Disappointed with a CZ75B today.

[CharlesT]

I went to the range today and shot a CZ75B.

I know these pistols are known for their good triggers. But, the one I tried felt really bad. Was it that it wasn't broken in or what?


To clarify. My Glock 34s reset is crisp and significant. This 75s was gritty and weak. I am so disappointed. Maybe I should try to find another example of a 75 to shoot?

 

[GWARGHOUL]

I dunno man, all CZ's I've seen and handled have been superb.

 

[tnek13]

Stick with your Glock! I agree on your appraisal of the CZs I always wanted one until I owned one. It was not a bad gun, it worked, it was accurate, I just did not like it.

 

[JROC]

My CZ 75's SA trigger pull is as good as my 1911's which is very good even being a Series 80. I do have a Pre-B though which is support to have a better trigger than a 75B as it doesn't have a firing pin block.

With that said I like my Glock better than my CZ 75 also, but it's not because it has a better trigger, or better ergonomics, or is a more natural pointer, or is more accurate, or is a smoother shooter because in general all these things my CZ does better than my Glock, but that's comparing a 10mm Glock to a 9mm CZ 75 also so take that for what it's worth to you.

I can pretty much guarantee that if you shoot any CZ 75 that's had Angus Hobdell and the guys at CZCustom do a trigger job on that you would pretty much love the trigger on the gun. Many say that CZ 75's need to be broken about 1,000 rounds or so to get the trigger feeling good, but my CZ 75 is an old Czech police issued surplus gun made in 1993 that was pretty well broken in when I got it.
http://czcustom.com/

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

I like my PCR, but its SA trigger pull isn't one of its better features. It has a considerable amount of "creep," during which the hammer can actually seen to be moving back, before it releases, a phenomenon known as "hammer camming." (This is actually a feature, not a fault; it is performing as designed.) I probably should have let Angus Hobdell work on it back when I lived 30 miles from him, but now that I am nearly 2,000 miles away the cost/benefit isn't there (the shipping would cost as much as the work). Its DA pull, however, is one of its best features.

 

[oldandslow]

charles, 10/2/11

I have owned three CZ's (2 75-compacts and a Rami) and shot another couple of full sized 75B's. The single action trigger on all of them was terrible, like dragging metal over rough gravel. Being thousands of miles from the nearest CZ smith and having the necessary gunsmithing fixtures enables me to take the creep out of the triggers. I've had a couple of EAA Witnesses which seem to use the same sear assembly and they also have a lot of creep in SA. So your perception of a poor SA trigger pull is quite valid. Other than that they are great guns- accurate, reliable and point well. Don't give up on them too soon.

best wishes- oldandslow

 

[Radagast]

The trigger return spring is one of the parts prone to failure on the CZ, the one you fired may have been on its way out.
FWIW I am a Glock shooter with over 20,000 rounds through my Glock 17, I qualified for the Australian IPSC team with it. MY BILs CZ SP01 Shadow has a much better trigger reset and break and if I was getting back into that game I would definitely go with the CZ. The year before the Shadow came out 8 out of the ten top Production shooters at our Nationals used a Glock. The year after it was 8 out of ten using a CZ.

TL,DR: It was probably the gun, try another one.

 

[sigarms228]

My son has a CZ SP01 and the trigger on it is not the greeatest and he has over 1000 rounds through it thoigh it has improved and it is a nice pistol.

Try a SIG P226, SIG P229, or Walther PPQ/P99 AS and I think you will be very happy with the trigger.

 

[harmon rabb]

CZ's are NOT known for their triggers. I believe you have confused them with 1911's CZ's are known for excellent ergonomics.

 

[JohnBT]

I've shot a lot of guns with bad triggers. CZs don't have bad triggers. CZs have above average DA/SA triggers.

 

[NMGonzo]

harmon is right.

However, I am spoiled by my springfield armory trigger but it took some dryfiring to get used to the cz75 trigger.

 

[railroader]

If your cz has a so so trigger David at Cajun Gun Works can help you out.. He can either recut your hammer or send you a drop in hammer sear kit. When you get done you will have an xlnt trigger pull. http://www.cajungunworks.com/ Mark

 

[m2steven]

My standard CZ 75b has a trigger pull that doesn't affect shot placement, but I'd describe it as a bit gritty and undefined. Not great, nothing like a 1911.

I have a CZ P01 duty and it has a fantastic trigger. Just wonderful. I know I could get a great trigger on my 75d with about 70 bucks worth of work but it doesn't bother me enough to do that at this moment.

 

[Pilot]

Both my 75B and PCR have stock triggers and are excellent. Makes shooting accurately very easy.

 

[armoredman]

I never noticed anything bad about any CZ triggers, with the notable exception of the CZ 100 - YOUCH! I have also handled Angus' crews' work, and the trigger jobs are incredible.
Radagast, I'd never heard of trigger return springs breaking on any CZs, that's a new one on me. Haven't had it happen in 10 CZ pistols, must be lucky so far.
To the OP, not every gun is for everyone. I can't stand Glock, for instance. So if you try again and still don't like it, hey, that true diversity, enough handguns around everyone can find the perfect one.

 

[MachIVshooter]

CZ's are NOT known for their triggers. I believe you have confused them with 1911's CZ's are known for excellent ergonomics.

This.

Although they can be cleaned up a lot with some polishing; My Baby Eagle breaks at 3 lbs 2 ounces and is super smooth.

The single-action CZ and Tanfoglio guns, OTOH, have superb triggers. CZ-based designs dominate IPSC shooting outside the US. Eric Grauffel is the IPSC world champion, he shoots a Tanfoglio Gold Custom:

 

[Dollar An Hour]

The CZ-83 usually has a nice trigger, but the CZ-75's are gritty with creep when new. They do improve with use though.

 

[easyg]

I once had a CZ 75B Single Action in .40S&W and the trigger was one of the main things that I didn't like about it.
It had a rather long reach for the trigger, and the trigger had quite a bit of travel, and a longish reset.

 

[sigarms228]

I stopped at my local gun store today. They a a very nice looking CZ75B used for sale for $399 that did not have the omega trigger. I looked at it and barrel outside wear indicated that it had been shot a fair amount. I tried a single dry fire and the SA was not so good so I handed it back to him. I probably would have bought it if the SA action was nice and crisp.

Instead I bough a new old stock SIG P229 in .357 SIG for $529 that had triple matching serial numbers which I rarely see on a P229. The trigger was outstanding on it.

 

[harmon rabb]

The CZ-83 usually has a nice trigger, but the CZ-75's are gritty with creep when new. They do improve with use though.

the cz-82/83 is a totally different design with the others and shares nothing with them, i believe. which might be something of a shame, because the 82/83 has a great trigger.

 

[dondavis3]

My CZ 75 is great



Even better is my CZ 85 Combat



Both have wonderful triggers and are reliable straight shooters.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

Older Pre-B CZs had pretty good triggers. Newer CZs don't all have good triggers OUT OF THE BOX, but they improve relatively quickly, with use. (Or with a trigger job.) I guess it's the CZ Corporate Lawyers trying to make sure that CZ doesn't make them too easy to fire.

If the 75B you shot was relatively new, then the trigger just hasn't "worn in," yet. 200-300 rounds from now (or a lot of dry-firing with a snap cap) will make a big difference.

Guns that have had action work or trigger jobs from the CZ Custom Shop approach the best 1911s in their crispness and general function.

(Later addition: I mentioned the CZ Custom Shop, but I'm also beginning to hear good things about the work that "schmeky" does, too. Along with the development of some very innovative parts, like an adjustable sear. His comments follow.)

 

[schmeky]

CharlesT,

Unfortunately CZ triggers can vary quite a bit. If your reset is weak the trigger bar needs a drop of lube on both sides where it rubs the frame.

To get the trigger smooth, crisp, and a joy to use, you'll have to what everyone else does with an out of the box pistol and either improve it yourself, install some affordable upgrades, or send it off.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

I once had a CZ 75B Single Action in .40S&W and the trigger was one of the main things that I didn't like about it.

It had a rather long reach for the trigger, and the trigger had quite a bit of travel, and a longish reset.

If that was your experience, you clearly did not have one with the factory two-way adjustable trigger. That trigger allows take-up to be adjusted out, and with a little work can be superb. Not all of them had that trigger from the factory. Nowadays, I think most do.

Shame you had that experience, as a properly adjusted and tuned 75B SA is a nice gun.


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[Ben86]

I bought my CZ75B with the Omega trigger system, so it may be different from the one you shot. The DA trigger is unremarkable. In fact I really don't like it to be honest. The single action trigger however is superb IMO. It's got a little, smooth take up with no stacking and a really light release. The trigger break isn't as discernible as I would like it, but from my experience it forces more of the fabled "surprise" shot that leads to better accuracy.

Glocks do have great triggers as well.