during CQM so it goes without saying).
Hope this helps.
Good Luck and be safe!
mpmarty
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a double tap is just two very close together shots at the same target. The first shot is aimed and the second shot is reflexive. At fifteen yards my AK74 will place two rounds within an inch of each other in less than .2 (two tenths) of a second between the shots. First one aimed second fired "reflexively" as a conditioned muscle memory takes over and does it for you. Just takes practice. Similarly, with a pistol the double tap is first shot aimed second shot reflexive but you don't get one inch separation at fifteen yards unless your name is Brian Enos.
Clipper
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After enough practice, you'll get to the point where inside 10 yards or so, you can put 2 through the BGs 10-ring without using sights at all...
Usually its the 'Paramilitary/operator/military' and their wannabes that use the fancy acronyms. as normal humans don't tend to spit when they hear the phrase 'double-tap'...
Usually its the 'Paramilitary/operator/military' and their wannabes that use the fancy acronyms. as normal humans don't tend to spit when they hear the phrase 'double-tap'...
eric.cartman
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Keep dreaming
Then again, Mozambique involves 3... well, good luck with the bar thing...
Alphazulu6
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Haha ouch Clipper. Double tap is actually on the ban list for anyone in the military to use as a technical term.
And some of us are military and unfortunately not quite "normal humans" such as yourself. Sorry if the time I took to explain the most current techniques taught today in the "kill or be killed" culture manerisms and vocabulary bother you.
Dave Dembinski
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Alphazulu6 said:
Didn't bother me any, at least. Thanks for explaining that, although I hope you'll forgive me for still saying double-tap. Rolls off the tongue better than "controlled pair".
Black Adder LXX
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I'll stick woth Double Tap, too. Controlled pair sounds like a guy that keeps his libido in check or somethin...
Alphazulu6
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HAHA ok Im going to let the term go. I hate it. I think "double tap" is a terrible technique.. but so is controlled pair if not used properly. It is a peeve of mine so I guess it doesnt really matter. If your training and you really use/practice a self defense controlled pair "double tap" correctly it doesnt matter what you call it.
I've got an Jenning's .22 pistol that does a really uncontrolled pair with a single pull of the trigger... in fact sometimes it does an uncontrolled sectet (that's 6 I think...the full magazine).
I'm waiting for a gun buyback program so I can give them that thing in exchange for some football tickets.
I'm waiting for a gun buyback program so I can give them that thing in exchange for some football tickets.
Clipper
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Alpha, I guess I can cut you a little slack, since I was in the military myself, and am familiar with the crap that gets tossed for stupid reasons, but understand that having been there, I'm unimpressed with the military technobabble they engage in in their efforts to impress the civilians, and find the wannabees who parrot the language rather pathetic...
1911 guy
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Whatever you call it,
The best technique I've found is to make your second shot as accurate as it needs to be. If you're out a bit, the quarter seconf to align the sights doesn't cost you and gets a hit at the slightly longer range. At bad breath range, accurate enough is usually defined as an immediate shot that connects with some portion of the BGs annatomy.
The best technique I've found is to make your second shot as accurate as it needs to be. If you're out a bit, the quarter seconf to align the sights doesn't cost you and gets a hit at the slightly longer range. At bad breath range, accurate enough is usually defined as an immediate shot that connects with some portion of the BGs annatomy.
Scorpiusdeus
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DT, Double tap, CQM or whatever the heck ya'll call it, how many of us practice it?
During every range session I practice 2 to the Torso, one to the head. Strong side, offhand, low light ect.
I play gun games as well. Not the best training, but better than a stick in the eye.
During every range session I practice 2 to the Torso, one to the head. Strong side, offhand, low light ect.
I play gun games as well. Not the best training, but better than a stick in the eye.
Vern Humphrey
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I do it a little differently -- I focus on the front sight and follow it in recoil. My eyes never leave the sight, and as the gun comes down, it goes off when the front sight obscures the lower part of the target.
El Tejon
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Grumble, grumble, grumble, it's still controlled pair or hammer. This "double tap" nonsense just confuses things.
El Tejon, wearing two Old School ties.
El Tejon, wearing two Old School ties.
SIRVEYR666
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Wow. Everything turns into a debate around here.
I'll just stick with the simple: Two Shots, Three Shots, Etc. I don't think that will ruffle too many feathers...but I could be wrong.
I'll just stick with the simple: Two Shots, Three Shots, Etc. I don't think that will ruffle too many feathers...but I could be wrong.
Geronimo45
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I find it impossible to perform, so I just septuple-tap with my 1911.
It's also more tacticool to do say that you did a ST with a SASA (Single action Springfield Armory) 1911A1.
It's also more tacticool to do say that you did a ST with a SASA (Single action Springfield Armory) 1911A1.
The Lone Haranguer
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As I understand and employ the term, both shots are aimed with the sights, "taking your time quick," as it were. It is entirely possible, with practice, to fire both shots so aimed in roughly half to three quarters of a second. However, the second technique has utility at very close ranges (say three yards or less).
I was taught the term double tap. I was taught that by a former FBI firearms instructor. It was eye on threat, gun is raised, front sight is focused when it enters your line of vision, squeeze, keep eye on threat, as front sight returns to line of sight, squeeze again. Done right, and with practice, you should be having both shots hitting a inch or so apart, and it should be darn near automatic. We practice with six spot targets and hit each as they are called by the training partner. After a while, double taps become second nature, and when we are on our game, you hear, babam, babam, babam, Two rounds a couple of tenths or so apart, and again and again.
It may not be the Coolest term in highspeedlowdrag world, but it works, and it works well in real life.
It may not be the Coolest term in highspeedlowdrag world, but it works, and it works well in real life.
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