Disappointed with M&P 45 Trigger

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Haycreek

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My M&P 45 trigger has as a rough "takeup" and the trigger is heavy. The trigger does, however, a clean break. As soon as time permits, I plan to do a complete tuneup. Anyone else have simular experience? This M&P 45 was ordered with the thumb safety, and no lock or mag safety. I am satisfied with the M&P, in other ways, it will be a keeper.
 
I assume it is a new gun. The trigger on the M&P's improves greatly after 300 rounds or so. Even so, nothing wrong with a trigger job, especially since you have the thumb safety.
 
Shot my buddy's M&P 45 and liked it so much I bought a M&P 9C. Maybe you should have someone else shoot it and see what they think. Maybe you should also shoot someone elses M&P45 to see if your gun needs to be sent back to S&W. Word on the street is they have pretty good customer service. I wouldn't know as I have never needed them.
 
I have an M&P 45 and I also was less than pleased with the trigger. I consider myself a pretty good shot and so do other that shoot with me. I can usually pick up any handgun and within a few shots be shooting nice tight little groups. Long story short it took me a lot of rounds to get good with my M&P. She is very accurate but I find I really need to concentrate on my trigger pulls or else my shots will be thrown way off. I can not shoot it good at all in rapid fire, unlike my friends XD45, my G22,G27, 1911 loaded and Beretta 92. All of these other guns I can fire them just as quick as I can pull the trigger and keep them fairly tight center mass. The M&P is all over the place. I love the feel of this gun but it is the only one I have that I keep considering on getting rid of for something else.

The only reason why I hold on to it is that every once in a while I'm in the zone with it and the accuracy amazes me. To be honest I think the problem is the transitioning from the other guns to this one. If I only fired the M&P I think I would love it to death. I've never had a hard time transitioning from one firearm to another until I got this M&P. I'm not blaming the gun it is a great weapon and the problem is really the shooter, but like I said this gun just stumps me.
 
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Haycreek,

I understand what you're saying about the out-of-the-box M&P trigger. The reasons for the rough trigger are the bearing surface areas on the trigger linkage, the firing pin block, and to a lesser degree, the sear face. I did the Dan Burwell trigger job on mine (it made a HUGE difference) but it's not as easy to do as a Glock.

I found a stock Glock 5# striker fits the M&P perfectly, and when combined with the Burwell trigger job, can result in a really great trigger.

I sold mine since it would not reliably feed my #68 H&G 200 LSWC bullets; I keep thousands of these on hand since this is my standard 45 loading.

I eventually sold my M&P 45.
 
My M&P 45 also had a rather heavier and stiff trigger right out-of-the-box. When I checked it with my digital gauge I received some cycle averages running around 8.5-9+ lbs. That's still within what we were told was a normal tolerance range of +/- 2 lbs (the .45 has a 7.5lb trigge weight spec, I believe, instead of the 6.5lb spec of the 9/40/357 models). It figured that I'd get one on the heavier end of the range. :neener:

Anyway, after the first couple of range sessions (approx 200 rounds per session) I noticed the trigger was a lot smoother and 'felt' somewhat lighter. I didn't notice that it had improved at first because it hadn't been adversely affecting my accuracy from the beginning. I was very pleased and impressed with the inherent accuracy of my M&P 45. I was just focusing on becoming acquainted with the gun, using the basics of good grip, sight alignment/picture and an evenly delivered trigger press.

I no longer reload or use 200gr LSWC .45 loads so I was only interested in how my M&P 45 performed with standard Ball and some assorted JHP's. It fed 3 different types of duty-type JHP's and some small number of Ball loads with monotonous reliability.

I've used my M&P 45 with duty-type JHP's to make some groups as small as 4-5" at 50 yards shooting from a standing unsupported 2-hand position as well as a kneeling position. I suspect the gun is more accurate than that, or it might be in the hands of someone more skilled than myself. I'd imagine some experimentation with different loads might reveal the potential for some better practical accuracy at such long handgun ranges, too.

From the more practical perspective, I've been able to make some reasonably tightly overlapped, ragged hole groups at 15 yards as long as I do my part well enough.

I haven't bothered to check the trigger weight again because it's been doing so well for my needs and expectations.

I actually enjoy shooting my M&P 45 more than my several 1911's. ;)

FWIW, even when the 'new' trigger was still stiff and somewhat 'less than smooth' I was able to experience very good results when practicing with fairly rapid shot strings.

Now, I own, used and shoot a number of different pistol designs, so it's not like I exclusively limit myself to a particular design, make or model. They include single action, traditional double action and some of the various 'double action only' variants being marketed.

Now, my M&P40c does have what feels to be a lighter trigger, but I didn't bother to check it with a gauge since I was only interested in my ability to use it, and not the specific 'trigger weight'. That required checking it on the firing line, not at the bench using a gauge. ;)

But hey, I'm a long time traditional double action revolver shooter, so the 'weight' and 'reset' of most of pistol designs and actions aren't exactly something which keeps me awake at night.

Of course, this doesn't mean I wouldn't mind seeing what a Performance Center machined sear might be like if a M&P 45 Pro Series were released in a compact model. ;)
 
I have a new M&P 45 also. Just 250 rounds through it so far. I also have a 9 and 9c for about 1.5 years, and I can tell that the triggers do smooth out with use, the 9's sure did.

My trigger was "grainy". Some of that has started to go away already.

I will shot about 1000 rounds through it, before I decide whether or not get a trigger job.

I think it's unreasonable to get ANY new gun, and expect to shoot it as well as something you have had for a long time and shot well. It takes me time to get to know a new gun. I know I have to learn to shoot it well. I shoot my 9's better than the 45, but I have been shooting them longer. I didn't do poorly with the 45, they were 5 inch groups instead of 3 inch shooting Double taps. It will get better with practice.

Everything else, I really like about it.
 
One comment to the above,-- some handguns shoot good right out of the box, for example, the ugliest handgun in my safe-- a Styre M-A1 40 cal. and yes, it may improve ! :what: The trigger weight and break, reminds me of a good 1911.
 
Are you talking about dry firing it or shooting it? I've never liked the trigger pull of the M&Ps or Glocks when you dry fire them but the feel really changes when you shoot them. That being said the M&P is a Law Enforcement are self-defense pieces and you shouldn't expect a match trigger. If you sign up on M&P-pistol.com there is a ton on information on how to improve the trigger pull. Personally, both of my 9mm M&Ps came wtih really good triggers and only got better over time.
 
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