Diversified Machine customer? You've got mail.....

[N555]

No sir, again....not correct. Please reread what I wrote, then read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_identify_statutes . In Texas, the only time you must present your ID is when you are a motorist (as in a traffic stop). Absent being a motorist, here is NO REQUIREMENT IN TEXAS LAW to give any identifying information just because "authority" requests it.



I literally refuted, disproved, rebutted, debunked and knocked the bottom out of everything you said and provided citations to same.

Good job. Now go do it and tell us how it works out for you.

 

[dogtown tom]

Good job. Now go do it and tell us how it works out for you.

I know its a good job because I don't post nonsense.
Nothing I wrote alluded to me believing or advocating that one should not identify himself to law enforcement....that's clear from my post.
I posted facts that also clearly disproved your assertion that failing to identify is illegal and has been upheld several times by the Supreme Court.

I'm sure that someone advised Dick Heller to not fight the D.C. handgun ban. "Now go do it Dick and tell us how it works out for you". Its a good thing he did.

Standing up for ones own civil rights is well, OUR RIGHT. If your states laws don't require you to identify to an "authority" and does not meet the requirements set forth in the cases I referenced you are in the right. But being in the right doesn't immunize you from being hassled, handcuffed or even charged. The old saying "You might beat the rap, but you never beat the ride" applies. But as I pointed out, if the actions of the "authorities" is illegal and such hassle, detainment or charging occurs? You have some pretty good grounds for a lawsuit under both state and federal law.

 

[N555]

Another reason why you should have a lawer.
Because you could be minding your own business, win a government auction for several dozen empty cases and get way more than you bargained for.
They chose poorly. Called the atf and the atf wasted no time treating them like criminals, tried and failed to get them for anything thing else they could make stick.
First call should have been to their lawyer.

 

[dogtown tom]

Another reason why you should have a lawer.
Because you could be minding your own business, win a government auction for several dozen empty cases and get way more than you bargained for.
They chose poorly. Called the atf and the atf wasted no time treating them like criminals, tried and failed to get them for anything thing else they could make stick.
First call should have been to their lawyer.

Do you have a link verifying that the ATF treated them like criminals?
Or "tried and failed to get them for anything thing else they could make stick"?

I ask, because that video doesn't support your assertion in the least.
TTAG posted that ATF/FBI obtained a search warrant to search the remainder of their storage unit. That isn't treating the couple as criminals, its CYA in a criminal investigation. This is several serious violations of federal law. Not just violations of the Gun Control Act but the National Firearms Act.

The TTAG article https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/jackpot-texas-couple-find-m-16s-in-cases-sold-as-military-surplus/ makes no mention of ATF or the FBI filing charges, making an arrest or anything else and neither does the video where Houston TV interviews the couple who bought the cases.

Please tell us where ATF or the FBI "tried and failed to get them for anything...."

Unbelievable.

 

[N555]

Why did they need a search warrant to turn everything inside out if they weren't looking for anything else incriminating?
The government could have saved face showed up, thanked them for their cooperation, asked nicely to peak inside the other cases, took the guns and left.
The only reason they got a search warrant and the fbi involved is to make anything else they find unrelated stick.