Difference between the ruger mark 4s?

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Looking at all the mark 4s and I know that they each have there specialtis about them, but is any one more accurate than the others? Is any one shoot better than the others?

What is the difference really between the mark iv 22/45 and the other mark ivs, is it the handle the only main difference as its supposed to be like a 1911 handle?

I would like to get one for small game hunting, but don't know if I really need to spend that much for the hunter series vs any other series ruger mark iv?

What you all think
 
The Ruger Mark Series pistols have always had a broad spectrum of features within the line up, so it would really be exhaustive to go through all of them, but there are some general differences, and a few truths to be realized.

Truth: Throw a red dot or scope on top and a bench underneath, and you'll struggle to find any difference in raw accuracy potential for ANY of them. However, the contributions of sight radius, sight type, and balance to off hand precision are all real. The longer, heavier barrel models with the patridge sights will generally outshoot the shorter, lighter barrels with dovetail sights.

Truth: All of them have the same internals, so they all have the same trigger quality out of the box. There's nothing really WRONG with their trigger, but they could be "more right." The Volquartsen sear & disconnector and a Clark or Tandemkross hammer bushing will bring you up to a VERY happy place with a Ruger Mark IV trigger, without spending an arm and a leg. They're serviceable without upgrade, but you'll drop less points by adding these parts.

Truth: The aesthetic options for the 22/45, 22/45 Lite, Standard, Hunter, Competition, & Tactical are all very different, and aesthetic preferences are always subjective. I love the Competition & Standard (tapered) models, my wife loves the Hunters and the 22/45 Lites.

Truth: There are 3 sight options for the Mark Series pistols, currently, some lending themselves better to precision shooting than others.

Truth: There's a pretty surprising spectrum in how the different models will balance in hand. The Lite and Standard/Taper models, especially the shorter 4 3/4" models, will obviously handle more lightly up front than the heavy barrel models. The Aluminum framed blued models" will be a bit lighter in the tail than the stainless models.

Differences: The Standards use a windage driftable rear sight, but are otherwise relatively poor sights. The Hunters use a fiber optic front sight, with a V-notch rear sight, offering a fast and highly visible, yet relatively imprecise sight picture. The Competition, 22/45, both Tacticals, and Target model all use a square notch blade in a fully adjustable rear sight and a patridge front blade, offering the greatest degree of precision in the fleet, although lacking the visibility and speed of the Hunter's "lollipop" sight picture.

Differences: The 22/45's claim to fame was the similarity to the 1911 frame, and even the opportunity to utilize 1911 grip panels (however modified now with the Mark IV evolution). It has a very different grip in hand than the Mark IV, and a different balance, especially in the Lite version. Ruger HAS, however, rectified the differences in the controls present for the Mark III versions, so now the bolt stop lever is the same for both models. I'm hard pressed to say they "handle like a 1911," since the safety is different, the balance very different, the bolt stop lever is different, bolt instead of slide, fixed instead of reciprocating sights, etc etc... But the grip shape is familiar to the 1911.

Differences: The Hunter is available with a semi-wrap around grip, and the Competition comes with a right handed thumbrest shingle (although it's still not as comfortable as the Mark II version). The rest of the Mark IV's are really the same profile shingles, and the 22/45's are all the same 1911 style. I shoot predominantly left handed, so I have to face buying new grips with every iteration of the Competition I buy. Some folks find the wrap around grip to be overly large (as the Mark series grips are already large).

Personally, I grew up on a Standard/Tapered for my field work, and slab sided Competitions for my precision work. I have Mark II, III, and now IV's in both of these versions. My wife has the Hunter in III and IV, a Lite in III, and has her eye on a new Lite IV. I have a Government/Target II and another in IV. All of them have their own little nuances.
 
The Ruger Mark Series pistols have always had a broad spectrum of features within the line up, so it would really be exhaustive to go through all of them, but there are some general differences, and a few truths to be realized.

Truth: Throw a red dot or scope on top and a bench underneath, and you'll struggle to find any difference in raw accuracy potential for ANY of them. However, the contributions of sight radius, sight type, and balance to off hand precision are all real. The longer, heavier barrel models with the patridge sights will generally outshoot the shorter, lighter barrels with dovetail sights.

Truth: All of them have the same internals, so they all have the same trigger quality out of the box. There's nothing really WRONG with their trigger, but they could be "more right." The Volquartsen sear & disconnector and a Clark or Tandemkross hammer bushing will bring you up to a VERY happy place with a Ruger Mark IV trigger, without spending an arm and a leg. They're serviceable without upgrade, but you'll drop less points by adding these parts.

Truth: The aesthetic options for the 22/45, 22/45 Lite, Standard, Hunter, Competition, & Tactical are all very different, and aesthetic preferences are always subjective. I love the Competition & Standard (tapered) models, my wife loves the Hunters and the 22/45 Lites.

Truth: There are 3 sight options for the Mark Series pistols, currently, some lending themselves better to precision shooting than others.

Truth: There's a pretty surprising spectrum in how the different models will balance in hand. The Lite and Standard/Taper models, especially the shorter 4 3/4" models, will obviously handle more lightly up front than the heavy barrel models. The Aluminum framed blued models" will be a bit lighter in the tail than the stainless models.

Differences: The Standards use a windage driftable rear sight, but are otherwise relatively poor sights. The Hunters use a fiber optic front sight, with a V-notch rear sight, offering a fast and highly visible, yet relatively imprecise sight picture. The Competition, 22/45, both Tacticals, and Target model all use a square notch blade in a fully adjustable rear sight and a patridge front blade, offering the greatest degree of precision in the fleet, although lacking the visibility and speed of the Hunter's "lollipop" sight picture.

Differences: The 22/45's claim to fame was the similarity to the 1911 frame, and even the opportunity to utilize 1911 grip panels (however modified now with the Mark IV evolution). It has a very different grip in hand than the Mark IV, and a different balance, especially in the Lite version. Ruger HAS, however, rectified the differences in the controls present for the Mark III versions, so now the bolt stop lever is the same for both models. I'm hard pressed to say they "handle like a 1911," since the safety is different, the balance very different, the bolt stop lever is different, bolt instead of slide, fixed instead of reciprocating sights, etc etc... But the grip shape is familiar to the 1911.

Differences: The Hunter is available with a semi-wrap around grip, and the Competition comes with a right handed thumbrest shingle (although it's still not as comfortable as the Mark II version). The rest of the Mark IV's are really the same profile shingles, and the 22/45's are all the same 1911 style. I shoot predominantly left handed, so I have to face buying new grips with every iteration of the Competition I buy. Some folks find the wrap around grip to be overly large (as the Mark series grips are already large).

Personally, I grew up on a Standard/Tapered for my field work, and slab sided Competitions for my precision work. I have Mark II, III, and now IV's in both of these versions. My wife has the Hunter in III and IV, a Lite in III, and has her eye on a new Lite IV. I have a Government/Target II and another in IV. All of them have their own little nuances.


That was ever so helpful, one last question about hunting. Would the hunter be the best choice or could I get away with the "cheaper" version of them? Could I do it with a target adjustable sights or a standard
 
Nothing about the Hunter is really optimized for hunting. Some folks might prefer the "lollipop" sight picture and a "cover hold" on target for hunting, but most folks tend to prefer a 6 o'clock hold, so even the sights aren't anything special. "Hunter" is nothing more than a marketing moniker, bestowed on their flagship model.

Any of the Ruger Mark IV series will be suitable for hunting. Longer barrels and better sights will offer greater precision, but if I'm blunt about it, if the standard sights were a problem, my hunting career would have looked very differently, carrying this old Mark II with nothing but driftable rear sights... But in reality, this old pistol has taken out literally thousands of coons in the last ~20yrs.

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Personally I love the look of that tapered barrel on the standard. Thinking hard about getting one in the 6” barrel, and I see the MKIV are drilled and tapped on the fixed sight models so I could put a scope on for squirrels if I feel the need.
 
Almost no one will be able to shoot anywhere near the accuracy inherent in any Ruger Mark Anything. That is, unless one does bench-rest shooting exclusively. They all are among the most-accurate semi's ever made. That's a designed-in feature, for which Ruger is justifiably proud of.
 
Nothing about the Hunter is really optimized for hunting. Some folks might prefer the "lollipop" sight picture and a "cover hold" on target for hunting, but most folks tend to prefer a 6 o'clock hold, so even the sights aren't anything special. "Hunter" is nothing more than a marketing moniker, bestowed on their flagship model.

Any of the Ruger Mark IV series will be suitable for hunting. Longer barrels and better sights will offer greater precision, but if I'm blunt about it, if the standard sights were a problem, my hunting career would have looked very differently, carrying this old Mark II with nothing but driftable rear sights... But in reality, this old pistol has taken out literally thousands of coons in the last ~20yrs.

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That's what answer I was looking for thank you.... what model would your mark ii be?
 
I have MK II guns in 5.5 inch, 6 7/8 inch and 10 inch. All have heavy barrels. If I were choosing one to walk about in the woods with it holstered, it would be a stainless one for sure and a flip of a coin on the barrel being 5.5 or 6 7/8.
 
Almost no one will be able to shoot anywhere near the accuracy inherent in any Ruger Mark Anything. That is, unless one does bench-rest shooting exclusively. They all are among the most-accurate semi's ever made. That's a designed-in feature, for which Ruger is justifiably proud of.
I agree that Ruger Mark's are capable of very good accuracy. However, this is very dependent upon ammo selection. You might have to go through several different types before finding the right one.
 
I'll have to call in a favor to look up the numeric model code, but the Mark II I pictured above is a KMK6. I'll do a little digging to see how many were made, I always assumed they were a high number item, but I've been told they were rather rare, with the KMK4 (4" barrel) and the Target version (fully adjustable sights) being grossly more common... But I've heard a lot of things about Ruger handguns over the years. Like any fixie, a guy has to know where it'll print, and anywhere outside of that zero range, hold under or over is required... Hasn't slowed me down, and she's put up a PILE of fur in her day...
 
I agree that Ruger Mark's are capable of very good accuracy. However, this is very dependent upon ammo selection. You might have to go through several different types before finding the right one.
In my experience, not really. I used mine to reach Distinguished Expert by the NRA, and I never really paid much attention to the ammo. Whatever was available by the brick.
 
I've owned a gaggle of Mark Series and Standard pistols over the years (consider it a Mark 0), never had any trouble finding ammo which shot well in any of them. Well enough for hunting, at least. Feeding when dry and brand new might need HV loads, but that's fairly rare in itself.
 
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