disable cross-bolt safety on Win. 94

[tiberius]

I'm setting up my 94AE .44RM Winchester up as a general purpose carbine and have decided to disable the cross bolt safety.

Anyone familiar with this weapon will realize that all the safety does is block the hammer and prevent it from striking the firing pin when the trigger is pulled. I consider this type of safety to be of no use and potentially dangerous in a life threatening situation.

I have considered the following options.

1. Simply remove the piece - This will leave ugle holes in the receiver.

2. Grind off the end which acts as the "apply safety" button. This would techically still allow the safety to be used, but since it would be flush with the receiver when the gun is ready to fire, it would not be inadvertantly activated.

3. Grind of the section of the pin which blocks the hammer from striking the firing pin so that the weapon operates properly no matter what position the safety is in. This is my currently preferred method.

4. Tack weld the safety in the fire positon. This is unsightly.

Any comments or ideas?

 

[Dennie Suman]

I bought the 9410 shotgun a while back. Shortly after I bought it I pushed on the "safety"button and it dis-assembled all by itself!
I still have the safety bar, but the little thingies that hold it in vanished into some basement crevass, or somewhere!
Still shoots like it did before. Gun seems a little lighter weight and a little more muzzle heavy now tho.
Would insert smilie, but don't know how.
Safety, what safety?

 

[Detritus]

most common, cheapest and easiest way to do what you want, is to go down to the Hardware store and get a 50-99 cent assortment of rubber O-rings of the approximate size you'd need to slip over the exposed end of the bolt (slipping the o-ring into the red-painted groove). this will keep the safety from being inadvertently engaged, AND cover up that bright red portion of the "fire" end of the bolt.

i never can remember if the following tidbit applies to Winchester made guns or to the Marlin guns. but one if not both have a small tension screw that can be tightened down and effectively used to disable the safety by holding it firmly inthe off position.


if this were a Marlin instead of a winchester i'd steer you toward a company that makes a filler plug that replaces the safety, but the winchester design has a few more "small parts" than the Marlin adn no one has designed a dropp in plug for it yet.

 

[larryw]

Detritus, would you point me to the site with the safety filler plug for the Marlin '94?

thanks
LW

 

[Jim K]

I suppose I am playing "nanny" but if you disable a safety device and an AD harms someone, you will almost certainly lose any suit filed against you and probably be charged with negligent homicide to boot. If you don't like it, don't engage it, but don't remove it.

Jim

 

[larryw]

So it only goes to follow if you have a gun with a safety that's disengaged and a ND happens, you will almost certainly lose any suit filed against you and probably be charged with negligent homicide to boot.

 

[WonderNine]

I suppose I am playing "nanny" but if you disable a safety device and an AD harms someone, you will almost certainly lose any suit filed against you and probably be charged with negligent homicide to boot.

What a bummer!

 

[dakotasin]

here's a little info on what's being asked about: http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Board=UBB47&Number=111802

 

[tiberius]

Guys, Thanks for the input. I haven't decided which direction to go yet, but I don't think that O-ring idea will work since there is hardly any indention in the Winchester safety.

Dakotasin - I'll check out that other site.

Jim - You must be a lawyer (or play one on TV), but you obviously have no idea how the safety works on this particular rifle.