Jim Watson
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One guideline I heard from a comment on stick management, "Cut to the hard, thrust to the soft."
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One guideline I heard from a comment on stick management, "Cut to the hard, thrust to the soft."
lemaymiami
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Along with the various improvised weapons (as well as dedicated tools for striking) there's another item commonly found in buildings everywhere that makes a great improvised weapon - but most wouldn't think of it.... One of my trainers years ago made a point of demonstrating the various uses of an ordinary powder fire extinguisher in an emergency. At one end a it's a blunt metal instrument with lots of weight so that you can really get an opponent's attention. At the other end the discharge at close range is not only disabling - but also seriously diminishes your target's vision -while also marking him/her for later police action ("Yes sir, he's the one that looks like he was coated in yellow flour...." ).
You'd only want to use an extinguisher as a last resort since there are laws on the books about fire extinguishers that you wouldn't want to run afoul of (any fireman is welcome to detail them).
You'd only want to use an extinguisher as a last resort since there are laws on the books about fire extinguishers that you wouldn't want to run afoul of (any fireman is welcome to detail them).
splattergun
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rcmodel
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A recent soccer injury is all you gotta have.
Or, a slip in the shower doing whatever you were doing in the shower?
Happens to people of any age.
Just park in any stores parking lot and notice who all use the Handicap Parking spots by the front door!
Rc
Or, a slip in the shower doing whatever you were doing in the shower?
Happens to people of any age.
Just park in any stores parking lot and notice who all use the Handicap Parking spots by the front door!
Rc
Readyrod
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Yup football/soccer/work/fight/fall/climbing.... injury. Only flares up once in a while, have the cane just in case.
bikerdoc
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You do not have to justify crrying a cane to anyone.
Yesterday I spent the day volunteering at a charity event. Got paired with a 23 y/o muscular young man
He was seated at the station I was assigned to when I arrived, he stood up to shake my hand and had a cane.
Story is he has rods in both legs from an AK while serving in The sandbox.
Yesterday I spent the day volunteering at a charity event. Got paired with a 23 y/o muscular young man
He was seated at the station I was assigned to when I arrived, he stood up to shake my hand and had a cane.
Story is he has rods in both legs from an AK while serving in The sandbox.
Madcap_Magician
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I only carry a cane through airports, and my excuse is that I sometimes get vertigo after flying. No need for medical records on it, it's only sometimes when I'm flying, and then I just carry this cane in case I suddenly need something to lean on...
craftsman
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Glistam,
If you can make it up to the American Knife Thowers Alliance NE Regional competition this May in Berwyn, PA (just outside of Philly) - bring the Birang Silat book - I'd be happy to autograph it for you.
If you can make it up to the American Knife Thowers Alliance NE Regional competition this May in Berwyn, PA (just outside of Philly) - bring the Birang Silat book - I'd be happy to autograph it for you.
ArfinGreebly
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Like hso, I too have the unbreakable umbrella.
Solid little so-and-so.
Many years ago, living in Denmark, I rode a bike pretty much everywhere. I also had a handsome gentleman's umbrella. It took some practice but I learned how to ride a bike with an umbrella along for the ride. There are two or three common ways to do it. I learned more from watching little old ladies and older guys who had figured it out long since.
No, it's not terribly handy, but easy enough once you get the hang of it. Before too long I was doing my shopping, trips to the laundromat, stuff like that, and when the weather was iffy, I had the umbrella along too.
Readyrod
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I often use an umbrella in the rain with my shopping bike but I use a folding bike for work and the position isn't good for an umbrella. Also there is nowhere to put the umbrella on the folder when not using it. There is an umbrella holder on the shopping bike.
I'm carrying a juice bottle and my minimag for now. I'm looking at getting a 2D mag maybe later.
I'm carrying a juice bottle and my minimag for now. I'm looking at getting a 2D mag maybe later.
RetiredUSNChief
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Yeah...but trust me on this: when you're in a foreign country as a tourist, or even on some kind of business, something like this ain't gonna be looked on kindly unless you've a very solid reason for carrying it in the first place, like a chain and lock for a bicycle. A FUNCTIONAL chain and lock for a bicycle.
If it's not a common, every-day item that most people wouldn't think of as a weapon under normal circumstances, then carrying it isn't going to look good with the authorities at all.
As I stated before: "The absolute BEST thing you can do for yourself in any foreign country is ALWAYS have a buddy with you and be smart about where and when you go places."
Foreign countries aren't generally bastions of violence for tourists and businessmen. Local authorities do NOT want it to be that way because it's bad for the economy. And places where such violence does exist aren't places you should likely be at in the first place.
I carried my manrikigusari in Papua New Guinea for almost 5 years. It has steel weights, 2 openable chain links and 2 feet of #3 chain.
Never had a problem because when they are detached and scattered in your checked luggage they look harmless. Even transitting through Australia dozens of time I never had a problem.
Never had a problem because when they are detached and scattered in your checked luggage they look harmless. Even transitting through Australia dozens of time I never had a problem.
C.R.
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I used to keep a 6 Dcell Mag Light in my truck as a flashlight/baton makes a great light and nearly indistructable too
geologist,
A pair of padlocks and a length of 550 cord or a bike cable are a lot easier to explain if you had to "improvise" such a tool as opposed to trying to explain to the foreign authorities at the scene what your assembled martial arts weapon (banned in their country) was doing in your hands. As you pointed out as well, a manriki gusari (or any other flail weapon) takes a lot of training to be safe for the user. I barely avoided knocking myself out and having a nasty scalp wound learning to use one.
A pair of padlocks and a length of 550 cord or a bike cable are a lot easier to explain if you had to "improvise" such a tool as opposed to trying to explain to the foreign authorities at the scene what your assembled martial arts weapon (banned in their country) was doing in your hands. As you pointed out as well, a manriki gusari (or any other flail weapon) takes a lot of training to be safe for the user. I barely avoided knocking myself out and having a nasty scalp wound learning to use one.
I have lived in another Asian country with tough laws against weapons.
I can think of three improvised weapons: a U lock for your bike, a hand sized carabiner for your keys and a scarf, belt, or tie as a weapon. There is actually a Japanese martial art dedicated to capturing and tying someone up, but it is fairly straightforward for improvisation. Some time on youtube will give you some inspiration.
I can think of three improvised weapons: a U lock for your bike, a hand sized carabiner for your keys and a scarf, belt, or tie as a weapon. There is actually a Japanese martial art dedicated to capturing and tying someone up, but it is fairly straightforward for improvisation. Some time on youtube will give you some inspiration.
O/P rides a bike. When I ride I have a small tool bag tucked under my seat in a Blackburn bullet pack. Could hold a nice craftsman wrench. I also have a Kryptonite wire chain lock with the lock attached to it. It's a large combination lock. I carry a Fenix LD 22 or 20 flashlight as an impact weapon. I just saw video of our Navy service men being attacked in Turkey. There were 3 of them and they held their own and composure in a tough situation and when the opportunity came they ran out of there. I always tell my kids when all else is about to fail, Run!
Agreed but I was defending against machetes and fighting axes so it was steel chain or nothing.
I used Chain and Spike Fighting by Charles Grzowski as my reference but I agree that they are VERY easy to hurt yourself with when you are learning or if you are not paying attention.
I prefer not to use a lot of circular, twirling movements. I don't like the BGs to see the weapon (it's nature nor its range) before I break their bones with it. Straight line hazing attacks from concealment are the best first strikes with a weighted chain.
Ever play with a chain whip? Oy!
BTW, a bike chain or cable and locks would serve for securing bikes and bags/packs against casual theft.
BTW, a bike chain or cable and locks would serve for securing bikes and bags/packs against casual theft.
No can do as chain whips like manrikigusari and many other martial arts weapons are "Prohibited Weapons" here in Canada and are illegal to possess under any circumstances. Marikigusari when separated into their component parts are no longer "Prohibited" but chain whips unfortunately cannot be broken down so easily to make them legal to possess.
Deltaboy1984
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Get a nice deer antler tip key chain. I got mine from the LBJ Ranch National,Parks Service Book Store.
I made my weights from old bolts as the heaxagonal heads focus the energy better, and they were free. I arc welded half a link of No. 3 chain on the end of each bolt and voila, manrikigusari a la bubba!
Mounted on the ends of 2 feet of #3 chain, they hit frightfully hard and leave very deep dents in tropical hardwood. I have no doubt that they would be effective on a human temple or jawbone.
Mounted on the ends of 2 feet of #3 chain, they hit frightfully hard and leave very deep dents in tropical hardwood. I have no doubt that they would be effective on a human temple or jawbone.
Deltaboy1984
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Nice set up.I made my weights from old bolts as the heaxagonal heads focus the energy better, and they were free. I arc welded half a link of No. 3 chain on the end of each bolt and voila, manrikigusari a la bubba!
Mounted on the ends of 2 feet of #3 chain, they hit frightfully hard and leave very deep dents in tropical hardwood. I have no doubt that they would be effective on a human temple or jawbone.
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I carry a kubaton keychain, it's about 5" long and about a half in in diameter, knurled along it's length to provide a solid grip. Similar in size and shape to a sharpie hard plastic marker.
You can use it to apply leverage to pressure points for pain compliance, jab at the throat and/or eyes, up into the armpits and into the brachial plexus nerve grouping located just below the armpits on the ribcage. There are also pressure points on the inside of the thigh, groin and in the face on the jaw line and at the temple, at the back of the elbow and others.... all cause debilitating pain....
When I would teach a rape prevention / Escape course for women I would have them bring a sharpie marker, or big sharpie marker to the 8 hour class and we would work thru the Pressure point/escape phase section at 1/4 speed to learn the pain compliance portion to avoid injury.
A sharpie marker substituting for the kubaton, carried in the shirt or pants pocket would be innocent but could easily be used for close in defense as a tool to gain distance or put an attacker on the ground. The increased pain levels offered by the Kubaton (sharpie) are worth the time spent to learn it's use.
Talk about an innocent item on your person.
You can use it to apply leverage to pressure points for pain compliance, jab at the throat and/or eyes, up into the armpits and into the brachial plexus nerve grouping located just below the armpits on the ribcage. There are also pressure points on the inside of the thigh, groin and in the face on the jaw line and at the temple, at the back of the elbow and others.... all cause debilitating pain....
When I would teach a rape prevention / Escape course for women I would have them bring a sharpie marker, or big sharpie marker to the 8 hour class and we would work thru the Pressure point/escape phase section at 1/4 speed to learn the pain compliance portion to avoid injury.
A sharpie marker substituting for the kubaton, carried in the shirt or pants pocket would be innocent but could easily be used for close in defense as a tool to gain distance or put an attacker on the ground. The increased pain levels offered by the Kubaton (sharpie) are worth the time spent to learn it's use.
Talk about an innocent item on your person.
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